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1. 05:09 AM - Re: club plane ELSAs (WurlyBird)
2. 08:37 AM - Avgas/mogas survey (Pete Christensen)
3. 02:27 PM - Re: club plane ELSAs (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky)
4. 03:06 PM - Re: club plane ELSAs (Malcolm Brubaker)
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| Subject: | Re: club plane ELSAs |
I actually just wrote up a little paper on the subject of starting a flying club
to disseminate to guys I work with. It is actually quite remarkable how many
people are in professional aviation that have no idea about aviation. A lot
of guys I work with want to start working on their PPL when we get home but few
feel it is affordable. Bear in mind I have never been a part of a flying club,
so this was based on personal experience in GA and Glider communities and
some assumptions. The model I drew up revolved around 5 people, an LLC, and
a Piper Cub, my understanding is these are getting eaten up by the SP world you
just have to operate it appropriately. With a $10,000 buy in and guesstimated
$100/mo dues it would be feasible for guys to "rent" the plane for very little.
If you have an instructor in the group or even just a fellow who would like
to teach to the group at a reasonable rate it is possible to get a PPL for
about $2000 with no prior experience (based on minimums). After that you still
have the Cub at your disposal which can be operated for what will seem like
pennies compared to renting. I wouldn't mind anybody who wants to look at it
giving me feedback. There are guys reading it that are starting to think so
I may need to help them set it up when the time comes and if I am drastically
missing some point I would like to know. Let me know if you want me to send it
to you.
Referencing the communal aspect of flying. GA NEEDS IT BAD! I learned to fly
gliders so flying with a pack of guys all day, helping put away all the planes
and then sitting around telling lies afterward was all part of it. That aspect
makes flying so much more enjoyable and I plan on hanging fliers at the nearby
FBOs when I get home to try and put together a group of pilots that want to
fly together. Just like a motorcycle club, but slower and with a better view.
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331203#331203
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| Subject: | Avgas/mogas survey |
There is a great survey about avgas/mogas. Go here if interested. It's
worth a couple minutes.
http://www.questionpro.com/akira/TakeSurvey?id 34975
Pete
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| Subject: | club plane ELSAs |
I received my tail wheel instruction / endorsement in a Taylorcraft, fun
plane, was not licensed as a LSA though.
Lloyd
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: club plane ELSAs
On 2/15/2011 10:16 AM, Zimmermans wrote:
When I went to Light Sport I sold my Cessna & bought a 7AC Champ. It is a
legal LS plane plus it is an antique. They are there for $25,000 on up. We
have several in this area that are club owned. I will never live long enough
to see a new LS that I consider affordable. My 2 cents worth.
Good idea Jim. SportAviation had a recent article on a bunch of cheap
certificated LSAs: Chiefs, Champs, Luscombs, Ercoupes, Cessna 120/140, PA
15/17, Taylorcraft BC-12. All these were claimed to be below $40k and many
were below $30k. Don't know if they'd be insurable for flight instruction,
though.
Guy Buchanan
Scoutmaster - Troop 680
760.809.6145
scoutmaster@troop680.org
www.troop680.org
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| Subject: | Re: club plane ELSAs |
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