---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/15/11: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:01 AM - Oshkosh AirVenture (rawheels) 2. 07:42 AM - Re: Voltmeter advice needed (Lowell Fitt) 3. 08:36 AM - Re: Voltmeter advice needed (paul wilson) 4. 09:38 AM - Re: Voltmeter advice needed (b d) 5. 10:41 AM - Re: Oshkosh AirVenture (Lynn Matteson) 6. 10:46 AM - Re: Voltmeter advice needed (Lynn Matteson) 7. 11:54 AM - Re: Voltmeter advice needed (Lynn Matteson) 8. 12:12 PM - Re: Oshkosh AirVenture (sourdostan@aol.com) 9. 08:30 PM - Re: Oshkosh AirVenture (Av8r3400) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:46 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh AirVenture From: "rawheels" Who's headed up to Oshkosh this year? -------- Ryan Wheeler Kitfox IV-1200 Indianapolis, IN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346496#346496 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:57 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Voltmeter advice needed Lynn, Late last night I checked out Mouser, my favorite electronics outlet. Be careful though, if you buy too much you will get a New York City phonebook sized catalog ever three months. They have several 2 volt digital volt meters. The hitch is that they will need a 5 volt supply to to feed the LCD display. I have found it almost impossible, though, to navigate their online catalog. Try this. In their home page search field, Type in Murata. Then on the next page there will be a search field titled "Select Manufacturer" - click on the down arrow and select "Murata Power Solutions". Then click on "Panel Meters". Here you will find a page that shows filters that will narrow your search. This is where it gets fun. As you click on the filters, the red line will give you the number if items still remaining after the filters are applied. One other thing, for the 5v supply, do a search on DC to DC converters. These are small postage stamp sized solid state devices that will convert the 12 or more volt input to a regulated 5 volt output. The reason I like this company is that they have almost everything you will ever need electronically, but they also don't have a minimum order so will sell to the occasional hobbyist, or the bulk buying manufacturer. They will also give an inventory supply so you know if it is a stocked item or will be back ordered. Hope this helps. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:01 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Voltmeter advice needed > > I'm looking for a small digital voltmeter....voltmeter ONLY, if possible. > I want to install a voltmeter in my panel to monitor my timing advance > (this uses less than 2 volts). I realize that I can buy a multimeter, but > I don't want to have to figure out what to do to make all the other > functions go away and leave me with ONLY the voltage reading. This way I > hope to be able to mount just the display somewhere on the panel (I'm > running out of room) and read only voltage, which will be under 2 volts > in this application. Anybody know of one, or able to steer me in the > right direction? > > I have a couple of digital multimeters, but looking inside and seeing all > the extra crap that I don't need, made me decide that there must be an > easier way. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1137 hrs (since > 3-27-2006) > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:24 AM PST US From: paul wilson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Voltmeter advice needed http://www.futurlec.com/Panel_Meters.shtml Lots of choices ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Voltmeter advice needed From: b d Are you wanting digital or analog and with how much resolution? What is the voltage range you are needing (ie 1.00 to 2.00 vdc or 1.000 to 1.100 etc) What size display do you want? 3/8 1/2 1 etc What first comes to mind is an *el cheapo multimeter* set on the 2 VDC range. (I presume VDC), remove the digital display from the meter and mount it remotely (your instrument panel), and mount the internal electronics where there is more room. Don't worry about the other functions, just set it to 2 vdc max and go from there. That automatically selects the number of decimals to the right of the decimal point. *Harbor Freight*comes to mind. Buy an el-cheapo meter and crack it open and try it. If you like what you see, go from there . . . if not keep exploring. You are looking at a less than $5-$20 investment. I once built a event counter display out of a $2 calculator to prove a point and solve a problem A person can throw all sorts of money at something like this. It all depends on the persons mind set to get the job done, to lean towards the frugal side or the expensive side. Secondly, is the primary function variable from the cockpit and you wish to measure and see the results? Said another way, can you change your timing from the cockpit? If so, what voltage range correlates with the minimum and maximum timing angles you want to measure? Also keep this in mind: You can install a couple jacks on your panel or below where you can plug a meter in and hang the meter somewhere out of the way. This would be simple if you don't need the information all the time plus you have your meter intact for other things if needed. Consider the battery too. Are you going to use internal or external power for the meter/display? If internal, you will need to be able to change the battery occasionally plus you will need an on/off power switch or a relay from your master. My 2 pennies . . . . Bruce On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:. > > I'm looking for a small digital voltmeter....voltmeter ONLY, if possible. I > want to install a voltmeter in my panel to monitor my timing advance (this > uses less than 2 volts). I realize that I can buy a multimeter, but I don't > want to have to figure out what to do to make all the other functions go > away and leave me with ONLY the voltage reading. This way I hope to be able > to mount just the display somewhere on the panel (I'm running out of room) > and read only voltage, which will be under 2 volts in this application. > Anybody know of one, or able to steer me in the right direction? > > I have a couple of digital multimeters, but looking inside and seeing all > the extra crap that I don't need, made me decide that there must be an > easier way.* > * *Try separating the display from the electronics on one of your meters. possibly you can use a ribbon wire to extend the display from the meter internals. I would consider using a plug connector between them otherwise you wind up with the same problem. * > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1137 hrs (since > 3-27-2006) > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:52 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh AirVenture I, for one..... Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1137 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:59 AM, rawheels wrote: > > Who's headed up to Oshkosh this year? > > -------- > Ryan Wheeler > Kitfox IV-1200 > Indianapolis, IN > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346496#346496 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:12 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Voltmeter advice needed That helps a bunch, Lowell...thanks. I have a Hobbico digital voltmeter, which I thought about stripping and using, but if I can find a unit like you describe, that'll be much better. I've got a local electronics guru who'll be able to help, so maybe I'll get this thing going. I'm gonna copy this post and take it with me when I see him tomorrow. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1137 hrs (since 3-27-2006) On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > > > Lynn, > > Late last night I checked out Mouser, my favorite electronics > outlet. Be careful though, if you buy too much you will get a New > York City phonebook sized catalog ever three months. They have > several 2 volt digital volt meters. The hitch is that they will > need a 5 volt supply to to feed the LCD display. I have found it > almost impossible, though, to navigate their online catalog. > > Try this. In their home page search field, Type in Murata. Then > on the next page there will be a search field titled "Select > Manufacturer" - click on the down arrow and select "Murata Power > Solutions". Then click on "Panel Meters". Here you will find a > page that shows filters that will narrow your search. This is > where it gets fun. As you click on the filters, the red line will > give you the number if items still remaining after the filters are > applied. > > One other thing, for the 5v supply, do a search on DC to DC > converters. These are small postage stamp sized solid state devices > that will convert the 12 or more volt input to a regulated 5 volt > output. > > The reason I like this company is that they have almost everything > you will ever need electronically, but they also don't have a > minimum order so will sell to the occasional hobbyist, or the bulk > buying manufacturer. They will also give an inventory supply so > you know if it is a stocked item or will be back ordered. > > Hope this helps. > > Lowell ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:52 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Voltmeter advice needed I'll say...thanks, Paul....I'll be looking at these more closely. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1139 hrs (since 3-27-2006) On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:33 AM, paul wilson wrote: > > http://www.futurlec.com/Panel_Meters.shtml > Lots of choices > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh AirVenture From: sourdostan@aol.com I'll be there all week in HBC. Stan Specht Lakewood, Co Kitfox IV Speedster 912 N16KC do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Matteson Sent: Fri, Jul 15, 2011 11:39 am Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh AirVenture I, for one..... Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1137 hrs (since 3-27-20 06) do not archive On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:59 AM, rawheels wrote: > > Who's headed up to Oshkosh this year? > > -------- > Ryan Wheeler > Kitfox IV-1200 > Indianapolis, IN > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346496#346496 > > > > > > > > > > ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:08 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh AirVenture From: "Av8r3400" I'll be there all week, down on the Ultralight farm. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346620#346620 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.