---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/05/11: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:49 AM - Re: windshield.... (rawheels) 2. 07:43 AM - Re: 582 RPM's (Patrick Reilly) 3. 09:00 AM - Re: 582 RPM's (mikeperkins) 4. 03:40 PM - Re: Re: 582 RPM's (Patrick Reilly) 5. 06:42 PM - Old Man II (Patrick Reilly) 6. 07:33 PM - Re: Old Man II (aerobatics@aol.com) 7. 07:40 PM - Re: Re: windshield.... (aerobatics@aol.com) 8. 07:59 PM - Firewall materiel? (WurlyBird) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:27 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: windshield.... From: "rawheels" clint_bazzill(at)hotmail. wrote: > Cut with sabre saw. Same here; I cut just off the line with a sabre saw, then sanded down to the line with a belt sander & dremel. I also used a plasticut file to remove any tool marks from the edges. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338981#338981 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 RPM's From: Patrick Reilly Guy, Thanks for the reply. I never could figure out why run a clutch except for startup at low idle to eliminate all the gearbox vibration. Now I know themajor advantage of the clutch is reduction if rpm on flare. Hey, Dave Fischer do you have a problem with reducing rpm on the 582 for landing? Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuilt Rockford, IL On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote: > > On 5/4/2011 7:30 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > >> Guy, Thanks for info. My biggest concern is that high idle on final at >> flare. >> > > It's been a common problem on the list in the past. That's one reason why a > lot of us run the clutch. I've always loved it. I notice the price is up to > $520US. Hard to swallow when the whole engine's only worth a few grand. I do > think, though, that it's the best improvement you can do to a flying 582. > > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:32 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 RPM's From: "mikeperkins" In a glide at idle power, the prop is being driven by the airflow; thus, the windmilling prop/engine is actually a drag on the aircraft. The reason for difference between ground and glide RPM is due to windmilling effects (which produce drag). The fact that the aircraft doesn't want to land at idle power is simply that there is excessive airspeed, not excessive power. I'd be interested to know what your final approach speed is before the flare. Mike Perkins Model I 532 1994 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339013#339013 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 RPM's From: Patrick Reilly Mike, Thanks for your input. I'm flairing too high most of the time also. I can't seem to get the correct sight picture for flair height. This happened previously and I corrected it. Now I'm back to flairing too high and bouncing back into the air. I am going to get my instructor up with me again. Pat Reilly On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:57 AM, mikeperkins wrote: > michael.perkins@rauland.com> > > In a glide at idle power, the prop is being driven by the airflow; thus, > the windmilling prop/engine is actually a drag on the aircraft. The reason > for difference between ground and glide RPM is due to windmilling effects > (which produce drag). > > The fact that the aircraft doesn't want to land at idle power is simply > that there is excessive airspeed, not excessive power. I'd be interested to > know what your final approach speed is before the flare. > > Mike Perkins > Model I 532 1994 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339013#339013 > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:42 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Old Man II From: Patrick Reilly An old man and his toys in Northern Illinois (with pictures attached this time, I hope) -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Old Man II From: aerobatics@aol.com I admire your honesty. I am a full time instructor and kitfox owner. I can help id you like.... Dave -----Original Message----- From: patreilly43@gmail.com Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 8:39 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Old Man II An old man and his toys in NorthernIllinois (with pictures attached this time, I hope) -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: windshield.... From: aerobatics@aol.com Thank you to everyone ... lots of great tips... really appreciate it Dave -----Original Message----- From: rawheels@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 5:46 am Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: windshield.... clint_bazzill(at)hotmail. wrote: > Cut with sabre saw. Same here; I cut just off the line with a sabre saw, then sanded down to the line with a belt sander & dremel. I also used a plasticut file to remove any tool marks from the edges. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338981#338981 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:01 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Firewall materiel? From: "WurlyBird" I was emailing the McBeans about a couple items including my firewall blanket which I think could stand replacement along with the engine swap. Talking with Debra prompted me to do a little searching online which showed me that nothing fire retardant looked like what I currently have which is grey cloth almost vinyl looking quilted with a thin foam core and plastic backing. I can get pictures later. Well I did a burn test on a sample and it is flammable and smells quite toxic when afire. Does this sound Like what others are using? So were these blankets intended as sound reduction only? Am I just crazy and my blanket has simply absorbed too much oil/fuel? -------- James Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments, now she lies in wait Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339074#339074 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.