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1. 05:45 AM - Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (WurlyBird)
2. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (Patrick Reilly)
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (Vic Baker)
4. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (Scott DeMeyer)
5. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (Scott DeMeyer)
6. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (ctmcdowell@comcast.net)
7. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (Lowell Fitt)
8. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
i am dragging up an old thread because I have a question about guns. While I believe
it is possible to do a good paint job with a cheap gun, I think that it
requires a lot more skill. So, me having no skills to speak of, I am willing
to pay a bit more to know the equipment will do its part. I always see Binks
show up on threads like this as being one of the premium guns. So are most all
the Binks guns a good choice or do you still need to go to their higher end?
I have found their BHV gravity feed HVLP for what I consider a reasonable price,
about $175, but I have no idea if this is the sort of thing that will do
the trick. Any opinions?
--------
James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323414#323414
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
James, I used the Harbor Freight HVLP gun that lists for $60 and was on sale
for $30. In addition there is a website that a guy told exactly how to set
it up. It is a great gun. I swear by it. I went back and bought another one.
I'm no professional. I paint infrequently. It always takes to the end of the
project before I am really doing a great job. Just make sure you have
adequate lighting and know how to use it.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:43 AM, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>wrote:
> james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
>
> i am dragging up an old thread because I have a question about guns. While
> I believe it is possible to do a good paint job with a cheap gun, I think
> that it requires a lot more skill. So, me having no skills to speak of, I
> am willing to pay a bit more to know the equipment will do its part. I
> always see Binks show up on threads like this as being one of the premium
> guns. So are most all the Binks guns a good choice or do you still need to
> go to their higher end? I have found their BHV gravity feed HVLP for what I
> consider a reasonable price, about $175, but I have no idea if this is the
> sort of thing that will do the trick. Any opinions?
>
> --------
> James
> Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> now she lies in wait
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323414#323414
>
>
--
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
James,
I think you'll like the Binks, as I recall mine was around $150 - year 2006
price.
Vic
Vic Baker
S7 912S Warp
Carson City, Nv
----- Original Message -----
From: "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:43 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
> <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
>
> i am dragging up an old thread because I have a question about guns.
> While I believe it is possible to do a good paint job with a cheap gun, I
> think that it requires a lot more skill. So, me having no skills to speak
> of, I am willing to pay a bit more to know the equipment will do its part.
> I always see Binks show up on threads like this as being one of the
> premium guns. So are most all the Binks guns a good choice or do you
> still need to go to their higher end? I have found their BHV gravity feed
> HVLP for what I consider a reasonable price, about $175, but I have no
> idea if this is the sort of thing that will do the trick. Any opinions?
>
> --------
> James
> Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> now she lies in wait
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323414#323414
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
I just finished painting my Piper Pacer wings. I purchased a Devilbis Finishline
3 HVLP gun from TCP Global for $129.99. I am very happy with the gun. It is
by far the best paint gun I have ever used. It does require a lot of CFM and I
ended up needing two compressors but the paint went on mirror smooth.
Scott
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil> wrote:
> From: WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 5:43 AM
> "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
>
> i am dragging up an old thread because I have a question
> about guns. While I believe it is possible to do a
> good paint job with a cheap gun, I think that it requires a
> lot more skill. So, me having no skills to speak of, I
> am willing to pay a bit more to know the equipment will do
> its part. I always see Binks show up on threads like
> this as being one of the premium guns. So are most all
> the Binks guns a good choice or do you still need to go to
> their higher end? I have found their BHV gravity feed
> HVLP for what I consider a reasonable price, about $175, but
> I have no idea if this is the sort of thing that will do the
> trick. Any opinions?
>
> --------
> James
> Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> now she lies in wait
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323414#323414
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
I also should add that I fall into the "no skill" category when it comes to painting
:).
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:09 AM
> Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
>
> I just finished painting my Piper Pacer wings. I purchased
> a Devilbis Finishline 3 HVLP gun from TCP Global for
> $129.99. I am very happy with the gun. It is by far the best
> paint gun I have ever used. It does require a lot of CFM and
> I ended up needing two compressors but the paint went on
> mirror smooth.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On Wed, 12/15/10, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> wrote:
>
> > From: WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun
> setup!
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 5:43 AM
> > "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> >
> > i am dragging up an old thread because I have a
> question
> > about guns. While I believe it is possible to do a
> > good paint job with a cheap gun, I think that it
> requires a
> > lot more skill. So, me having no skills to speak of,
> I
> > am willing to pay a bit more to know the equipment
> will do
> > its part. I always see Binks show up on threads
> like
> > this as being one of the premium guns. So are most
> all
> > the Binks guns a good choice or do you still need to
> go to
> > their higher end? I have found their BHV gravity
> feed
> > HVLP for what I consider a reasonable price, about
> $175, but
> > I have no idea if this is the sort of thing that will
> do the
> > trick. Any opinions?
> >
> > --------
> > James
> > Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> > 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> > now she lies in wait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323414#323414
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
If I may, I'd like to add a comment (tip) on paint spraying. First the visc
osity, temperature and humidity is critical for a good quality finish. I pa
inted many classic cars a few years ago. I would always make a test spray p
attern on a sheet of masking paper prior to starting my project. NOT NEWSPA
PER. Newspaper has loose fibers that blow into the paint and the color some
times will bleed through the paper. When I start, I would always start at t
he area least seen by the customer, like the right rear quarter panel, down
low. The most seen area or the area where people will judge your work is t
he nose, the leading edge and the door areas, then the tail feather section
. You can paint outdoors but it must be just after a rain shower, when the
sun is shining and no wind...just about never. Start spraying from the area
farthest away from your exhaust fan. The little over spray you see on unpa
inted panels will melt in. If you get blushing, the humidity is to high. If
you get dusting condition of the paint-you might need retarder.
Oh yea- keep a roll of 2" masking tape on your side while painting. When (n
ot if) you get a run, put the gun down right away. Take a piece of tape abo
ut 8 to 10 in. long. Make a loop in it like the sign of the omega. Sticky s
ide out. Slowly move the looped end towards the run. very carefully push th
e tape into the run then lift it off. The run will be removed. Let it set u
p a bit then give it a couple light passes to blend in the area. Nothing sh
outs out more of an amateur paint job like a run in the paint on the cowlin
g. -Tom
Luck is defined as when preparation meets opportunity .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott DeMeyer" <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:46:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
I also should add that I fall into the "no skill" category when it comes to
painting :).
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:09 AM
> Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
>
> I just finished painting my Piper Pacer wings. I purchased
> a Devilbis Finishline 3 HVLP gun from TCP Global for
> $129.99. I am very happy with the gun. It is by far the best
> paint gun I have ever used. It does require a lot of CFM and
> I ended up needing two compressors but the paint went on
> mirror smooth.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On Wed, 12/15/10, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> wrote:
>
> > From: WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun
> setup!
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 5:43 AM
> > "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> >
> > i am dragging up an old thread because I have a
> question
> > about guns. While I believe it is possible to do a
> > good paint job with a cheap gun, I think that it
> requires a
> > lot more skill. So, me having no skills to speak of,
> I
> > am willing to pay a bit more to know the equipment
> will do
> > its part. I always see Binks show up on threads
> like
> > this as being one of the premium guns. So are most
> all
> > the Binks guns a good choice or do you still need to
> go to
> > their higher end? I have found their BHV gravity
> feed
> > HVLP for what I consider a reasonable price, about
> $175, but
> > I have no idea if this is the sort of thing that will
> do the
> > trick. Any opinions?
> >
> > --------
> > James
> > Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> > 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> > now she lies in wait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323414#323414
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
> > Raiser. Click on
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> > -Matt
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
First, Let me admit that I am by no way an expert, but I have just
finished my Model IV Paint. I used the Harbor Freight HVLP gun at about
$30 on sale. I honestly don't think a million dollar gun would have
helped me a bit. If you were to check out my paint Job, the first thing
you would notice is that parts of it are near perfect and other parts
are pretty far the other way. They were all painted on different days
under different conditions in a home made PVC pipe and vinyl sheet paint
booth. I think Tom's advice is the real deal. No amount of money on a
gun will change the result like managing the conditions. I always
started early in the cool of the morning and sometimes finishing later
in a warmer day than I would have preferred. You can tell the
difference in the early paint and the later paint same gun and same guy-
early glass, later tendency toward orangepeel. In an ideal situation
and if I had the time, I would have done all my painting a section at a
time and at a time of day where the temps were ideal. I am in the
foothills of the Sierras so humidity is not much of an issue unless a
front is passing through, but with our usual rather primitive
conditions, I think the final result will be most affected by temps,
humidity and dust. The gun, in my humble opinion is not the big factor.
Then I always say that after a bug or two on the leading edge, no one
will see the the rest unless you are painting a show plane.
Another comment. If he paint is urethane, it can be polished. I
checked online for some tips and tried a piece of fabric under the
horizontal stab for a test site. It can be done, and once flying, I
will have ample time to do a square foot at a time to get it back to
where my vision had it before reality stepped in for me. They
recommended 1500 grit followed by 2000 then buffing compound followed by
a glazing compound. These are designed for machine application, but can
be hand applied with really good results.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
If I may, I'd like to add a comment (tip) on paint spraying. First the
viscosity, temperature and humidity is critical for a good quality
finish. I painted many classic cars a few years ago. I would always make
a test spray pattern on a sheet of masking paper prior to starting my
project. NOT NEWSPAPER. Newspaper has loose fibers that blow into the
paint and the color sometimes will bleed through the paper. When I
start, I would always start at the area least seen by the customer, like
the right rear quarter panel, down low. The most seen area or the area
where people will judge your work is the nose, the leading edge and the
door areas, then the tail feather section. You can paint outdoors but it
must be just after a rain shower, when the sun is shining and no
wind...just about never. Start spraying from the area farthest away from
your exhaust fan. The little over spray you see on unpainted panels will
melt in. If you get blushing, the humidity is to high. If you get
dusting condition of the paint-you might need retarder.
Oh yea- keep a roll of 2" masking tape on your side while painting.
When (not if) you get a run, put the gun down right away. Take a piece
of tape about 8 to 10 in. long. Make a loop in it like the sign of the
omega. Sticky side out. Slowly move the looped end towards the run. very
carefully push the tape into the run then lift it off. The run will be
removed. Let it set up a bit then give it a couple light passes to blend
in the area. Nothing shouts out more of an amateur paint job like a
run in the paint on the cowling. -Tom
Luck is defined as when preparation meets opportunity.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott DeMeyer" <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:46:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
<scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
I also should add that I fall into the "no skill" category when it
comes to painting :).
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup!
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:09 AM
> Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
>
> I just finished painting my Piper Pacer wings. I purchased
> a Devilbis Finishline 3 HVLP gun from TCP Global for
> $129.99. I am very happy with the gun. It is by far the best
> paint gun I have ever used. It does require a lot of CFM and
> I ended up needing two compressors but the paint went on
> mirror smooth.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On Wed, 12/15/10, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> wrote:
>
> > From: WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Info found on HVLP gun
> setup!
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 5:43 AM
> > "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
> >
> > i am dragging up an old thread because I have a
> question
> > about guns. While I believe it is possible to do a
> > good paint job with a cheap gun, I think that it
> requires a
> > lot more skill. So, me having no skills to speak of,
> I
> > am willing to pay a bit more to know the equipment
> will do
> > its part. I always see Binks show up on threads
> like
> > this as being one of the premium guns. So are most
> all
> > the Binks guns a good choice or do you still need to
> go to
> > their higher end? I have found their BHV gravity
> feed
> > HVLP for what I consider a reasonable price, about
> $175, but
> > I have no idea if this is the sort of thing that will
> do the
> > trick. Any opinions?
> >
> > --------
> > James
> > Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> > 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> > now she lies in wait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323414#323414
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lists This Month --
> > Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
> > Raiser. Click on
> > out more about
> > Gifts provided
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> > www.buildersbooks.com
> > www.homebuilthelp.com
> > -Matt
> > Dralle, List Admin.
> > Email Forum -
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> > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
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> >
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> >
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| Subject: | Re: Info found on HVLP gun setup! |
On 12/15/2010 10:58 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> The gun, in my humble opinion is not the big factor. Then I always
> say that after a bug or two on the leading edge, no one will see the
> the rest unless you are painting a show plane.
I've heard good things about the Harbor Freight gun, but I notice an
enormous difference between guns shooting urethane car and boat paint.
I've used a Campbell / Hausfield and a Sata Minijet and the mini
reliably sprays a consistent pattern of very finely atomized paint. I
can't say the same about the C/H. What I've read and noticed is that the
cheaper guns have a "sweet spot" of conditions and paint that they'll
often reliably shoot. You just have to find it and stick with it.
Guy Buchanan
Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs
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