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     1. 03:46 AM - Re: Looking for a story... (Dave)
     2. 05:44 AM - Re: Looking for a story... (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
     3. 05:55 AM - club planes (Malcolm Brubaker)
     4. 06:24 AM - Re: Looking for a story... (Dave)
     5. 06:50 AM - Re: Looking for a story... (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
     6. 07:31 PM - Re: Classic IV Weight and balance Sheet (FoxDB)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Looking for a story... | 
      
      
      
      Thanks to all, I have found the posting I was looking for thanks to another
      list member. 
      
      
      Dave G. 
      
      KF IV 1050 / 582 / Can
      
      
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| Subject:  | Looking for a story... | 
      
      
      Well now that you have my quiosity arroused=2C I would like to read it also
      ......  Take care=2C  Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV=2C Kitfox 4   Mn
      Do not archive
      
      > From: occom@ns.sympatico.ca
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for a story...
      > Date: Sun=2C 6 Feb 2011 07:44:25 -0400
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Thanks to all=2C I have found the posting I was looking for thanks to ano
      ther
      > list member. 
      > 
      > 
      > Dave G. 
      > 
      > KF IV 1050 / 582 / Can
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      We had an interesting- discussion on linkedin this-weekend.-All about
      -flight =0Ainstruction and the idea of turning an experimental into a clu
      b plane so an =0Ainstructor could legally-use it to-teach-the owners
      - to fly.-- This theory is =0Aviable and there is-FAA approval to d
      o this.- =0A=0AWhat-I think would really jump start the process is a pr
      e-developed general =0Aformat.--One that would be easy for-people to 
      follow- in developing their =0Aown-club and fractional ownership;--
      not much different than the downloads a =0Aperson can buy to write their ow
      n will or start a non profit 401c3 corporation. =0AThese always contain sev
      eral disclaimers and liability waivers just like the =0Aones we used in the
       old days to teach ultralight flying.- =0A=0AThis would help the ultralig
      ht pilot and sport pilot want-to-be, as well as the =0Ainstructor. =0A=0ATh
      e idea of teaching someone to fly in a $14,000 plane with a 582 is not that
       =0Afar fetched. We all know people that-have.- It seemes like a better
       option than =0Athe $60,000 to $100,000 planes everyone thinks they current
      ly need .-When =0Aa-student-becomes a licensed pilot-they can trans
      ition up.- =0A=0AWhat this sport needs now is for people to stop focusing
       on the problem and =0Adevelope a solution.- The ultralight trainer was s
      o successful that it was =0Aturned into a sport pilot plane; and that took 
      20 years.----=0A-Malcolm Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport=0APilot Repai
      r =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0A(989)513-3022 =0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Looking for a story... | 
      
      
      
      No problem, the original post was shorter than I recalled, originally posted
      by Leonard Perry on this list. It was in a discussion about duct tape. 
      
      Here is the posted story...
      
      yep... he had gone fishing and did not wash the plane out real good.... 
      
      Quick story.. 
      
      A buddy had a cabin out on Silver Salmon creek. He flew his cub out for the
      summer to commercial fish there. He was having trouble with bears loving on
      his plane and bending them up a bit so he called fish and game to come out.
      He told them the next time he sees the bear he is going to shoot it. Fish
      and game frown on this and give him a case of Roman Candles and told him to
      shoot the bear with the roman candle and he wont have any more bear
      problems. If you don't know what a roman candle is, it is a firework that
      shoots out flaming colored balls about 60' or so.. if you do know what a
      roman candle is, then you know that the fuse is on the opposite end of what
      you would expect... At any rate, my buddy get awoken about 4:00 in the
      morning to the sound of a bear outside huffing around. he jumps out of bed
      in his underwear and grabs a roman candle, eases open the cabin door, takes
      careful aim and lights the fuse and waits... it takes a few seconds for this
      to start going off so he is "tracking" the bear. The first shot goes off and
      realises that it is shooting flaming balls out the wrong end and he just
      launched on insdide the cabin.. in his haste to trun it around he proceeds
      to launch 2 more into the cabin before it gets pointed out the door.. now he
      is not so carefully aiming at the bear and fires a round into his ceconite
      and dope covered supercub... to his horror, the plane goes poof and is now a
      raging inferno. He freaks out and start running out to the plane to see if
      he can put the fire out.. no dice.. it is just burning too hot at this
      point. About this time, he remembers that he had fired off a few rounds
      inside his log cabin... yepp, he truns around in about pisses himself when
      he realizes his cabin and his plane are now fully engulfed. So by now, it is
      close to 4:30 AM, he has nothing but his underwear on and he gets to take a
      1 mile walk of shame down to the next cabin to get help... Needless to say,
      once he was fully clothed, he borrowed the neighbors cub, loaded up the
      remaining case of roman candles and flew straight the fish and game
      headquarters where he just darn near inserted the proper end in the now very
      scared biologists butt and lit the fuse inside the building... 
      
      They no longer hand out roman candles as bear deterrent's, and Kenny went on
      a one man crusade to rid the world of bears lol.... to have him tell the
      story over a few beers is about the funniest thing I have ever heard, and I
      can, in no way do justice to the way it should be told..
      
      _________________
      DO NOT ARCHIVE 
      Leonard Perry aka SNAKE 
      Soldotna AK 
      Avid "C" / Mk IV 
      582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild) 
      IVO IFA 
      
      ________________________________
      
      	From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy
      Chuk
      	Sent: February-06-11 9:42 AM
      	To: kitfox list
      	Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for a story...
      	
      	
      	> Well now that you have my quiosity arroused, I would like to read
      it also......  Take care,  Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV, Kitfox 4   Mn
      	> Do not archive
      	
      
      
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| Subject:  | Looking for a story... | 
      
      
      Thanks=2C Dave=2C  I remembered the story after I began to read it.  Leni s
      trikes again!!!  :)  LOL  Take care=2C  Jim Chuk
      Do not archive
      
      > From: occom@ns.sympatico.ca
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for a story...
      > Date: Sun=2C 6 Feb 2011 10:14:03 -0400
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > No problem=2C the original post was shorter than I recalled=2C originally
       posted
      > by Leonard Perry on this list. It was in a discussion about duct tape. 
      > 
      > Here is the posted story...
      > 
      > yep... he had gone fishing and did not wash the plane out real good.... 
      > 
      > Quick story.. 
      > 
      > A buddy had a cabin out on Silver Salmon creek. He flew his cub out for t
      he
      > summer to commercial fish there. He was having trouble with bears loving 
      on
      > his plane and bending them up a bit so he called fish and game to come ou
      t.
      > He told them the next time he sees the bear he is going to shoot it. Fish
      > and game frown on this and give him a case of Roman Candles and told him 
      to
      > shoot the bear with the roman candle and he wont have any more bear
      > problems. If you don't know what a roman candle is=2C it is a firework th
      at
      > shoots out flaming colored balls about 60' or so.. if you do know what a
      > roman candle is=2C then you know that the fuse is on the opposite end of 
      what
      > you would expect... At any rate=2C my buddy get awoken about 4:00 in the
      > morning to the sound of a bear outside huffing around. he jumps out of be
      d
      > in his underwear and grabs a roman candle=2C eases open the cabin door=2C
       takes
      > careful aim and lights the fuse and waits... it takes a few seconds for t
      his
      > to start going off so he is "tracking" the bear. The first shot goes off 
      and
      > realises that it is shooting flaming balls out the wrong end and he just
      > launched on insdide the cabin.. in his haste to trun it around he proceed
      s
      > to launch 2 more into the cabin before it gets pointed out the door.. now
       he
      > is not so carefully aiming at the bear and fires a round into his ceconit
      e
      > and dope covered supercub... to his horror=2C the plane goes poof and is 
      now a
      > raging inferno. He freaks out and start running out to the plane to see i
      f
      > he can put the fire out.. no dice.. it is just burning too hot at this
      > point. About this time=2C he remembers that he had fired off a few rounds
      > inside his log cabin... yepp=2C he truns around in about pisses himself w
      hen
      > he realizes his cabin and his plane are now fully engulfed. So by now=2C 
      it is
      > close to 4:30 AM=2C he has nothing but his underwear on and he gets to ta
      ke a
      > 1 mile walk of shame down to the next cabin to get help... Needless to sa
      y=2C
      > once he was fully clothed=2C he borrowed the neighbors cub=2C loaded up t
      he
      > remaining case of roman candles and flew straight the fish and game
      > headquarters where he just darn near inserted the proper end in the now v
      ery
      > scared biologists butt and lit the fuse inside the building... 
      > 
      > They no longer hand out roman candles as bear deterrent's=2C and Kenny we
      nt on
      > a one man crusade to rid the world of bears lol.... to have him tell the
      > story over a few beers is about the funniest thing I have ever heard=2C a
      nd I
      > can=2C in no way do justice to the way it should be told..
      > 
      > _________________
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE 
      > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE 
      > Soldotna AK 
      > Avid "C" / Mk IV 
      > 582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild) 
      > IVO IFA 
      > 
      > ________________________________
      > 
      > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy
      > Chuk
      > Sent: February-06-11 9:42 AM
      > To: kitfox list
      > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for a story...
      > 
      > 
      > > Well now that you have my quiosity arroused=2C I would like to read
      > it also...... Take care=2C Jim Chuk Avid MK IV=2C Kitfox 4 Mn
      > > Do not archive
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Classic IV Weight and balance Sheet | 
      
      
      Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the position of the mains is about 2.25"
      aft of the fwd spar leading edge. This would make the arm a positive and the
      first calc would be correct. The error only seems to be the (-tare) shown in the
      item block.
      
      Dave
      Model 1
      
      --------
      Dave Kitfox Mod 1 582 since 95
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329913#329913
      
      
 
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