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     4. 10:31 AM - Re: Wifes maiden voyage (Patrick Reilly)
     5. 02:04 PM - Re: Wifes maiden voyage (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky)
     6. 04:31 PM - Re: Wifes maiden voyage (Patrick Reilly)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Wifes maiden voyage | 
      
      Lynn, When did you get TIG setup? Did you take any lessons? I took the wife
      up for her maiden voyage in the Kitfox yesterday early evening, no thermals.
      We flew to Broadhead for a touch and go and back to Cottonwood, 1.1 hr
      flight. She said she was scared on takeoff and climb out. After that she
      loved flying at 1200' AGL along the Sugar river. She wants to know when we
      can go again.
      
      -- 
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford,IL
      
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      Kitfoxers under construction, I wanted to give you KItfox Mod 3 and older
      builders my perspective on what I would do if building another 3.
      
      The modifications I have are;
      1 Aluminum cabin belly pan
      2 Dorsal Fin
      3 Home made Lexan turtle deck
      4 Homemade 5" wider cabin at the shoulder (similar to Murle Williams setup)
      5 Lowell Fitt electric trim tab
      6 Lowell Fitt radiator shutter
      7 Lexan oberservation doors
      8 Kitfox door struts
      9 Lowell Fitt bush gear
      10 front and back door latch with single handle
      11 21x12x8 Nanking tires
      
      To make it short the only things I would change would be to eliminate the
      trim tab and radiator shutters. I have had the belly pan, that was pooh
      poohed, off twice. The dorsal fin is purely cosmetic, but worth it in my
      opinion. The newer faster models would benefit from the trim tab, however I
      find I don't use it on the slow Mod 3. Flaperon trim is sufficient. I also
      don't use the radiator shutter. Wouldn't be without the bush gear,
      observation doors, door struts and wider cabin. As Lynn says, "Maybe it's
      just me", but that's what I would do.
      -- 
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford,IL
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wifes maiden voyage | 
      
      
      I got it over a year ago. Mine is the Diversion 165 by Miller. I used  
      a TIG welder back in 1970 at the wind tunnel, but haven't used one  
      (except for an occasional drop-in at the welding booths at Oshkosh)  
      since then. I was pretty good at oxy-acetylene welding, and so I  
      thought this was going to be a piece of cake....wrong. It took me a  
      little while to adjust to this machine, which has a torch-mounted amp  
      control, that you operate with your thumb or finger. At first I  
      couldn't determine how much amperage to set on the machine, so I  
      bought the foot pedal control so I didn't have to try to fiddle with  
      the thumb thing. One I got the feel for where to set the amp control,  
      and got my foot educated, I could go right along and make good welds,  
      then I went back to the thumb control, and have been happy ever  
      since. One thing I was doing wrong was trying to melt the rod with  
      the torch and hitting the tungsten with the rod, and that just messes  
      things up. Once I learned to dip the rod into the molten puddle, I  
      was off and running.
      
      When are you gonna teach her to fly it?
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062
      Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip)
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
      Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1110 hrs (since  
      3-27-2006)
      
      
      On May 29, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
      
      > Lynn, When did you get TIG setup? Did you take any lessons? I took  
      > the wife up for her maiden voyage in the Kitfox yesterday early  
      > evening, no thermals. We flew to Broadhead for a touch and go and  
      > back to Cottonwood, 1.1 hr flight. She said she was scared on  
      > takeoff and climb out. After that she loved flying at 1200' AGL  
      > along the Sugar river. She wants to know when we can go again.
      >
      > -- 
      > Pat Reilly
      > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      > Rockford,IL
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wifes maiden voyage | 
      
      Lynn, I wanted her to at least grab the stick...aahhh control stick that is.
      But she refused. She has enough trouble driving a car, but I will continue
      to try to get her to try taking the controls.
      
      Pat Reilly
      
      On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > I got it over a year ago. Mine is the Diversion 165 by Miller. I used a TIG
      > welder back in 1970 at the wind tunnel, but haven't used one (except for an
      > occasional drop-in at the welding booths at Oshkosh) since then. I was
      > pretty good at oxy-acetylene welding, and so I thought this was going to be
      > a piece of cake....wrong. It took me a little while to adjust to this
      > machine, which has a torch-mounted amp control, that you operate with your
      > thumb or finger. At first I couldn't determine how much amperage to set on
      > the machine, so I bought the foot pedal control so I didn't have to try to
      > fiddle with the thumb thing. One I got the feel for where to set the amp
      > control, and got my foot educated, I could go right along and make good
      > welds, then I went back to the thumb control, and have been happy ever
      > since. One thing I was doing wrong was trying to melt the rod with the torch
      > and hitting the tungsten with the rod, and that just messes things up. Once
      > I learned to dip the rod into the molten puddle, I was off and running.
      >
      > When are you gonna teach her to fly it?
      >
      > Lynn Matteson
      > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      > Jabiru 2200, #2062
      > Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip)
      > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
      > Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1110 hrs (since
      > 3-27-2006)
      >
      >
      > On May 29, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
      >
      > Lynn, When did you get TIG setup? Did you take any lessons? I took the wife
      >> up for her maiden voyage in the Kitfox yesterday early evening, no thermals.
      >> We flew to Broadhead for a touch and go and back to Cottonwood, 1.1 hr
      >> flight. She said she was scared on takeoff and climb out. After that she
      >> loved flying at 1200' AGL along the Sugar river. She wants to know when we
      >> can go again.
      >>
      >> --
      >> Pat Reilly
      >> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      >> Rockford,IL
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford,IL
      
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| Subject:  | Wifes maiden voyage | 
      
      Pat,
      
      You're a lucky man if you got your wife hooked on the Kitfox, a friend of
      ours took my wife and I to Green Bay in his 414 for lunch, it was bumpy and
      my wife got sick, (ya, that kind of sick), so now she says she has no desire
      to fly in the Kitfox, I have some work ahead of me.
      
      
      Lloyd Cudnohufsky
      
      5 Outback 912 IVO IFA
      
      Northern Mi.
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Reilly
      Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:22 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Wifes maiden voyage
      
      
      Lynn, When did you get TIG setup? Did you take any lessons? I took the wife
      up for her maiden voyage in the Kitfox yesterday early evening, no thermals.
      We flew to Broadhead for a touch and go and back to Cottonwood, 1.1 hr
      flight. She said she was scared on takeoff and climb out. After that she
      loved flying at 1200' AGL along the Sugar river. She wants to know when we
      can go again.
      
      -- 
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford,IL
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wifes maiden voyage | 
      
      Lloyd, My wife had been up with me in a 150 1 year ago. It was bumpy as
      hell. She thought that was normal. I had to explain, no that was about as
      bad as she should expect. Last summer a friend of mine from Cedar, MI took
      us up in his 172 club plane out of Traverse City. It was unbelievabley
      smooth. Joyce was impressed. I made sure there wasn't any thermal activity
      all day the evening I took her up. She said it sure didn't seem like we wer
      e
      up for a full 1.1 hrs. I hope the next flight is as good as the 1st. Joyce
      and I are going to be lighthouse keepers at the Old Mission lighthouse
      sometime in August. My brother and his wife were last year and we were
      visiting him and my friend in Cedar.
      Oh, by the way this is my 2nd wife. The 1st one threatened to divorce me
      when I went partners on an ultralite 25 years ago.
      
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
      Rockford, IL
      
      
      On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky <
      7suds@chartermi.net> wrote:
      
      >  Pat,
      >
      > You=92re a lucky man if you got your wife hooked on the Kitfox, a friend 
      of
      > ours took my wife and I to Green Bay in his 414 for lunch, it was bumpy a
      nd
      > my wife got sick, (ya, that kind of sick), so now she says she has no des
      ire
      > to fly in the Kitfox, I have some work ahead of me.
      >
      >
      > Lloyd Cudnohufsky
      >
      > 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA
      >
      > Northern Mi.
      >
      >
      > *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Reilly
      > *Sent:* Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:22 AM
      > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Kitfox-List: Wifes maiden voyage
      >
      >
      > Lynn, When did you get TIG setup? Did you take any lessons? I took the wi
      fe
      > up for her maiden voyage in the Kitfox yesterday early evening, no therma
      ls.
      > We flew to Broadhead for a touch and go and back to Cottonwood, 1.1 hr
      > flight. She said she was scared on takeoff and climb out. After that she
      > loved flying at 1200' AGL along the Sugar river. She wants to know when w
      e
      > can go again.
      >
      > --
      > Pat Reilly
      > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      > Rockford,IL
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      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford,IL
      
 
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