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     1. 01:42 AM - Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds (dave)
     2. 05:57 AM - Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds (Tom Jones)
     3. 09:39 AM - Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds (Fox5flyer)
     4. 09:46 AM - Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds (Fox5flyer)
     5. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds (Lynn Matteson)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds | 
      
      
      Power off stall  -- no flaps  video 
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcAUa5DjxuE
      
      I would not depend on ASI to give accurate stall speed. 
      I know by GPS mine is 37 to 38  mph.
      
      1/2 Flaps will cut it by about 1 - 2 mph, if that.
      
      This Kitfox has Vgs which makes the stall almost just a mush.
      
      Enjoy.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds | 
      
      
      Classic 4.  Gross weight 795 pounds stall full flaps = 36 MPH, Clean = 38 MPH.
      Gross weight 1050 stall full flaps 42 MPH, Clean = 46 MPH.
      
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      Tom Jones
      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds | 
      
      
      That is a very light IV/Soob so you must have been paying very close attention
      to weight during building.  Good job.  As for the stall speeds, I wouldn't worry
      too much about what the AS reads as they can be very inaccurate at lower speeds.
      Also, comparing it with the GPS is not very helpful as AS reads airspeed
      and GPS reads ground speed which means that they are rarely the same when flying.
      You will hear stall speeds all over the map with some way too low to believe
      and many others close to what yours is.  The thing to remember is to just
      know what your AS reads at stall and don't worry about how accurate it is. 
      The number is all that really matters.
      Good luck,
      Deke Morisse
      S5/NSI/500TT
      NE Michigan
      
      
      gentryll wrote:
      > I have a Model IV with a Subaru.  It is light for a Subaru at around 630 lbs.
      During initial testing I am getting power off and up to 2000 rpm, stall speeds
      of around 50 mph, and  with flaps around 45. I checked airspeed indicator against
      GPS and speeds are good. I was expecting a lot less.  I have about 38 lbs.
      on the tailwheel.  Is this normal or have I done something wrong.  I can still
      land and take off very short.  It just looks bad, when I can fly lower than
      my indicated stall speed.
      
      
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      Deke Morisse
      Kitfox S5 TD
      NSI/CAP
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds | 
      
      
      
      gentryll wrote:
      > 
      > gentryll wrote:
      > > I have a Model IV with a Subaru.  It is light for a Subaru at around 630 lbs.
      During initial testing I am getting power off and up to 2000 rpm, stall speeds
      of around 50 mph, and  with flaps around 45. I checked airspeed indicator
      against GPS and speeds are good. I was expecting a lot less.  I have about 38
      lbs. on the tailwheel.  Is this normal or have I done something wrong.  I can
      still land and take off very short.  It just looks bad, when I can fly lower than
      my indicated stall speed.
      > 
      > 
      > Thanks guys, that makes me feel better already.  The GPS corroborates my AIS
      so the speed is accurate.  I saw the numbers in the operating manual for a 582
      and a 912 and noticed mine were much higher , and that made me worry.  Do you
      guys try to three point with power all the way off or keep it up a bit to keep
      some air moving across the elevators.  With the NSI gearbox at I think 2.27/1
      ratio,  very little air from the prop is moving across the elevators at idle.
      > Larry Gentry
      > Kitfox IV
      > Crawford, ms.
      
      
      Do you have your battery in the rear above the tailwheel?  The Soob is heavy and
      unless you added some sort of ballast it is pretty much necessary to put the
      battery there to keep the CG far enough back to make a decent tail wheel landing.
      Deke Morisse
      S5/NSI Soob /500TT
      NE Michigan
      Big snow on the way
      
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      Deke Morisse
      Kitfox S5 TD
      NSI/CAP
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox IV Stall Speeds | 
      
      
      That's so good I would suspect the scales....and I'm only half  
      kidding. This is based on my Jabiru-powered IV weighing in at  
      650....with calibrated aircraft scales.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062
      Sensenich 62"x 55.5 Wood (winter) until the Prince prop arrives
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      Rotec TBI-40 injection
      Status: flying...1081 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
      
      
      On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Av8r3400 wrote:
      
      >
      
          (snip)
      
      > But, 630# with a Subaru is just this side of a miracle!  That's  
      > great!  You did good!
      >
      > --------
      > Thanks,
      > Av8r3400
      >
      > Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO
      > Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp
      >
      >
      
      
 
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