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1. 06:59 AM - 100 LL Vs Auto fuel (rtmarshall)
2. 07:07 AM - Speed (rtmarshall)
3. 08:07 AM - Rod end bearings for rudder attachment (Dwayne McCourt)
4. 10:02 AM - Re: Speed (Guy Buchanan)
5. 11:16 AM - Re: Speed (rtmarshall)
6. 11:27 AM - Re: Speed (Pete Christensen)
7. 07:15 PM - Re: Speed (floran higgins)
8. 07:56 PM - Re: Speed (Don Hudgeon)
9. 08:30 PM - Re: Speed (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | 100 LL Vs Auto fuel |
Hello Kitfox flyers, Since we are new to the 912 and know Zip! How does
the 912 like 100 LL. And does the auto fuel with the oxygenates cause
any problems?
Thanks for your replies.. Toodie and Bob
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Hi kitfox aviators ! Doing a extensive annual and wheel change and
looking to possibly install a set of wheel pants that we now have. These
puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you speedster
guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants off and
then installed ? thanks for your opinions. Bob and Toodie 4/1200
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| Subject: | Rod end bearings for rudder attachment |
I am looking for 3-CM-3BM14 Aurora Male Rod End Bearings. Thanks!
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On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote:
> These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you
> speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel
> pants off and then installed ?
I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on
the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look
COOL. (See photo.)
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
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Guy, As you say they are very cool, and that was what I suspected but
wanted to hear it from a flyer. You have a great looking ship. Thanks
for the info. Toodie and Bob
From: Guy Buchanan
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:00 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed
On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote:
These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you
speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants
off and then installed ?
I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on
the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look
COOL. (See photo.)
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
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Lookin Good!
Pete
Leander, TX
Kitfox III, 912, Grove
On 6/3/2011 12:00 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote:
>> These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you
>> speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel
>> pants off and then installed ?
>
> I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on
> the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look
> COOL. (See photo.)
>
> Guy Buchanan
> Ramona, CA
> Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
>
>
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I had wheele pants on my speedster but I took them off.
In my 58 years of flying, I have seen two airplanes laying on their
backs because of wheel pants.
They took off with sleet on the runway and it froze while they were in
the air. When they landed the wheels were frozen in the wheel pants and
would not turn. It caused the airplanes to roll over on their backs.
Floran Higgins
Helena, Mt.
Speedster
912 ULS
----- Original Message -----
From: Guy Buchanan
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed
On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote:
These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you
speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants
off and then installed ?
I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on
the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look
COOL. (See photo.)
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
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Hi Guys
I have a Model 5 long wing Vixen with 912UL. I have flown it for 100 hours
always with wheel pants (spats, in some countries) and have had no issues.
Always on pavement though. It cruises at 117 to 120 IAS. Maybe I will take
them off and see what happens. I always thought they were supposed to
"improve" speed.
Don
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:12 PM, floran higgins <cliffh@outdrs.net> wrote:
> I had wheele pants on my speedster but I took them off.
> In my 58 years of flying, I have seen two airplanes laying on their backs
> because of wheel pants.
> They took off with sleet on the runway and it froze while they were in the
> air. When they landed the wheels were frozen in the wheel pants and would
> not turn. It caused the airplanes to roll over on their backs.
>
> Floran Higgins
> Helena, Mt.
> Speedster
> 912 ULS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net>
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 11:00 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Speed
>
> On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote:
>
> These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you
> speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants off
> and then installed ?
>
>
> I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on the
> wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look COOL. (See
> photo.)
>
> Guy Buchanan
> Ramona, CA
> Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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On 6/3/2011 7:53 PM, Don Hudgeon wrote:
> Maybe I will take them off and see what happens. I always thought they
> were supposed to "improve" speed.
Well, it certainly depends on the pants. Modern laminar flow pants only
marginally bigger than the wheels will dramatically reduce drag. Pants
like mine that are turbulent flow and four times the cross sectional
area of the tire don't reduce drag. (Especially with 1/2 the wheel
sticking out anyway!)
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
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