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1. 08:19 AM - Trailering advice (mscotter)
2. 09:05 AM - Re: Trailering advice (Michael Kraus)
3. 09:16 AM - Re: Trailering advice (simonnelson@vodamail.co.za)
4. 09:36 AM - Re: Trailering advice (mscotter)
5. 09:54 AM - Re: Trailering advice (Lynn Matteson)
6. 10:19 AM - Re: Trailering advice (Lynn Matteson)
7. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Trailering advice (simonnelson@vodamail.co.za)
8. 11:27 AM - Re: Trailering advice (Patrick Reilly)
9. 06:39 PM - Re: Trailering advice (Albert)
10. 06:48 PM - Re: Trailering advice (Tom Jones)
11. 07:13 PM - Re: Re: Trailering advice (Lynn Matteson)
12. 07:51 PM - Re: Trailering advice (Tom Jones)
13. 07:51 PM - titan through the tree (Malcolm Brubaker)
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| Subject: | Trailering advice |
Hi guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I am getting ready
to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton, MD. I have a model IV project
that I wish to take with me. The fuselage is covered and on the gear, the
wings are assembled but not mounted on the fuse, and the engine is hung on the
fuse. Horizontal stabilizer is not installed and of course I have a few boxes
of various things.
I am wondering if it would be best to find a used boat trailer and modify it, or
if a simple flat-deck trailer (like landscapers use) would be best. I have
little time, about a week and a half, before I have to leave. I should have started
on this a while ago, but getting ready to sell my house took up all my time.
I've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist, and have access
to a small mig welder if I need to make modifications. I'm interested in
your thoughts of what would be most efficient in terms of time and cost while
keeping my project safe for a 7 hour road trip. Thanks for your help.
Mark Scott
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Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
I moved my RV-4 from Georgia to Michigan. It fit in a 26' UHaul with the wings
and horizontal stabilizer removed.
It was nice being inside and protected from the rain, wind, road trash, etc during
the move.
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:15 AM, "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Hi guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I am getting
ready to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton, MD. I have a model IV project
that I wish to take with me. The fuselage is covered and on the gear,
the wings are assembled but not mounted on the fuse, and the engine is hung on
the fuse. Horizontal stabilizer is not installed and of course I have a few
boxes of various things.
>
> I am wondering if it would be best to find a used boat trailer and modify it,
or if a simple flat-deck trailer (like landscapers use) would be best. I have
little time, about a week and a half, before I have to leave. I should have
started on this a while ago, but getting ready to sell my house took up all my
time.
>
> I've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist, and have
access to a small mig welder if I need to make modifications. I'm interested
in your thoughts of what would be most efficient in terms of time and cost while
keeping my project safe for a 7 hour road trip. Thanks for your help.
>
> Mark Scott
>
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> Mark Scott
> Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
Er, finish it and fly it there! Sorry some one had to say it!
Sy
------Original Message------
From: mscotter
Sender: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailering advice
Sent: Aug 2, 2011 17:15
Hi guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I am getting ready
to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton, MD. I have a model IV project
that I wish to take with me. The fuselage is covered and on the gear, the
wings are assembled but not mounted on the fuse, and the engine is hung on the
fuse. Horizontal stabilizer is not installed and of course I have a few boxes
of various things.
I am wondering if it would be best to find a used boat trailer and modify it, or
if a simple flat-deck trailer (like landscapers use) would be best. I have
little time, about a week and a half, before I have to leave. I should have started
on this a while ago, but getting ready to sell my house took up all my time.
I've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist, and have access
to a small mig welder if I need to make modifications. I'm interested in
your thoughts of what would be most efficient in terms of time and cost while
keeping my project safe for a 7 hour road trip. Thanks for your help.
Mark Scott
--------
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348374#348374
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
Sy, you are right on the money. This project has been my dream, yet it has sat
in my garage for several years with no progress. I've been involved in so many
other things relating to family, job changes, etc and i kept meaning "to get
around to it", but never did. This move is a big change for me and my family,
but one of my intentions is to get started on the kitfox and make it a priority
before too many other distractions creep in at our new location. I will let
you know how that plan works out!
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Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
I modified a fairly light boat trailer by screwing 3/4" plywood onto
the trailer. One piece was laid the long way, and one laid crossways,
with cutouts to clear the fenders on the trailer. My wings were put
together, but the fuel tanks were not installed. Without the fuel
tanks in place, the wheels can be raised and stuck through the wings
where the tanks would be. The wings then ride vertically, chord-wise,
alongside the fuse, and resting on the leading edge...cushioned, of
course. It is a VERY good idea to raise the tailwheel, and take
advantage of the "through-the-fuselage" tube that allows for this.
When I first got the notion to travel to Texas (thanks, Jimmie) to
pick up this unfinished plane, I made some late evening measurements
of my trailer, installed the plywood the next morning and I was well
on my way to leaving for Texas in a day or so.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1152 hrs (since
3-27-2006)
On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mscotter wrote:
>
> Hi guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I
> am getting ready to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton,
> MD. I have a model IV project that I wish to take with me. The
> fuselage is covered and on the gear, the wings are assembled but
> not mounted on the fuse, and the engine is hung on the fuse.
> Horizontal stabilizer is not installed and of course I have a few
> boxes of various things.
>
> I am wondering if it would be best to find a used boat trailer and
> modify it, or if a simple flat-deck trailer (like landscapers use)
> would be best. I have little time, about a week and a half, before
> I have to leave. I should have started on this a while ago, but
> getting ready to sell my house took up all my time.
>
> I've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist,
> and have access to a small mig welder if I need to make
> modifications. I'm interested in your thoughts of what would be
> most efficient in terms of time and cost while keeping my project
> safe for a 7 hour road trip. Thanks for your help.
>
> Mark Scott
>
> --------
> Mark Scott
> Elkton, MD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348374#348374
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
I just recalled some details about my boat trailer modifications
regarding the Kitfox....when I got to Texas (1300 mile trip), I moved
the one piece of plywood closer to the front of the trailer, so that
it would be under the tailwheel, and I recall now having built 1/4"
"sides" on the floor to keep the big chunks of airplane from rolling
off. : )
Here are some pictures:
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1152 hrs (since
3-27-2006)
do not archive
On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mscotter wrote:
>
> Hi guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I
> am getting ready to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton,
> MD. I have a model IV project that I wish to take with me. The
> fuselage is covered and on the gear, the wings are assembled but
> not mounted on the fuse, and the engine is hung on the fuse.
> Horizontal stabilizer is not installed and of course I have a few
> boxes of various things.
>
> I am wondering if it would be best to find a used boat trailer and
> modify it, or if a simple flat-deck trailer (like landscapers use)
> would be best. I have little time, about a week and a half, before
> I have to leave. I should have started on this a while ago, but
> getting ready to sell my house took up all my time.
>
> I've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist,
> and have access to a small mig welder if I need to make
> modifications. I'm interested in your thoughts of what would be
> most efficient in terms of time and cost while keeping my project
> safe for a 7 hour road trip. Thanks for your help.
>
> Mark Scott
>
> --------
> Mark Scott
> Elkton, MD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348374#348374
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
Mark,
Many people live lives of quite desperation!
Get in and just do it, get the family involved, your life will change forever,
your family will thank you for it.
You will meet amazing people, such as the wonderful people on this chat page.
Give your family my regards and tell them to kick your butt and finish that plane!
Yours is not to reason why, but just to build and fly!
Sy
Just about to build 3 Slings!
(This eternity thing, will it never end?)
------Original Message------
From: mscotter
Sender: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering advice
Sent: Aug 2, 2011 18:33
Sy, you are right on the money. This project has been my dream, yet it has sat
in my garage for several years with no progress. I've been involved in so many
other things relating to family, job changes, etc and i kept meaning "to get
around to it", but never did. This move is a big change for me and my family,
but one of my intentions is to get started on the kitfox and make it a priority
before too many other distractions creep in at our new location. I will let
you know how that plan works out!
--------
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348388#348388
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
Mark, About the only way I'd move that project is in an enclosed trailer
with the wings hanging on the walls.
Pat Reilly
mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:15 AM, mscotter <mscotter@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I am
> getting ready to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton, MD. I have a
> model IV project that I wish to take with me. The fuselage is covered and
> on the gear, the wings are assembled but not mounted on the fuse, and the
> engine is hung on the fuse. Horizontal stabilizer is not installed and of
> course I have a few boxes of various things.
>
> I am wondering if it would be best to find a used boat trailer and modify
> it, or if a simple flat-deck trailer (like landscapers use) would be best.
> I have little time, about a week and a half, before I have to leave. I
> should have started on this a while ago, but getting ready to sell my house
> took up all my time.
>
> I've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist, and
> have access to a small mig welder if I need to make modifications. I'm
> interested in your thoughts of what would be most efficient in terms of time
> and cost while keeping my project safe for a 7 hour road trip. Thanks for
> your help.
>
> Mark Scott
>
> --------
> Mark Scott
> Elkton, MD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348374#348374
>
>
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
I would pull the engine or block the fuselage or both.
Albert Smith
Mod 5 TD
Mudlake Idaho
From: Patrick Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trailering advice
Mark, About the only way I'd move that project is in an enclosed trailer
with the wings hanging on the walls.
Pat Reilly
mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:15 AM, mscotter <mscotter@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I am
getting ready to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton, MD. I have
a model IV project that I wish to take with me. The fuselage is covered
and on the gear, the wings are assembled but not mounted on the fuse,
and the engine is hung on the fuse. Horizontal stabilizer is not
installed and of course I have a few boxes of various things.
I am wondering if it would be best to find a used boat trailer and
modify it, or if a simple flat-deck trailer (like landscapers use) would
be best. I have little time, about a week and a half, before I have to
leave. I should have started on this a while ago, but getting ready to
sell my house took up all my time.
I've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist,
and have access to a small mig welder if I need to make modifications.
I'm interested in your thoughts of what would be most efficient in terms
of time and cost while keeping my project safe for a 7 hour road trip.
Thanks for your help.
Mark Scott
--------
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
Mark, don't feel bad. I moved my project in about the stage you see in Lynn's
pictures. It took me six years to finish then another year to fix what I broke
trying to fly it with minimal tail wheel experience, then another six years
to get brave enough to try it again after getting the proper training.
Today I am doing my on 4th annual condition inspection and enjoying every minute
of it so much I can't hardly stand it.
Anyhow on moving your kitfox. I used a rental Rider 24 foot van. That will probably
be pretty expensive as you seem to be traveling much futher. You can probably
do it much less cheap...er... inexpensive buying a boat trailer and using
Lynn's photos for a guide. Transporting the wings leading edge down is the
same as I did.
Lynn, is that Jimmie in your photo? I had many conversations with him while I
was building. Some extra parts from my Kit are now in your airplane. Bet you
didn't know that.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
Nope, those are two neighbors of mine....both looking kinda doubtful
about what their neighbor just dragged home. But the "fat guy with a
beard", as he calls himself, has been up in my plane several times,
so he's a doubter no more. : )
What parts are those, Tom? Some of the parts that I got from Jimmie I
didn't use....
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1152 hrs (since
3-27-2006)
On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Tom Jones wrote:
>
> Mark, don't feel bad. I moved my project in about the stage you
> see in Lynn's pictures. It took me six years to finish then
> another year to fix what I broke trying to fly it with minimal tail
> wheel experience, then another six years to get brave enough to try
> it again after getting the proper training.
>
> Today I am doing my on 4th annual condition inspection and enjoying
> every minute of it so much I can't hardly stand it.
>
> Anyhow on moving your kitfox. I used a rental Rider 24 foot van.
> That will probably be pretty expensive as you seem to be traveling
> much futher. You can probably do it much less cheap...er...
> inexpensive buying a boat trailer and using Lynn's photos for a
> guide. Transporting the wings leading edge down is the same as I did.
>
> Lynn, is that Jimmie in your photo? I had many conversations with
> him while I was building. Some extra parts from my Kit are now in
> your airplane. Bet you didn't know that.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering advice |
> What parts are those, Tom? Some of the parts that I got from Jimmie I
> didn't use....
It was some hard foam for the rudder gap seal and some intercostals and stuff for
an airfoil tail all labeled "Serries 5". Jimmie was wanting to make the airfoil
tail and was missing some parts so I sent them to him.
My kit is a Classic four but I think the old Skystary people just put all the extra
stuff they had left over on the shelves in the crate. I spent a lot of time
on the phone with skystar trying to convince them I did't have an engine cradle
or any fuel system parts at all for a classic four and trying to figure
out what a lot of the other stuff in the crate was.
By the way if anyone is wondering, these are not the current kitfox factory people.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | titan through the tree |
hay any body see the titan at oshkosh--go through a tree and survive?
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i guys, interested in your advice for moving my kitfox project. I am gettin
g ready to move down to Winston-Salem, NC from Elkton, MD.- I have a mode
l IV project that I wish to take with me.- The fuselage is covered and on
the gear, the wings are assembled but not mounted on the fuse, and the eng
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ourse I have a few boxes of various things.- =0A=0AI am wondering if it w
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about a week and a half, before I have to leave. I should have started on t
his a while ago, but getting ready to sell my house took up all my time.=0A
=0AI've found a few different trailers for sale locally on Craigslist, and
have access to a small mig welder if I need to make modifications.- I'm i
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