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1. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: Gascolator (Noel Loveys)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: Gascolator (Noel Loveys)
3. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: Gascolator (Noel Loveys)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Gascolator (Noel Loveys)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Gascolator (Tom Jones)
6. 08:14 AM - Re: Wood Fairings (rawheels)
7. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Wood Fairings (Patrick Reilly)
8. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: Wood Fairings (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky)
9. 02:35 PM - Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters (WurlyBird)
10. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters (Patrick Reilly)
11. 03:40 PM - Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters (WurlyBird)
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Lynn:
37deg allows more sealing surface for the same outside diameter flare. As
you know it is easy to stretch metal but putting it back is like adding an
inch tot he 2x4 you just cut too short, next to impossible. If you put a 45
deg flare on a 37 deg fitting the flare will have to crumple a bit to seat.
The crumpling will cause it to leak under low pressure. That was one of the
things demonstrated to us in AME school. (AME = Aircraft Maintenance
Engineer)
Trying to put a 37 degree flare on a 45 degree fitting is almost as bad as
the seat again is reduced inside the fitting.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: April 15, 2011 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
Has some rebel out there tried to use a 45 flare on an
*experimental* aircraft?.....hint: notice the word experimental. I
realize that if you have an "real" aircraft part with a 37 flare on
it, you have to match it, but otherwise what is sacred about 37?
(other than selling us a special tool)
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip)
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm)
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On Apr 15, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> While it may be next to impossible to borrow one of these tools if
> you bring
> the pieces to an FBO they will probably do the flares for you for a
> reasonable price... maybe even free.
>
> Noel
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Don=92t feel too bad Lowell... I had to look it up too.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: April 15, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
Lynn tripped me up when I mentioned 45=B0 AN hardware in an earlier
post.
What got me going on that was a bit of web research on the correct angle
as
I had forgotten. The reason I mention it is that in my searching, I
found
that there are 45=B0 AN flared fittings. Don't know how common or where
to
get them but the article was about knowing what you have. I simply took
the
50/50 guess as to which flare angle is ours and lost again. There is an
Indian casino close by, now everyone should know why I have never been
there
- enough drain on the bank account already finishing up another Model
IV.
Lowell
From: Guy Buchanan <mailto:gebuchanan@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
On 4/15/2011 10:35 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
Has some rebel out there tried to use a 45=B0 flare on an *experimental*
aircraft?.....hint: notice the word experimental. I realize that if you
have an "real" aircraft part with a 37=B0 flare on it, you have to match
it,
but otherwise what is sacred about 37=B0? (other than selling us a
special
tool)
Lynn,
What is sacred about 37 degrees is matching AN hardware, nothing
else.
45 degrees for plumbing hardware, 37 for AN. What happens if you mix is
mostly that they leak. What happens if you decide to honk on it and form
fit
the flare depends on the tubing you're using. If T6 then you'll probably
just bust up the seats and threads. If T0, then you'll probably modify
the
flare to fit. Nothing sacred about AN hardware except that it's a good
bit
lighter than brass, ;-) is stronger than plastic, and looks cool.
(Most
important.)
Guy Buchanan
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Apparently some racing cars also use the 37 degree flare.
I guess they spend money too.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
Sent: April 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
Thats easy 37 is aircraft specific so they can charge you more it.
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
I'm gonna take a WAG here and that is that the 37 for aircraft is
because that is a less dramatic flare than a 45, therefore less apt
to split the harder grades of metals being flared. Anybody know the
history of the 37 versus 45? Somebody must have come up with a pretty
good reason to make a change, eh?
And, Guy, I would not suggest mixing the two in any one joint, but
I'd be rebel enough to use both angles of flares at different
locations on the same experimental airplane....clearly marked, of
course.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip)
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm)
Status: flying...1096 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
On Apr 15, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> Lynn tripped me up when I mentioned 45 AN hardware in an earlier
> post. What got me going on that was a bit of web research on the
> correct angle as I had forgotten. The reason I mention it is that
> in my searching, I found that there are 45 AN flared fittings.
> Don't know how common or where to get them but the article was
> about knowing what you have. I simply took the 50/50 guess as to
> which flare angle is ours and lost again. There is an Indian
> casino close by, now everyone should know why I have never been
> there - enough drain on the bank account already finishing up
> another Model IV.
>
> Lowell
>
> From: Guy Buchanan
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:57 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
>
> On 4/15/2011 10:35 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>> Has some rebel out there tried to use a 45 flare on an
>> *experimental* aircraft?.....hint: notice the word experimental.
>> I realize that if you have an "real" aircraft part with a 37
>> flare on it, you have to match it, but otherwise what is sacred
>> about 37? (other than selling us a special tool)
>
> Lynn,
> What is sacred about 37 degrees is matching AN hardware,
> nothing else. 45 degrees for plumbing hardware, 37 for AN. What
> happens if you mix is mostly that they leak. What happens if you
> decide to honk on it and form fit the flare depends on the tubing
> you're using. If T6 then you'll probably just bust up the seats and
> threads. If T0, then you'll probably modify the flare to fit.
> Nothing sacred about AN hardware except that it's a good bit
> lighter than brass, ;-) is stronger than plastic, and looks
> cool. (Most important.)
>
> Guy Buchanan
>
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We used to do things like the flare on a regular basis... The work at the
FBO (in Canada AMO) was all contract work and billing out a flare would have
been phohibitive. We did certainly charge for anything we had to sign on
though and it never ceased to amaze me that a fellow would think nothing of
spending $1000.00 on an old truck but balk at a $500 bill on his $250,000
plane.... go figure.
Commercial contracts were always better than private. Commercial operators
want their planes to be safe... That doesn't mean they want to throw money
at the plane but they relaize flying is expensive and they past the cost on
to their customers.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob noffs
Sent: April 15, 2011 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
at the field where i hangar the fbo charges $45/hr. he says that he can't
even often do that or he will not get repeat business and he is very
good.the shops around me charge $90 for snowmobile work and $100/hr for
outboards. i can't ever imagine, under any circumstances asking the fbo to
perform his profession for me without pay. this is what he does to keep the
lights on at home, i just do it for fun.
bob noffs
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote:
While it may be next to impossible to borrow one of these tools if you bring
the pieces to an FBO they will probably do the flares for you for a
reasonable price... maybe even free.
Noel
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Sent: April 14, 2011 11:47 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gascolator
<james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Now back to the 37* flare of aircraft tubing. How do you guys make this
flare without buying a $500 tool? Even at just under $100 the cheapest tool
is not worth it to make the 4 flares my aircraft needs.
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Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
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Here's a link to "Hints for Homebuilders" short video on using the high dollar
37.5 flare tool. You can see why it is expensive. This is the tool the local
FBO mechanic let me use in his shop and showed me how to use it.
http://bcove.me/1y8pfd94
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Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Wood Fairings |
Just wanted to give a quick user report.
Airdale does carry the wood streamlined strips @ $2/ft. Brett was very easy to
work with, and the test pieces I ordered were delivered quickly.
I've attached some photos of the product. There are a few observations that probably
need to be pointed out about them if someone else is looking at ordering
some for their project.
1. As shown in the photos, the shape of the pieces aren't really "streamlined";
your buying a 1x2 with a couple of angled table saw cuts and a pass across a
router. So, don't expect a lot for the low price.
2. The piece feels pretty heavy @ 1.2 lbs for a 3' section (I'm assuming it is
pine). This might hold up better on the back edge of my landing gear, but that
could add up if you were doing struts. With Balsa @ ~$18 for a 2x4x36 board
from ACS, you could make some lighter ones for about the same price if you have
the tools already.
3. The strips will make the tubes more streamlined, but they fall short of the
desired 4:1 teardrop shape. When attached to a 1" tube the overall length is
a little shorter than 2.75". That is about the same size as on my old landing
gear, and will work for my purpose, but may not be desirable for others.
Ryan
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Ryan Wheeler
Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Wood Fairings |
Kitfoxers, Try western red cedar, It's lighter than pine (not balsa wood
light), readily available in tapered cross section as beveled cedar siding,
easy to machine, and reasonably priced. If you haven't got a table or
bench saw and hand plane to finish it up, you probably belong in a certified
airplane.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM, rawheels <rawheels@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to give a quick user report.
>
> Airdale does carry the wood streamlined strips @ $2/ft. Brett was very
> easy to work with, and the test pieces I ordered were delivered quickly.
>
> I've attached some photos of the product. There are a few observations
> that probably need to be pointed out about them if someone else is looking
> at ordering some for their project.
>
> 1. As shown in the photos, the shape of the pieces aren't really
> "streamlined"; your buying a 1x2 with a couple of angled table saw cuts and
> a pass across a router. So, don't expect a lot for the low price.
>
> 2. The piece feels pretty heavy @ 1.2 lbs for a 3' section (I'm assuming
> it is pine). This might hold up better on the back edge of my landing gear,
> but that could add up if you were doing struts. With Balsa @ ~$18 for a
> 2x4x36 board from ACS, you could make some lighter ones for about the same
> price if you have the tools already.
>
> 3. The strips will make the tubes more streamlined, but they fall short of
> the desired 4:1 teardrop shape. When attached to a 1" tube the overall
> length is a little shorter than 2.75". That is about the same size as on my
> old landing gear, and will work for my purpose, but may not be desirable for
> others.
>
> Ryan
>
> --------
> Ryan Wheeler
> Kitfox IV-1200
> Indianapolis, IN
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337130#337130
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| Subject: | Re: Wood Fairings |
Guys,
I looked at streamlining my horizontal stab and wing jury struts with balsa
and ordered some from National Balsa, link below. Have the plastic on my
wing struts and left it there for now. I have not done anything with the
balsa I bought yet, moved my focus to getting the plane in the air first. My
thought was to glue and contour then cover with single layer carbon fiber or
fiberglass.
Lloyd C
Northern Mi.
KF 5 912ul IVO IFA
http://www.specializedbalsa.com/products2/lead_trail_aileron.php#TE
http://www.nationalbalsa.com/Balsa_Trailing_Edge_s/62.htm
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Reilly
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Wood Fairings
Kitfoxers, Try western red cedar, It's lighter than pine (not balsa wood
light), readily available in tapered cross section as beveled cedar siding,
easy to machine, and reasonably priced. If you haven't got a table or bench
saw and hand plane to finish it up, you probably belong in a certified
airplane.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM, rawheels <rawheels@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just wanted to give a quick user report.
Airdale does carry the wood streamlined strips @ $2/ft. Brett was very easy
to work with, and the test pieces I ordered were delivered quickly.
I've attached some photos of the product. There are a few observations that
probably need to be pointed out about them if someone else is looking at
ordering some for their project.
1. As shown in the photos, the shape of the pieces aren't really
"streamlined"; your buying a 1x2 with a couple of angled table saw cuts and
a pass across a router. So, don't expect a lot for the low price.
2. The piece feels pretty heavy @ 1.2 lbs for a 3' section (I'm assuming it
is pine). This might hold up better on the back edge of my landing gear,
but that could add up if you were doing struts. With Balsa @ ~$18 for a
2x4x36 board from ACS, you could make some lighter ones for about the same
price if you have the tools already.
3. The strips will make the tubes more streamlined, but they fall short of
the desired 4:1 teardrop shape. When attached to a 1" tube the overall
length is a little shorter than 2.75". That is about the same size as on my
old landing gear, and will work for my purpose, but may not be desirable for
others.
Ryan
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Indianapolis, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters |
I finally got some time out in the garage to start pulling apart the panel so I
decided to go ahead and make up a test panel with one of the blanks I made from
carbon fiber. This piece was my first attempt at a full size panel lay up
and was pretty full of imperfections. It is only two layers thick of carbon so
it is pretty flimsy but it holds up well enough to get a good look at it. I
still have green masking tape indicating where things will be installed such
as switches, VHF, Xponder, fuses, and the EIS will go in the big blank spot on
the right. I have spent a few weeks trying to lay out an aesthetic and functional
panel and as many of you know that is not at all easy. I am happy with
this layout and think I will only tweak it a little once I finalize what fabric
I will be using. The first picture is the fabric I want to use if I can find
more of it. I got this piece off Ebay about 7 years ago and I can not find
it anywhere. And that is what I have been doing with composites lately.
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
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| Subject: | Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters |
James, Looks great. What resin are you using? Keep us posted on source you
find for carbon fiber cloth.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>wrote:
> james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
>
> I finally got some time out in the garage to start pulling apart the panel
> so I decided to go ahead and make up a test panel with one of the blanks I
> made from carbon fiber. This piece was my first attempt at a full size
> panel lay up and was pretty full of imperfections. It is only two layers
> thick of carbon so it is pretty flimsy but it holds up well enough to get a
> good look at it. I still have green masking tape indicating where things
> will be installed such as switches, VHF, Xponder, fuses, and the EIS will go
> in the big blank spot on the right. I have spent a few weeks trying to lay
> out an aesthetic and functional panel and as many of you know that is not at
> all easy. I am happy with this layout and think I will only tweak it a
> little once I finalize what fabric I will be using. The first picture is
> the fabric I want to use if I can find more of it. I got this piece off
> Ebay about 7 years ago and I can not find it anywhere. And that is what I
> have been doing wit!
> h composites lately.
>
> --------
> James
> Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> now she lies in wait
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carbon Kitfox Crafters |
Honestly Pat, for the best quality on small quantity I have not found anything
better then Ebay. I have also found very little in the way of fabric designs
or styles elsewhere that are not on Ebay. And they were just weird. I bought
that Red and black hybrid cloth a long time ago and just got around to really
doing layups. Now I can't find that style fabric anywhere and I have spent a
couple hours looking. Usually if you can't find something in that amount of
time on the internet you probably wont find it. Or if you are like me you will
get completely involved in some new information you found and end up starting
a new project. [Laughing]
By the way the Dow worked great Pat. I did a hang test for 24 hours with fuel
coming from a height of over 4 feet. I am confident enough to say that that is
leak proof. Thanks again.
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
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