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1. 03:09 PM - Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Jim Crowder)
2. 04:21 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Lynn Matteson)
3. 04:57 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Guy Buchanan)
4. 06:05 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Don Hudgeon)
5. 06:26 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (jdmcbean)
6. 06:43 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (dave)
7. 08:12 PM - Re: Need a 15 hour Checkout preferably with a Local Florida or GA based CFI (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
8. 08:27 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
9. 08:30 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
10. 08:36 PM - Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
11. 11:24 PM - Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel (Jim Crowder)
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| Subject: | Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel |
I am redoing my instrument panel and need to remove the printed tape labels
generated by a label machine. I have tried WD40, alcohol, lacquer thinner,
and a heat gun as hot as I have so far dared to apply. None of this has
worked so far. The labels have been in place about five years and seem to
defy non destructive removal. A fingernail doesn't work either. Help
needed--any suggestions?
Jim Crowder
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
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Jim...Have you tried Goo Gone? www.GooGone.com Pretty
good stuff....
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1135 hrs (since
3-27-2006)
On Jul 12, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Jim Crowder wrote:
> I am redoing my instrument panel and need to remove the printed
> tape labels generated by a label machine. I have tried WD40,
> alcohol, lacquer thinner, and a heat gun as hot as I have so far
> dared to apply. None of this has worked so far. The labels have
> been in place about five years and seem to defy non destructive
> removal. A fingernail doesnt work either. Help needed--any
> suggestions?
>
> Jim Crowder
>
> www.matronics.com/contribution _-
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
Panel
On 7/12/2011 3:05 PM, Jim Crowder wrote:
>
> None of this has worked so far. The labels have been in place about
> five years and seem to defy non destructive removal. A fingernail
> doesn't work either. Help needed--any suggestions?
>
Jim,
My favorite, by far, is Motsenbocker's. I use it a lot. Goo Gone is
OK, but much weaker. (The other Motsenbocker's (there are three) all
work great for their advertised purposes, too.)
*_Guy Buchanan_*
Scoutmaster -- Troop 680
760.809.6145
scoutmaster@troop680.org <mailto:scoutmaster@troop680.org>
www.troop680.org
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
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How about lighter fluid!!!
Don
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
> **
> On 7/12/2011 3:05 PM, Jim Crowder wrote:
>
> None of this has worked so far. The labels have been in place about five
> years and seem to defy non destructive removal. A fingernail doesn=92t w
ork
> either. Help needed--any suggestions?
>
> Jim,
> My favorite, by far, is Motsenbocker's. I use it a lot. Goo Gone is O
K,
> but much weaker. (The other Motsenbocker's (there are three) all work gre
at
> for their advertised purposes, too.)
>
> *Guy Buchanan*
>
> Scoutmaster ' Troop 680****
>
> 760.809.6145****
>
> scoutmaster@troop680.org****
>
> ** **
>
> www.troop680.org****
>
> ** **
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> *
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| Subject: | Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
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Believe it or not.. try WD-40.. that is about the only thing I use it for..
but works well..
Fly Safe !!
John McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:05 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument
Panel
I am redoing my instrument panel and need to remove the printed tape labels
generated by a label machine. I have tried WD40, alcohol, lacquer thinner,
and a heat gun as hot as I have so far dared to apply. None of this has
worked so far. The labels have been in place about five years and seem to
defy non destructive removal. A fingernail doesn't work either. Help
needed--any suggestions?
Jim Crowder
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
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http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/3mcitrubaseclean.php
3M makes another line for acrylic base adhesives. If you cannot soften with gas,
varsol acetone or MEK try this stuff and it citrus based.
http://www.lazair.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1072&p=7268#p7268
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
http://www.kitfoxflyer.com/
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346160#346160
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| Subject: | Need a 15 hour Checkout preferably with a Local |
Florida or GA based CFI
On Mon, July 11, 2011 12:15 pm, jdmcbean wrote:
> This was just published on EAA E-Hotline. Although you would need to come
> to him.
>
>
> http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/arti...6_training.asp
> <http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2011-06_training.asp>
The Kitfox he uses for instruction has a glass panel and there is a link to it
here.
<http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/SkyView_intro.html>
Boy, oh boy, does this have appeal to me. Easy to read, has everything in one place,
looks simple to hookup. I like it.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
Panel
On Tue, July 12, 2011 3:05 pm, Jim Crowder wrote:
> I am redoing my instrument panel and need to remove the printed tape labels
> generated by a label machine. I have tried WD40, alcohol, lacquer thinner,
> and a heat gun as hot as I have so far dared to apply. None of this has
> worked so far. The labels have been in place about five years and seem to
> defy non destructive removal. A fingernail doesn't work either. Help
> needed--any suggestions?
They sound look very good labels. One that I have the labels tend to fall off on
their
own when exposed to sunlight or heat and cool cycles.
What are they?
And, I have some experience with removing some factory applied labels applied to
some
kind of laminate and they were hard to get off because the label itself was
impermeable to the solvents. So, I bought this little razor blade knife that works
like a plane and has little adjustable guides so you can pull it, rather than push.
The tough label job was made worse because the labels were on a cylindrical surface.
I
used the little razor plane and shaved the labels down to the point there was only
a
residual dried glue remaining. I used a small squirt can, smaller than a can of
lighter fluid that Goo-B-Gone came in and just wetted the glue and wiped it with
one
of those green kitchen scouring pads which resembles scotch brite. Three wet and
wipe
passes did the job. But before planing through the labels, the Goo-Be-Gone had
no
effect.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
Panel
On Tue, July 12, 2011 3:05 pm, Jim Crowder wrote:
> I am redoing my instrument panel and need to remove the printed tape labels
> generated by a label machine. I have tried WD40, alcohol, lacquer thinner,
> and a heat gun as hot as I have so far dared to apply. None of this has
> worked so far. The labels have been in place about five years and seem to
> defy non destructive removal. A fingernail doesn't work either. Help
> needed--any suggestions?
They sound look very good labels. One that I have the labels tend to fall off on
their
own when exposed to sunlight or heat and cool cycles.
What are they?
And, I have some experience with removing some factory applied labels applied to
some
kind of laminate and they were hard to get off because the label itself was
impermeable to the solvents. So, I bought this little razor blade knife that works
like a plane and has little adjustable guides so you can pull it, rather than push.
The tough label job was made worse because the labels were on a cylindrical surface.
I
used the little razor plane and shaved the labels down to the point there was only
a
residual dried glue remaining. I used a small squirt can, smaller than a can of
lighter fluid that Goo-B-Gone came in and just wetted the glue and wiped it with
one
of those green kitchen scouring pads which resembles scotch brite. Three wet and
wipe
passes did the job. But before planing through the labels, the Goo-Be-Gone had
no
effect.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument |
Panel
On Tue, July 12, 2011 3:05 pm, Jim Crowder wrote:
> I am redoing my instrument panel and need to remove the printed tape labels
> generated by a label machine. I have tried WD40, alcohol, lacquer thinner,
> and a heat gun as hot as I have so far dared to apply. None of this has
> worked so far. The labels have been in place about five years and seem to
> defy non destructive removal. A fingernail doesn't work either. Help
> needed--any suggestions?
They sound look very good labels. One that I have the labels tend to fall off on
their
own when exposed to sunlight or heat and cool cycles.
What are they?
And, I have some experience with removing some factory applied labels applied to
some
kind of laminate and they were hard to get off because the label itself was
impermeable to the solvents. So, I bought this little razor blade knife that works
like a plane and has little adjustable guides so you can pull it, rather than push.
The tough label job was made worse because the labels were on a cylindrical surface.
I
used the little razor plane and shaved the labels down to the point there was only
a
residual dried glue remaining. I used a small squirt can, smaller than a can of
lighter fluid that Goo-B-Gone came in and just wetted the glue and wiped it with
one
of those green kitchen scouring pads which resembles scotch brite. Three wet and
wipe
passes did the job. But before planing through the labels, the Goo-Be-Gone had
no
effect.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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| Subject: | Removing Printed Identification Labels from Instrument Panel |
Wow! You guys really came through for me with a lot of great suggestions.
I will give them all a try. After I got back to the house, my wife
presented me with an unopened bottle of Goo Gone from her pantry. I will
return to the hangar tomorrow afternoon with that and some of the other
solvents suggested. I will report the results. The labels came from one of
those little printers that sell at the office supply stores.
You just never know what your next hang-up will be. I never guessed label
removal would be one. The good news is that I installed my new Grand Rapids
EFIS Display in my panel, lit it up and no smoke!. Not all of the sensors
are wired yet, but even in the hangar it is a blast to play with. I'm like
a kid at Christmas. It interfaces with the Grand Rapids EIS I already had.
What a blast. The Grand Rapids people are one of the nicest groups I have
ever dealt with. Sandy who answers the phone actually told me not to waste
time going out and looking for the little parts I need to complete the
install, and to just let her know what I need and she would just send them
to me. I purchased the larger Sport model and the daylight viewable screen
is really that. Moving map downloads and software upgrades are free
forever. They say the feds don't charge them, so why should they charge
their customers. See what Garmen has to say on that subject. When I buy
an upgrade from Garmen, I am only allowed to use it in one of my Garmen
products.
Thank all of you for your responses. I suspect the problem as Paul says he
once found, that my solvents are not getting through the label to the glue.
I think I will need to attack the label material itself.
Jim Crowder
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