---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/13/11: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:21 AM - Re: landing rpm (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 2. 07:37 PM - Re: Mod for strech (Av8r3400) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:54 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: landing rpm many of us fly to support our building habit. John Kerr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Reilly" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:23:49 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: landing rpm Jim, You caught my drift. Kind of like=C2-like flying , I can weld too. I 'm best at welding up burn through holes. Pat Reilly On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk < thesupe@hotmail.com > wrote: At that rate you just might get plenty of opertunitys to work on them!!=C2 -LOL=C2- Sorry, I couldn't resist that=C2-one.=C2- I'm a fine one t o talk though, I've had to do a bit of repairing at times myself.=C2- Kee p flying,=C2-keep learning, and keep having fun.=C2- I got another hour on my Avid this evening so I'm in a good mood myself.=C2- Take care,=C2 - Jim Chuk=C2- Avid MK IV=C2- (flying) Kitfox 4=C2- (building, kindof slowly latley) northern Mn =C2- Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: landing rpm From: patreilly43@gmail.com John, I say, I'll always be better at=C2-working on=C2-airplanes than I will be=C2-at flying them. Pat Reilly On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:50 PM, < kerrjohna@comcast.net > wrote: you have now had an aha moment, go enjoy some ah moments then come back to the "education and recreation" of home building. =C2- J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Reilly" < patreilly43@gmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:38:56 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: landing rpm John, Cut my approach glide IAS from 60 to 55mph. Huge difference in contro l and bounce eliminated. Didn't have time to cut approach glide to 50mph. B ut, I will when I return from vacation in a week. Rather stay here and play . But, wife says we're going to Puerto Rico. As the blues song goes, " She treats me like a king, she makes alot of money, I don't worry about a thing ". ( She is a goverment employee.) She says we're going, then we're going.. ..... I'm crazy.....not stupid! Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuilt Rockford, IL On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:56 PM, < kerrjohna@comcast.net > wrote: It will be good to hear if you find landing at the lower speed an easier ta sk.=C2- You will note that the 60 mph approach is not much different than the adjoining thread this morning talked of cruise speed seen with Model I V with 618 engine. =C2- John Kerr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Reilly" < patreilly43@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:53:34 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: landing rpm John, I am approaching at 60 and have planning on slowing it down to 50. Th anks. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rwbuilt Rockford, IL On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM, < kerrjohna@comcast.net > wrote: Frequently in the past, difficulty in landing has been traced back to appro ach speed.=C2- Using the recommended 1.3 x stall speed in the pattern wil l yield improved landings.=C2- Last year, prompted by this discussion I f lew final at 50mph ASI @ 2000 rpm and the stick held firmly in position unt il touch down.=C2- There was no float just a solid arrival.=C2- Using a slight amount of flair generates a greased landing with ~200 feet roll out . =C2- Since adding the VG's last month I have been practicing really slow landing s at idle with full 20 degree flaps and the plane is touching down at less than 40 ASI and so gently there is no chance of spinning off the valve stem s as alluded to in another thread.=C2- 20 degrees flaps does provide incr eased adverse yaw and therefore opportunities to improve airmanship. =C2- AOPA has a video out entitled Ups and Downs where in the chronical the prob lems of too fast approaches and too slow take offs. =C2- John Kerr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Reilly" < patreilly43@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:20:37 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: landing rpm Ed, Thanks for info. My problem, I believe has been pulling stick back too soon and relaunching. I=C2-have been negligent in the past=C2- about pu lling stick all the way back and am over compensating. Pat Reilly=C2- On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Ed Gray < egraylaw@swbell.net > wrote: I don=99t get the difficulty with rpms while landing.=C2- I stay at 2500 on final and the prop seems to be producing drag, since I can plop on the first 100 feet of runway.=C2- If flaring too high, try wheel landing s for a while.=C2- Just fly it onto the ground and keep the tail up until almost to the turnoff with about 2800 rpm.=C2- The Fox makes great wheel ies and you can see where you are going-just keep that stick forward and ea sy on the brakes.=C2- Comments? PS.=C2- I am about 2 months from completion of my Lancair 360 and waiting for my Viking (Honda) for the Kitfox 4 in the carshed.=C2- ONE FOR SLOW AND ONE FOR GO. 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Airdale is just 25 miles down the road from me. However I do have a 912 for it so the weight and balance is okay. 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