---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/03/11: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:59 AM - 100 LL Vs Auto fuel (rtmarshall) 2. 07:07 AM - Speed (rtmarshall) 3. 08:07 AM - Rod end bearings for rudder attachment (Dwayne McCourt) 4. 10:02 AM - Re: Speed (Guy Buchanan) 5. 11:16 AM - Re: Speed (rtmarshall) 6. 11:27 AM - Re: Speed (Pete Christensen) 7. 07:15 PM - Re: Speed (floran higgins) 8. 07:56 PM - Re: Speed (Don Hudgeon) 9. 08:30 PM - Re: Speed (Guy Buchanan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:13 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Kitfox-List: 100 LL Vs Auto fuel Hello Kitfox flyers, Since we are new to the 912 and know Zip! How does the 912 like 100 LL. And does the auto fuel with the oxygenates cause any problems? Thanks for your replies.. Toodie and Bob ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:55 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Kitfox-List: Speed Hi kitfox aviators ! Doing a extensive annual and wheel change and looking to possibly install a set of wheel pants that we now have. These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants off and then installed ? thanks for your opinions. Bob and Toodie 4/1200 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:35 AM PST US From: Dwayne McCourt Subject: Kitfox-List: Rod end bearings for rudder attachment I am looking for 3-CM-3BM14 Aurora Male Rod End Bearings. Thanks! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:53 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote: > These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you > speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel > pants off and then installed ? I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look COOL. (See photo.) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:58 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed Guy, As you say they are very cool, and that was what I suspected but wanted to hear it from a flyer. You have a great looking ship. Thanks for the info. Toodie and Bob From: Guy Buchanan Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:00 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote: These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants off and then installed ? I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look COOL. (See photo.) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:52 AM PST US From: Pete Christensen Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed Lookin Good! Pete Leander, TX Kitfox III, 912, Grove On 6/3/2011 12:00 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote: > On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote: >> These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you >> speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel >> pants off and then installed ? > > I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on > the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look > COOL. (See photo.) > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:30 PM PST US From: "floran higgins" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed I had wheele pants on my speedster but I took them off. In my 58 years of flying, I have seen two airplanes laying on their backs because of wheel pants. They took off with sleet on the runway and it froze while they were in the air. When they landed the wheels were frozen in the wheel pants and would not turn. It caused the airplanes to roll over on their backs. Floran Higgins Helena, Mt. Speedster 912 ULS ----- Original Message ----- From: Guy Buchanan To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote: These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants off and then installed ? I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on the wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look COOL. (See photo.) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed From: Don Hudgeon Hi Guys I have a Model 5 long wing Vixen with 912UL. I have flown it for 100 hours always with wheel pants (spats, in some countries) and have had no issues. Always on pavement though. It cruises at 117 to 120 IAS. Maybe I will take them off and see what happens. I always thought they were supposed to "improve" speed. Don On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:12 PM, floran higgins wrote: > I had wheele pants on my speedster but I took them off. > In my 58 years of flying, I have seen two airplanes laying on their backs > because of wheel pants. > They took off with sleet on the runway and it froze while they were in the > air. When they landed the wheels were frozen in the wheel pants and would > not turn. It caused the airplanes to roll over on their backs. > > Floran Higgins > Helena, Mt. > Speedster > 912 ULS > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Guy Buchanan > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 11:00 AM > *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Speed > > On 6/3/2011 7:05 AM, rtmarshall wrote: > > These puppies' are really of rather dubious size and shape. All you > speedster guys, did you see any difference in speed with the wheel pants off > and then installed ? > > > I'm not a Speedster guy, but my plane slows down about 5 when I put on the > wheel pants. Of course, they were made for a DC-3, but they look COOL. (See > photo.) > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:06 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speed On 6/3/2011 7:53 PM, Don Hudgeon wrote: > Maybe I will take them off and see what happens. I always thought they > were supposed to "improve" speed. Well, it certainly depends on the pants. Modern laminar flow pants only marginally bigger than the wheels will dramatically reduce drag. Pants like mine that are turbulent flow and four times the cross sectional area of the tire don't reduce drag. (Especially with 1/2 the wheel sticking out anyway!) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.