---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/08/11: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:46 AM - Re: Gascolator (Lynn Matteson) 2. 08:20 AM - Re: Gascolator (Lowell Fitt) 3. 08:21 AM - Re: Collapsible tank (Tom Jones) 4. 08:34 AM - Low Fuel (Lowell Fitt) 5. 09:43 AM - Re: Collapsible tank (WurlyBird) 6. 11:38 AM - Re: Low Fuel (Lowell Fitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:06 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gascolator The (apparently) later model header tank has a provision in the bottom for a quick-drain. That is where I sump it to check for said crap, but rarely finding anything but clean 100LL. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Sensenich 62"x 55.5 Wood (winter) until the Prince prop arrives Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying...1075+ hrs (since 3-27-2006) On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Noel R.C. Loveys wrote: > One of the things Ive gotten out of this list is a real liking for > a header tank which can double as a gascolator... a great big place > for water and precipitate to sink out of the way and totally safe. > > > My header, in behind the panel feeds fron the top and fuel flows > out about an inch above the bottom but there is no way drain it as > a sump... I often wonder how much crap could be in that tank. > > > Noel ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:17 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gascolator Noel, Not to delay the first flight after the engine change, but the Rans Folks use plastic wing tanks and use a series of metal rings plates and gaskets (actually oval shaped) to provide leakproof ports for the fuel lines. If you could get to the bottom of your header tank easily, you could use the same idea for a quickdrain fitting. Then again, I envy your time frame as I have lots more than you have do to get back into the air. Instrument panel today. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gascolator > > The (apparently) later model header tank has a provision in the bottom > for a quick-drain. That is where I sump it to check for said crap, but > rarely finding anything but clean 100LL. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Sensenich 62"x 55.5 Wood (winter) until the Prince prop arrives > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying...1075+ hrs (since 3-27-2006) > > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Noel R.C. Loveys wrote: > >> One of the things Ive gotten out of this list is a real liking for a >> header tank which can double as a gascolator... a great big place for >> water and precipitate to sink out of the way and totally safe. >> >> >> >> My header, in behind the panel feeds fron the top and fuel flows out >> about an inch above the bottom but there is no way drain it as a sump... >> I often wonder how much crap could be in that tank. >> >> >> >> Noel > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:40 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Collapsible tank From: "Tom Jones" I never did figure out a way to properly...by the book...mix fuel without using a standard fuel container. I have seen a kitfox flyer pour the oil directly into the wing tank when refueling and read on the Kolb Matronics list that some of them do that. I always figured I would carry a plastic 5 gallon fuel jug in the baggage to mix in if I went on a long flight requiring refueling on the way. I are quite a few things I don't like about putting fuel in one of those collapsible water jugs. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326003#326003 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:33 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Kitfox-List: Low Fuel Dick, I finished a prototype of a new low fuel sender. It is an inch square and about an inch longer. If you have the space in your system, I would like to send it to you for your opinion. The vent channel is separate from the float chamber so there should be no influence on the float by movement of fuel in the vent line. It also uses a brass float which should pretty much last forever. There are always concerns, though, and the abominable ethanol might remain an issue as the guide wire is brass as is the float and any absorbed water in the fuel might corrode the brass and eventually prevent float movement. Who knows when the madness will end. Lowell ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:02 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Collapsible tank From: "WurlyBird" Why not get a 1 gallon or 1/2 gallon fuel jug to carry with you? You could put in a tank worth of oil, top it off with fuel and mix. Then add the now diluted oil/gas mix to the tank. This would be about a 10:1 mix if my finger tip math is right which should mix very readily with the gas in the tank. A 1 gallon fuel can would fit quite easily behind the seat and it is intended for the fuel. -------- James Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments, now she lies in wait Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326013#326013 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:54 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low Fuel Sorry, Brainfreeze this morning - should have gone direct. Lowell From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 8:27 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Low Fuel Dick, I finished a prototype of a new low fuel sender. It is an inch square and about an inch longer. If you have the space in your system, I would like to send it to you for your opinion. The vent channel is separate from the float chamber so there should be no influence on the float by movement of fuel in the vent line. It also uses a brass float which should pretty much last forever. There are always concerns, though, and the abominable ethanol might remain an issue as the guide wire is brass as is the float and any absorbed water in the fuel might corrode the brass and eventually prevent float movement. Who knows when the madness will end. 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