---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/30/11: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters (WurlyBird) 2. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters (Guy Buchanan) 3. 10:30 AM - Wood Fairings (rawheels) 4. 02:40 PM - need Rotax 582 help. (Dave) 5. 04:54 PM - Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters (WurlyBird) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:34 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters From: "WurlyBird" Guy, I am experiencing what you are talking about with the pooling and thinning but I think with sanding and thin layers it will work out. This is really more an experiment then anything. As for what parts I am trying to figure that out myself. A new engine (HKS) means a new instrument panel and that is going to be carbon fiber, there is just no way around that. I feel that if there is one huge chunk of carbon right there in the middle there should also be bits of it here and there for aesthetics. I think that fairing will actually look better in a red kevlar/black carbon weave since my plane has a big ole red stripe on it. I also think that it represents me pretty well to take something as low tech as the Fox and dress it up a little with some ridiculously high tech materials that ultimately fill no function. Any suggestions on non structural parts that would look good in carbon or carbon/kevlar would be appreciated. [Question] Question for the McBeans: Do you have any issues with me pulling a mold from one of the fairings I purchased from you and reproducing the part in carbon? The end result will be me having only one pair of fairings and I will destroy the mold. It is largely for practice with composites and I have no intention of having any more parts then I purchased from you, multiplying, modifying, or distributing these parts. It's just for me to play. :) -------- James Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments, now she lies in wait Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335489#335489 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:20 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters On 3/30/2011 4:13 AM, WurlyBird wrote: > A new engine (HKS) means a new instrument panel and that is going to be carbon fiber, there is just no way around that. I feel that if there is one huge chunk of carbon right there in the middle there should also be bits of it here and there for aesthetics. I think that fairing will actually look better in a red kevlar/black carbon weave since my plane has a big ole red stripe on it. I also think that it represents me pretty well to take something as low tech as the Fox and dress it up a little with some ridiculously high tech materials that ultimately fill no function. Any suggestions on non structural parts that would look good in carbon or carbon/kevlar would be appreciated. > I have an instrument panel done in carbon, as well as a glare shield and seat pan. The instrument panel was made by gluing 3 1" pieces of MDF together flatwise and then routing out the instrument panel's shape. This was then glassed and faired into a quite passable mold. The glare shield was made by carving styrofoam into the approximate shape to match a couple of profiles, (one of which was the instrument panel,) and then covering with carbon and filling and final shaping to make a nice female mold and then pulling a carbon part. The nice thing is by coating it with flat clear coat it made a really cool looking and functional glare shield. The only problem with it is you have to post cure the tool to about 140F, then re-fair it a couple of times, then cure the part at about 140F, then let it sit in the sun out of the wind for a couple of days so that it will withstand the intense heat generated while sitting in the sun under the canopy. It gets bloody hot. The seat was done simply by pulling a glass female from the original seat and then making a carbon one. Still have all the molds. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:24 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Wood Fairings From: "rawheels" WurleyBird's recent post on the PVC wing struts has got me looking into finally streamlining the bush gear that I installed a while ago. Is anyone cutting the wooden streamline strips, or happen to have some extra left over from their project by chance? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335508#335508 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:19 PM PST US From: "Dave " Subject: Kitfox-List: need Rotax 582 help. I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting oil. They don't seem to be loose but oil seems to escape and it tends to be messy. Has anyone else had this issue and dealt with it successfully? The manifold is currently held by two bolts per cylinder but I can do three plus a stud/nut is it will help. Dave G. KF IV/ 1050/ 582/ warp ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:55 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters From: "WurlyBird" That sounds like a lot of fun projects Guy. Do you have any pictures of the molds and end products? I would love to see them. How many layers did you need to make the instrument panel rigid enough? Did you save any weight on the seat or was it primarily for the cool points? -------- James Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments, now she lies in wait Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335530#335530 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.