Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Thu 08/04/11


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:19 AM - Dropbox? (mscotter)
     2. 12:10 PM - Chicago TFR violation (Marco Menezes)
     3. 12:20 PM - sticking valve (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     4. 12:34 PM - Re: Chicago TFR violation (Lynn Matteson)
     5. 12:53 PM - Re: sticking valve (Patrick Reilly)
     6. 03:05 PM - KitFox Radial (Michael Kraus)
     7. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110804/news/708039771/ (Ron Liebmann)
     8. 04:27 PM - Re: Dropbox? (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
     9. 04:31 PM - Re: Chicago TFR violation (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    10. 04:43 PM - Re: Chicago TFR violation (Michael Kraus)
    11. 04:51 PM - Re: sticking valve (rtmarshall)
    12. 04:52 PM - Fw: Fw: Chicago TFR violation (Patrick Reilly)
    13. 04:55 PM - Re: Chicago TFR violation (Ron Liebmann)
    14. 05:00 PM - Fw: Fw: Chicago TFR violation (Patrick Reilly)
    15. 05:00 PM - Prop opinions (rtmarshall)
    16. 05:01 PM - Re: sticking valve (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    17. 05:02 PM - Re: Chicago TFR violation (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    18. 05:05 PM - Re: KitFox Radial (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    19. 05:30 PM - Re: KitFox Radial (Michael Kraus)
    20. 05:42 PM - Re: sticking valve (John)
    21. 05:52 PM - Re: Chicago TFR violation (Tom Jones)
    22. 07:02 PM - Re: KitFox Radial (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    23. 07:16 PM - Re: KitFox Radial (Michael Kraus)
    24. 07:32 PM - Re: sticking valve (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    25. 07:55 PM - Re: KitFox Radial (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:19:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Dropbox?
    From: "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net>
    Hey guys, whatever happened to the Kitfox dropbox? I think it was on Sportflight? The link I had for it doesn't work anymore, but as I recall it was a great repository of pictures of kitfoxes and their engines, modifications, accessories, etc. -Mark Scott -------- Mark Scott Elkton, MD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348583#348583


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    Time: 12:10:48 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Chicago TFR violation
    Anyone know who this intrepid Kitfox pilot might have been? I can picture F -16's "intercepting" a Model 2, but the "escorting" part would prove-prob lematic, methinks. ;-) - http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/6877801-417/small-plane-flying-out-of-s outh-barrington-intercepted-after-violating-obama-air-space.html - Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch Hersey, MI


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    Time: 12:20:05 PM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: sticking valve
    have recieved a suggestion for Marvel Mystery Oil from Lowell and will try some magic with this. spent a frustrating hour trying to log on to the Rotax Owners' site, then t ried to reregister, still no joy. have any of you had experience with sticking valves on the 912ul?=C2- Hap pened to me yesterday on startup causing a great deal of vibration until cu lprit finally loosened up and then the engine ran fine.=C2- Anyone know what Rotax recommends? John


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    Time: 12:34:47 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Chicago TFR violation
    Those F-16's wouldn't have stood a chance against a tight-turning, scud-running Model IV....much like the P-40's trying to out-turn a Zero. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1152 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Aug 4, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Marco Menezes wrote: > Anyone know who this intrepid Kitfox pilot might have been? I can > picture F-16's "intercepting" a Model 2, but the "escorting" part > would prove problematic, methinks. ;-) > > http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/6877801-417/small-plane-flying- > out-of-south-barrington-intercepted-after-violating-obama-air- > space.html > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch > Hersey, MI > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 12:53:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: sticking valve
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    John, I have never had a problem with valves sticking in my Rotax. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuilt Rockford, IL On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:17 PM, <kerrjohna@comcast.net> wrote: > have recieved a suggestion for Marvel Mystery Oil from Lowell and will > try some magic with this. > > > spent a frustrating hour trying to log on to the Rotax Owners' site, then > tried to reregister, still no joy. > > > have any of you had experience with sticking valves on the 912ul? Happened > to me yesterday on startup causing a great deal of vibration until culprit > finally loosened up and then the engine ran fine. > > > Anyone know what Rotax recommends? > > > John > > * > > * > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 03:05:29 PM PST US
    Subject: KitFox Radial
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Does anyone know what happened to the KitFox SuperSport with the radial? Saw a picture from Oshkosh this year with the same paint job and same N number but with a conventional cowling. Obviously the engine was removed and replaced. Anyone know why? I really liked the look of the radial on it, did it not perform well?? Just wondering..., -Mike Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 03:25:15 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110804/news/708039771/
    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110804/news/708039771/ Check out the Kitfox in this picture. Does anyone recognize it?


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    Time: 04:27:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dropbox?
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 6:16 am, mscotter wrote: > > Hey guys, whatever happened to the Kitfox dropbox? I think it was on Sportflight? > The link I had for it doesn't work anymore, but as I recall it was a great repository > of pictures of kitfoxes and their engines, modifications, accessories, etc. Matt maintains a photo sharing area: <http://www.matronics.com/photoshare> -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 04:31:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chicago TFR violation
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 12:08 pm, Marco Menezes wrote: > Anyone know who this intrepid Kitfox pilot might have been? I can picture F-16's > "intercepting" a Model 2, but the "escorting" part would proveproblematic, methinks. > ;-) > > http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/6877801-417/small-plane-flying-out-of-south-barrington-intercepted-after-violating-obama-air-space.html I'm biting my lip now. Comments could get ugly. -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 04:43:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chicago TFR violation
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    It says a "KitFox like this one" and that it is a "file photo", so I'm guessing that is not the one?!?!? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:29 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, August 4, 2011 12:08 pm, Marco Menezes wrote: >> Anyone know who this intrepid Kitfox pilot might have been? I can picture F-16's >> "intercepting" a Model 2, but the "escorting" part would prove problematic, methinks. >> ;-) >> >> http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/6877801-417/small-plane-flying-out-of-south-barrington-intercepted-after-violating-obama-air-space.html > > I'm biting my lip now. Comments could get ugly. > > -- > Paul A. Franz, P.E. > PAF Consulting Engineers > Office 425.440.9505 > Cell 425.241.1618 > > > >


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    Time: 04:51:06 PM PST US
    From: "rtmarshall" <rtav8or2@psln.com>
    Subject: Re: sticking valve
    Hey John, Might have been a plug that decided to start firing, flooded start? ours is starting to run and start easier after I changed all diaphragms and o' Rings in carbs. It would really shake until the plugs cleared. Ethanol caused major problems in fuel system.(previous Owner) Slowly making friends with foxy! Bob On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:17 PM, <kerrjohna@comcast.net> wrote: have recieved a suggestion for Marvel Mystery Oil from Lowell and will try some magic with this. spent a frustrating hour trying to log on to the Rotax Owners' site, then tried to reregister, still no joy. have any of you had experience with sticking valves on the 912ul? Happened to me yesterday on startup causing a great deal of vibration until culprit finally loosened up and then the engine ran fine. Anyone know what Rotax recommends? John 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 04:52:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Chicago TFR violation
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ron Liebmann <rliebmann@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Fwd: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation ** Yep....It was Bill Rose's wife Myrt in her blue & yellow Cub...... *From:* Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:46 PM *To:* Ron Liebmann <rliebmann@comcast.net> *Subject:* Fwd: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation Ron, This was in your neighborhood. Do you know this plane and pilot? Pat Reilly ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation Anyone know who this intrepid Kitfox pilot might have been? I can picture F-16's "intercepting" a Model 2, but the "escorting" part would prove problematic, methinks. ;-) http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/6877801-417/small-plane-flying-out-of-south-barrington-intercepted-after-violating-obama-air-space.html Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch Hersey, MI * * -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 04:55:41 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Chicago TFR violation
    Only 2 planes are based at that field. One is a yellow Chipmunk and the other is a yellow & blue J-3. I say it had to be the J-3. I live 3 miles from there and flew my Fox from there years ago. Ron N55KF -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation > <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> > > It says a "KitFox like this one" and that it is a "file photo", so I'm > guessing that is not the one?!?!? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:29 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> > wrote: > >> <paul@eucleides.com> >> >> >> On Thu, August 4, 2011 12:08 pm, Marco Menezes wrote: >>> Anyone know who this intrepid Kitfox pilot might have been? I can >>> picture F-16's >>> "intercepting" a Model 2, but the "escorting" part would prove >>> problematic, methinks. >>> ;-) >>> >>> http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/6877801-417/small-plane-flying-out-of-south-barrington-intercepted-after-violating-obama-air-space.html >> >> I'm biting my lip now. Comments could get ugly. >> >> -- >> Paul A. Franz, P.E. >> PAF Consulting Engineers >> Office 425.440.9505 >> Cell 425.241.1618 >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 05:00:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Chicago TFR violation
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    Guys, Ron, Liebman, a Kitfox owner that lives in that area says a J3 is based at that strip that is flown by the property owne'rs wife. Don't forget this is media reporting. Don't confuse what they report with the truth. "People that don't read the newspaoer are uninformed. And, people that read the newspaper are misinformed." Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuilt Rockford, IL ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ron Liebmann <rliebmann@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Fwd: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation ** Pat, I do not recognize the Kitfox that they are showing. The plane has to be a J-3 because that is what is based at Mill Rose. *From:* Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:19 PM *To:* Ron Liebmann <rliebmann@comcast.net> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation Ron, Was it a Kitfox or Cub? The report said Kitfox 2. Pat On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Ron Liebmann <rliebmann@comcast.net> wrote: > ** > Yep....It was Bill Rose's wife Myrt in her blue & yellow Cub...... > > *From:* Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:46 PM > *To:* Ron Liebmann <rliebmann@comcast.net> > *Subject:* Fwd: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation > > Ron, This was in your neighborhood. Do you know this plane and pilot? > > Pat Reilly > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Chicago TFR violation > To: "Matronics.com" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > > > Anyone know who this intrepid Kitfox pilot might have been? I can > picture F-16's "intercepting" a Model 2, but the "escorting" part would > prove problematic, methinks. ;-) > > > http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/6877801-417/small-plane-flying-out-of-south-barrington-intercepted-after-violating-obama-air-space.html > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch > Hersey, MI > > * > > * > > > -- > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford,IL > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 05:00:59 PM PST US
    From: "rtmarshall" <rtav8or2@psln.com>
    Subject: Prop opinions
    Hello all to fox flyers, Since we are still new to the kitfox and the learning curve very flat lots of minor issues pop up. I am asking for opinions on the props some of you are using, we have the model 4/1200 912 with a 68" GSC/ prop I would assume that others are using a different prop, what are you opinions your prop? The GSC is very difficult to adjust properly. Thanks every one, Bob &Toodie


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    Time: 05:01:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: sticking valve
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 12:17 pm, kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > have recieved a suggestion for Marvel Mystery Oil from Lowell and will try some magic > with this. Personally, I'm pretty leery of additives. "Top Oil" might do the trick but there's more to the story. One thing that comes to mind is discovering the cause. One cause is too long an oil change interval. Another serious one is lead fouling. If you use, for example Mobil 1 synthetic and get trapped into buying 100 LL you must immediately change the oil. > have any of you had experience with sticking valves on the 912ul? Happened to me > yesterday on startup causing a great deal of vibration until culprit finally loosened > up and then the engine ran fine. I would change the oil to an approved Synthetic such as Castrol Syntec as a first step. If that doesn't stop the problem completely after a couple of hours of engine operation and half a dozen or so cold starts, use only Mogas until the next oil change. You should be good for 50 hours of engine operation on an oil change. Probably more but for me 2 cents worth. 50 hours or 6 months is a good maximum, whichever comes first. Sticking valves and lifters stop sticking when you add a "Top Oil" within minutes. The gunk that is freed up, winds up in the oil filter as a noticeable slime. > Anyone know what Rotax recommends? They specifically recommend not using any oil additives. They also insist on using oils that are lead compatible if you use leaded gasoline such as 100 LL. So, change your oil and filter immediately. Use Castrol Syntec since it is widely available. Do not use Mobil 1 since it is not compatible with leaded gasoline. If that doesn't immediately solve your problem, try one of the Top Oils sold at NAPA. If it were mine and I had to use a sticky valve Top Oil treatment, I'd change the oil again well before the 50 hour interval. Hopefully, just an oil change and not using 100LL for a while will do the trick. -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 05:02:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chicago TFR violation
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 12:31 pm, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > Those F-16's wouldn't have stood a chance against a tight-turning, > scud-running Model IV....much like the P-40's trying to out-turn a > Zero. : ) F-16's have guns. They don't take no for an answer! -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 05:05:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: KitFox Radial
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 3:02 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: > > Does anyone know what happened to the KitFox SuperSport with the radial? Saw a > picture from Oshkosh this year with the same paint job and same N number but with a > conventional cowling. Obviously the engine was removed and replaced. Anyone know > why? I really liked the look of the radial on it, did it not perform well?? What is that N number? Easy enough to look up who owns it and give them a call. I'd like to hear what happened too. -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 05:30:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: KitFox Radial
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    N12KA.... Attached is a picture of it from Osh. It's the same N number as t he radial KitFox that was in Kitplanes magazine this past year..... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote : om> > > > On Thu, August 4, 2011 3:02 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: net> >> >> Does anyone know what happened to the KitFox SuperSport with the radial? Saw a >> picture from Oshkosh this year with the same paint job and same N number b ut with a >> conventional cowling. Obviously the engine was removed and replaced. An yone know >> why? I really liked the look of the radial on it, did it not perform wel l?? > > What is that N number? Easy enough to look up who owns it and give them a c all. > > I'd like to hear what happened too. > > -- > Paul A. Franz, P.E. > PAF Consulting Engineers > Office 425.440.9505 > Cell 425.241.1618 > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 05:42:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: sticking valve
    From: John <kerrjohna@comcast.net>
    Thanks all. No compression on subsequent pull through by hand. Occurrence was in fact on the flight that was meant to warm to oil for a too long delayed change. Will follow Paulson suggestion of running with the new oil for a couple of hours before using an additive. No 100LL for two years so lead sludge probably not the cause. Ben using a recommended Penzoil motorcycle oil. Will consider using a different oil next change John Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2011, at 5:58 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, August 4, 2011 12:17 pm, kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > >> have recieved a suggestion for Marvel Mystery Oil from Lowell and will try some magic >> with this. > > Personally, I'm pretty leery of additives. "Top Oil" might do the trick but there's > more to the story. > > One thing that comes to mind is discovering the cause. One cause is too long an oil > change interval. Another serious one is lead fouling. If you use, for example Mobil 1 > synthetic and get trapped into buying 100 LL you must immediately change the oil. > >> have any of you had experience with sticking valves on the 912ul? Happened to me >> yesterday on startup causing a great deal of vibration until culprit finally loosened >> up and then the engine ran fine. > > I would change the oil to an approved Synthetic such as Castrol Syntec as a first > step. If that doesn't stop the problem completely after a couple of hours of engine > operation and half a dozen or so cold starts, use only Mogas until the next oil > change. You should be good for 50 hours of engine operation on an oil change. Probably > more but for me 2 cents worth. 50 hours or 6 months is a good maximum, whichever comes > first. > > Sticking valves and lifters stop sticking when you add a "Top Oil" within minutes. The > gunk that is freed up, winds up in the oil filter as a noticeable slime. > >> Anyone know what Rotax recommends? > > They specifically recommend not using any oil additives. They also insist on using > oils that are lead compatible if you use leaded gasoline such as 100 LL. > > So, change your oil and filter immediately. Use Castrol Syntec since it is widely > available. Do not use Mobil 1 since it is not compatible with leaded gasoline. If that > doesn't immediately solve your problem, try one of the Top Oils sold at NAPA. If it > were mine and I had to use a sticky valve Top Oil treatment, I'd change the oil again > well before the 50 hour interval. > > Hopefully, just an oil change and not using 100LL for a while will do the trick. > > -- > Paul A. Franz, P.E. > PAF Consulting Engineers > Office 425.440.9505 > Cell 425.241.1618 > > > >


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    Time: 05:52:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chicago TFR violation
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    if you ever have an F16 come up off your left wing, rock his wings and make a slow turn to the left don't do anything but just follow him...chances are very good there is another one behind you. [Embarassed] -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348655#348655


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    Time: 07:02:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: KitFox Radial
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 5:26 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: > N12KA.... Attached is a picture of it from Osh. It's the same N number as the radial > KitFox that was in Kitplanes magazine this past year..... surprise surprise! N-number : N12KA Aircraft Serial Number : KA0706003 Aircraft Manufacturer : MCBEAN JOHN Model : KITFOX SUPER SPORT Engine Manufacturer : AMA/EXPR Model : UNKNOWN ENG Aircraft Year : 2010 Owner Name : MCBEAN JOHN B Owner Address : PO BOX 997 HOMEDALE, ID, 83628-0997 Type of Owner : Co-ownership Registration Date : 24-May-2010 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental Approved Operations : Amateur Built I don't know why I didn't remember that. I sure remember the photos. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, August 4, 2011 3:02 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know what happened to the KitFox SuperSport with the radial? Saw a >>> picture from Oshkosh this year with the same paint job and same N number but with a >>> conventional cowling. Obviously the engine was removed and replaced. Anyone know >>> why? I really liked the look of the radial on it, did it not perform well?? >> >> What is that N number? Easy enough to look up who owns it and give them a call. >> >> I'd like to hear what happened too. -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 07:16:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: KitFox Radial
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    But why did they swap out the radial?? -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, August 4, 2011 5:26 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: >> N12KA.... Attached is a picture of it from Osh. It's the same N number as the radial >> KitFox that was in Kitplanes magazine this past year..... > > surprise surprise! > > N-number : N12KA > Aircraft Serial Number : KA0706003 > Aircraft Manufacturer : MCBEAN JOHN > Model : KITFOX SUPER SPORT > Engine Manufacturer : AMA/EXPR > Model : UNKNOWN ENG > Aircraft Year : 2010 > Owner Name : MCBEAN JOHN B > Owner Address : PO BOX 997 > HOMEDALE, ID, 83628-0997 > Type of Owner : Co-ownership > Registration Date : 24-May-2010 > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental > Approved Operations : Amateur Built > > I don't know why I didn't remember that. I sure remember the photos. > > >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, August 4, 2011 3:02 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know what happened to the KitFox SuperSport with the radial? Saw a >>>> picture from Oshkosh this year with the same paint job and same N number but with a >>>> conventional cowling. Obviously the engine was removed and replaced. Anyone know >>>> why? I really liked the look of the radial on it, did it not perform well?? >>> >>> What is that N number? Easy enough to look up who owns it and give them a call. >>> >>> I'd like to hear what happened too. > > -- > Paul A. Franz, P.E. > PAF Consulting Engineers > Office 425.440.9505 > Cell 425.241.1618 > > > >


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    Time: 07:32:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: sticking valve
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 5:44 pm, John wrote: > > Thanks all. No compression on subsequent pull through by hand. Occurrence was in > fact on the flight that was meant to warm to oil for a too long delayed change. Will > follow Paulson suggestion of running with the new oil for a couple of hours before > using an additive. No 100LL for two years so lead sludge probably not the cause. Ben > using a recommended Penzoil motorcycle oil. Will consider using a different oil next > change John, Don't toss that drained oil. Take a good sample and get it analyzed. Be careful to not contaminate the sample. The best place and handiest is to get it analyzed by an Authorized Caterpillar Laboratory. There's only 4 of them in the US, I think. Go to any large highway truck dealer that services Cat engines and they will send it off to the lab. You'll get the results in about a week by e-mail. You'll know for sure if the oil failed and by what mechanism. You'll also know a very detailed list of contaminants and metals in the oil. The report will show the viscosity, the breakdown of viscosity, carbon fouling. I do it on every oil change on big trucks and of course, airplane engines. The cost of the analyses varies around the country but is about $24. There are other independent labs but I have a great deal of trust in the Caterpillar labs. Incidentally there are a few questions they ask so you have a running record for each engine. The want to know engine hours or miles and based on the analyses they will recommend a new oil change interval. The factory recommendation on Cat C-15 engines is 15,000 miles but after several oil changes, that has been advanced to 60,000 miles. In a diesel engine, soot fouling and viscosity increase are the main determining factors. They will even be able to tell you if your air filter is not functioning. That happened on one of our trucks - and induction air leak increased the amount of silicon in the oil and they offered the warning and subsequent checking found a loose hose. -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 07:55:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: KitFox Radial
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, August 4, 2011 7:13 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: > > But why did they swap out the radial?? > -Mike Kraus I don't know - let's ask him. John, How about telling us about the history of the radial in your KF? Any reason in particular that you've apparently changed it out? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:59 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, August 4, 2011 5:26 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: >>> N12KA.... Attached is a picture of it from Osh. It's the same N number as the >>> radial >>> KitFox that was in Kitplanes magazine this past year..... >> >> surprise surprise! >> >> N-number : N12KA >> Aircraft Serial Number : KA0706003 >> Aircraft Manufacturer : MCBEAN JOHN >> Model : KITFOX SUPER SPORT >> Engine Manufacturer : AMA/EXPR >> Model : UNKNOWN ENG >> Aircraft Year : 2010 >> Owner Name : MCBEAN JOHN B >> Owner Address : PO BOX 997 >> HOMEDALE, ID, 83628-0997 >> Type of Owner : Co-ownership >> Registration Date : 24-May-2010 >> Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental >> Approved Operations : Amateur Built >> >> I don't know why I didn't remember that. I sure remember the photos. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, August 4, 2011 3:02 pm, Michael Kraus wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know what happened to the KitFox SuperSport with the radial? Saw a >>>>> picture from Oshkosh this year with the same paint job and same N number but with >>>>> a >>>>> conventional cowling. Obviously the engine was removed and replaced. Anyone >>>>> know >>>>> why? I really liked the look of the radial on it, did it not perform well?? >>>> >>>> What is that N number? Easy enough to look up who owns it and give them a call. >>>> >>>> I'd like to hear what happened too. >> >> -- -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618




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