Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Fri 08/26/11


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:45 AM - A flight to Belgium (Michel)
     2. 01:57 AM - Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt (Herbert R Gottelt)
     3. 04:08 AM - Re: A flight to Belgium (Fox5flyer)
     4. 05:40 AM - Re: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt (Ron Liebmann)
     5. 07:04 AM - Re: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt (Lowell Fitt)
     6. 07:13 AM - Re: A flight to Belgium (Lowell Fitt)
     7. 07:27 AM - Re: A flight to Belgium (Marco Menezes)
     8. 08:01 AM - Sugar Springs fly-in (Marco Menezes)
     9. 08:17 AM - Re: Sugar Springs fly-in (Michael Kraus)
    10. 09:36 AM - tricycle conversion (Dave G)
    11. 09:55 AM - North East fly-in (Dorsal)
    12. 10:50 AM - Re: tricycle conversion (dave)
    13. 10:56 AM - Re: Sugar Springs fly-in (Lynn Matteson)
    14. 11:01 AM - Re: North East fly-in (Lynn Matteson)
    15. 11:22 AM - Re: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt (rtmarshall)
    16. 12:12 PM - Re: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt (Jim Crowder)
    17. 01:19 PM - Re: Re: tricycle conversion (Dave)
    18. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: tricycle conversion (Lowell Fitt)
    19. 02:49 PM - Re: tricycle conversion (Tommy Walker)
    20. 03:28 PM - Re: North East fly-in (Tex Mantell)
    21. 04:53 PM - Re: Sugar Springs fly-in (Lynn Matteson)
    22. 06:30 PM - Re: Re: tricycle conversion (Lowell Fitt)
    23. 07:14 PM - Re: Sugar Springs fly-in (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:45:34 AM PST US
    Subject: A flight to Belgium
    From: "Michel" <michel@online.no>
    Hello guys, Here is a youTube video I made with my iPhone from my trip to Belgium, last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcylNG-klDs Here is something I don't talk much about: As I flew toward Germany, above the Danish island of Fyn, I was down at 500 ft AGL and met a barrier of rain. Asking ATC to advice, they told me that the nearby airport of Odense (the native town of H.C. Christiansen) had still clear weather. So I flew there, not being prepared for it. Once there, the tower cleared me for runway 06 with wind 120 at 14 knots. So, I came on final on a slight side slip to counter the crosswind. I then flare and being very near stall speed, I realize that this runway is huge! 1,600 meters long and 40 meters wide and what I saw in the corner of my eyes, was not correct; I was still a few meters above the ground! Being stressed with the aborted flight plan and the diversion, I pushed the throttle to avoid stalling that high. In the process, I forgot about the crosswind and once on the ground, the wind lifted my right wing and after a second in balance on the left wheel, I slightly touched the ground with my left drooping winglet. Only a tiny cosmetic damage; a few millimeters of fiberglass shaved away. It was the first time it happened to me after roughly 500 hours with my Kitfox. The only thing is that the guy in the tower saw me and made some comments! ... :-) Cheers, Michel -------- Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350608#350608


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    Time: 01:57:01 AM PST US
    From: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt
    =0AI am in a hurry writing this mail. I had a trip to London United Kingdom with my family on a =0Ashort vacation . Unfortunately for us all our money got stolen at the ho tel where we lodged =0Afrom the attack of some armed robbers and since then we have been=0Awith out any money we are even owing the hotel here,So i have only=0Aaccess to e mails,our mobile phone can't work here so i did not bring it=0Aalong. Pleas e can you lend me =A31,570 so i can return back and settle=0Athe hotel bill s i would return it back to you as soon as i get home, I=0Aam so confused r ight now. You can have it sent through western union on=0Athe name on my pa ssport and present location below . =0A =0AName:Herbert Gottelt =0AAddress:Milltown Rd, Shaw's Bridge =0ACity: Belfast,ZIP Code: BT8 7XP =0ACountry:London United Kingdom =0A =0AAs soon as it is done keep me posted with the western union transfer det ails if you are =0Aheading to western union get back to me let me know . =0A =0A- Herbert Gottelt.


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    Time: 04:08:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A flight to Belgium
    From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    No worries, mate. Most of us have experienced something similar in our flying lives, but were lucky enough that nobody was watching. Deke NE Michigan Michel wrote: > Hello guys, > Here is a youTube video I made with my iPhone from my trip to Belgium, last week: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcylNG-klDs > > Here is something I don't talk much about&#058; > As I flew toward Germany, above the Danish island of Fyn, I was down at 500 ft AGL and met a barrier of rain. Asking ATC to advice, they told me that the nearby airport of Odense (the native town of H.C. Christiansen) had still clear weather. So I flew there, not being prepared for it. Once there, the tower cleared me for runway 06 with wind 120 at 14 knots. So, I came on final on a slight side slip to counter the crosswind. I then flare and being very near stall speed, I realize that this runway is huge! 1,600 meters long and 40 meters wide and what I saw in the corner of my eyes, was not correct; I was still a few meters above the ground! Being stressed with the aborted flight plan and the diversion, I pushed the throttle to avoid stalling that high. In the process, I forgot about the crosswind and once on the ground, the wind lifted my right wing and after a second in balance on the left wheel, I slightly touched the ground with my left drooping winglet. Only a tiny cosmetic damage; a few millimeters of fiberglass shaved away. It was the first time it happened to me after roughly 500 hours with my Kitfox. The only thing is that the guy in the tower saw me and made some comments! ... :-) > > Cheers, > Michel -------- Deke Morisse Kitfox S5 TD NSI/CAP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350615#350615


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    Time: 05:40:20 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt
    Herb, Who else in 790 own a Kitfox? Just verifying that it is really you? From: Herbert R Gottelt Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:53 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt I am in a hurry writing this mail. I had a trip to London United Kingdom with my family on a short vacation . Unfortunately for us all our money got stolen at the hotel where we lodged from the attack of some armed robbers and since then we have been without any money we are even owing the hotel here,So i have only access to emails,our mobile phone can't work here so i did not bring it along. Please can you lend me =A31,570 so i can return back and settle the hotel bills i would return it back to you as soon as i get home, I am so confused right now. You can have it sent through western union on the name on my passport and present location below . Name:Herbert Gottelt Address:Milltown Rd, Shaw's Bridge City: Belfast,ZIP Code: BT8 7XP Country:London United Kingdom As soon as it is done keep me posted with the western union transfer details if you are heading to western union get back to me let me know . Herbert Gottelt.


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    Time: 07:04:49 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt
    Sorry, I think Herb's email got hacked. If I were there, I wouldn't have a clue how to put the pound sign on an email and some of the phrasing sounds strangely un American English, then again if he is in London, what good would it do to send the money to Belfast. I did a Google Earth on both halves of the address and got two separate location - one strangely In Ireland, the other a non specific location in London. The zip code is positive for Ireland. Herb, if this is really you, try the American Embassy. I doubt this has never happened before, and there has to be procedures in place to handle these things. Lowell From: Ron Liebmann Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:37 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt Herb, Who else in 790 own a Kitfox? Just verifying that it is really you? From: Herbert R Gottelt Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:53 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt I am in a hurry writing this mail. I had a trip to London United Kingdom with my family on a short vacation . Unfortunately for us all our money got stolen at the hotel where we lodged from the attack of some armed robbers and since then we have been without any money we are even owing the hotel here,So i have only access to emails,our mobile phone can't work here so i did not bring it along. Please can you lend me =A31,570 so i can return back and settle the hotel bills i would return it back to you as soon as i get home, I am so confused right now. You can have it sent through western union on the name on my passport and present location below . Name:Herbert Gottelt Address:Milltown Rd, Shaw's Bridge City: Belfast,ZIP Code: BT8 7XP Country:London United Kingdom As soon as it is done keep me posted with the western union transfer details if you are heading to western union get back to me let me know . Herbert Gottelt. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 07:13:10 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: A flight to Belgium
    Michel, Good report. I often see the drooped tips with symmetrical "adjustments" on the bottom rear edge. That is one of the rarely mentioned benefits of that tip style and if the fly on the wall could speak, likely planned for that exact purpose. Odense is an ancestral home, at least for a fourth part - father's mother. I have a chart of that area, thanks to one of your countrymen. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michel" <michel@online.no> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: A flight to Belgium > > Hello guys, > Here is a youTube video I made with my iPhone from my trip to Belgium, > last week: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcylNG-klDs > > Here is something I don't talk much about: > As I flew toward Germany, above the Danish island of Fyn, I was down at > 500 ft AGL and met a barrier of rain. Asking ATC to advice, they told me > that the nearby airport of Odense (the native town of H.C. Christiansen) > had still clear weather. So I flew there, not being prepared for it. Once > there, the tower cleared me for runway 06 with wind 120 at 14 knots. So, I > came on final on a slight side slip to counter the crosswind. I then flare > and being very near stall speed, I realize that this runway is huge! 1,600 > meters long and 40 meters wide and what I saw in the corner of my eyes, > was not correct; I was still a few meters above the ground! Being stressed > with the aborted flight plan and the diversion, I pushed the throttle to > avoid stalling that high. In the process, I forgot about the crosswind and > once on the ground, the wind lifted my right wing and after a second in > balance on the left wheel, I slightly touched the ground with my left > drooping winglet. Only a tiny cosme! > tic damage; a few millimeters of fiberglass shaved away. It was the first > time it happened to me after roughly 500 hours with my Kitfox. The only > thing is that the guy in the tower saw me and made some comments! ... :-) > > Cheers, > Michel > > -------- > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350608#350608 > > >


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    Time: 07:27:17 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: A flight to Belgium
    Thanks for the wondeful video travel log Michel! So glad to see that you ar e flying again!=0A-=0A-=0AMarco Menezes N99KX=0AModel 2 582-90 C-Box w/ clutch=0AHersey, Michigan=0A=0AFrom: Michel <michel@online.no>=0ATo: kitfox -list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:42 AM=0ASubject: Kitf l" <michel@online.no>=0A=0AHello guys,=0AHere is a youTube video I made wit h my iPhone from my trip to Belgium, last week:=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com /watch?v=rcylNG-klDs=0A=0AHere is something I don't talk much about:=0AAs I flew toward Germany, above the Danish island of Fyn, I was down at 500 f t AGL and met a barrier of rain. Asking ATC to advice, they told me that th e nearby airport of Odense (the native town of H.C. Christiansen) had still clear weather. So I flew there, not being prepared for it. Once there, the tower cleared me for runway 06 with wind 120 at 14 knots. So, I came on fi nal on a slight side slip to counter the crosswind. I then flare and being very near stall speed, I realize that this runway is huge! 1,600 meters lon g and 40 meters wide and what I saw in the corner of my eyes, was not corre ct; I was still a few meters above the ground! Being stressed with the abor ted flight plan and the diversion, I pushed the throttle to avoid stalling that high. In the process, I forgot about the crosswind and once on the gro und, the wind lifted my right wing and after a second in balance on the lef t wheel, I slightly touched the ground with my left drooping winglet. Only a tiny cosme!=0Atic damage; a few millimeters of fiberglass shaved away. It was the first time it happened to me after roughly 500 hour s with my Kitfox. The only thing is that the guy in the tower saw me and ma de some comments! ... :-)=0A=0ACheers,=0AMichel=0A=0A--------=0AKitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.m -========================


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    Time: 08:01:11 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Sugar Springs fly-in
    Any Michigan Kitfoxers going to BBQ fly-in at Sugar Springs Resort (0MI1) t omorrow?=0A-=0AMarco Menezes N99KX=0AModel 2 582-90 C-Box w/clutch=0AHers ey, MI


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    Time: 08:17:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sugar Springs fly-in
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    I may be going in my RV-10... But not until about 12:30 or 1 pm. I own two lots midway down the runway, always wanted to build there but probably neve r will...... -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> wrote: > Any Michigan Kitfoxers going to BBQ fly-in at Sugar Springs Resort (0MI1) t omorrow? > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2 582-90 C-Box w/clutch > Hersey, MI > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 09:36:02 AM PST US
    From: "Dave G" <d.goddard@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: tricycle conversion
    I emailed the factory and confirmed that a nose wheel conversion is available for my Model IV - 1050. It's pricey enough to discourage me for just now but I might follow up in a few months. Has anyone actually tried and flown a Model IV with the tricycle gear? I understand I be giving up landing on sandbars, farmers fields, and all sorts of out of the way places. I can live with all that. I would be interested in how the nose wheel affects flight, eases landings etc. Just for info.


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    Time: 09:55:12 AM PST US
    Subject: North East fly-in
    From: "Dorsal" <dorsal61@yahoo.com>
    For those who might be interested we are planning a Kitfox fly-in at 4N7 (Greene just north of Binghamton NY) on the weekend of 9/10. Please chime in if you think you might be able make it, details to follow. -------- Dorsal Series 7 Flying 912S Warp Drive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350644#350644


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    Time: 10:50:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: tricycle conversion
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Dave, I have flown a Trigear Mod 2 and since then converted it to a taildragger for the owner. Plane handles excellent on the ground but you could go off the runway if you decide to not steer it. ( lazy feet) I do not think the owner will change it back and he a low time pilot. You seem to have some reservation on your Kitfox -- 582 not trusted now taildragger not right. My current Mod IV I have over 2000 hours on it on 582 alone and never had a engine failure. Kitfox are a great, fun airplane and they are what you make of it. I have over 200 videos on youtube and the Kitfox is a blast. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ http://www.kitfoxflyer.com/ http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350646#350646


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    Time: 10:56:21 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Sugar Springs fly-in
    I might, but I've got a memorial service to fly to at 4:00 pm, so time might get in the way. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1162 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Marco Menezes wrote: > Any Michigan Kitfoxers going to BBQ fly-in at Sugar Springs Resort > (0MI1) tomorrow? > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2 582-90 C-Box w/clutch > Hersey, MI > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 11:01:26 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: North East fly-in
    Dorsal, my friend- I might have to pass on that one, but I did get the $129 version of Pilot My-Cast (like you did) on my new Smart Phone! Yes, send details... Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1163 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Dorsal wrote: > > For those who might be interested we are planning a Kitfox fly-in > at 4N7 (Greene just north of Binghamton NY) on the weekend of 9/10. > Please chime in if you think you might be able make it, details to > follow. > > -------- > Dorsal > Series 7 Flying > 912S Warp Drive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350644#350644 > >


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    Time: 11:22:46 AM PST US
    From: "rtmarshall" <rtav8or2@psln.com>
    Subject: Re: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt
    You are right Lowell, this is someone trying to scam money from our group! Do not send any money!!! Toodie & Bob Marshall new owner 4/1200 From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:01 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt Sorry, I think Herb's email got hacked. If I were there, I wouldn't have a clue how to put the pound sign on an email and some of the phrasing sounds strangely un American English, then again if he is in London, what good would it do to send the money to Belfast. I did a Google Earth on both halves of the address and got two separate location - one strangely In Ireland, the other a non specific location in London. The zip code is positive for Ireland. Herb, if this is really you, try the American Embassy. I doubt this has never happened before, and there has to be procedures in place to handle these things. Lowell From: Ron Liebmann Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:37 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt Herb, Who else in 790 own a Kitfox? Just verifying that it is really you? From: Herbert R Gottelt Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:53 AM To: undisclosed recipients: Subject: Kitfox-List: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt I am in a hurry writing this mail. I had a trip to London United Kingdom with my family on a short vacation . Unfortunately for us all our money got stolen at the hotel where we lodged from the attack of some armed robbers and since then we have been without any money we are even owing the hotel here,So i have only access to emails,our mobile phone can't work here so i did not bring it along. Please can you lend me =A31,570 so i can return back and settle the hotel bills i would return it back to you as soon as i get home, I am so confused right now. You can have it sent through western union on the name on my passport and present location below . Name:Herbert Gottelt Address:Milltown Rd, Shaw's Bridge City: Belfast,ZIP Code: BT8 7XP Country:London United Kingdom As soon as it is done keep me posted with the western union transfer details if you are heading to western union get back to me let me know . Herbert Gottelt. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 12:12:52 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Crowder" <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net>
    Subject: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt
    This is a scam. A son of a friend of ours had a similar one from England. We received a copy and found he was not even in England. Beware. Jim Crowder From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herbert R Gottelt Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:54 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Family Holiday.......... Herbert Gottelt I am in a hurry writing this mail. I had a trip to London United Kingdom with my family on a short vacation . Unfortunately for us all our money got stolen at the hotel where we lodged from the attack of some armed robbers and since then we have been without any money we are even owing the hotel here,So i have only access to emails,our mobile phone can't work here so i did not bring it along. Please can you lend me =A31,570 so i can return back and settle the hotel bills i would return it back to you as soon as i get home, I am so confused right now. You can have it sent through western union on the name on my passport and present location below . Name:Herbert Gottelt Address:Milltown Rd, Shaw's Bridge City: Belfast,ZIP Code: BT8 7XP Country:London United Kingdom As soon as it is done keep me posted with the western union transfer details if you are heading to western union get back to me let me know . Herbert Gottelt.


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    Time: 01:19:29 PM PST US
    From: "Dave " <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: tricycle conversion
    I wouldn't say I have reservations as such. My 582 works quite well, but I have not had enough hours behind it to allow me to completely dismiss all the horror stories people like to tell. As far as the tricycle gear goes, I am having a little trouble learning to cope with the tailwheel on landing and am a little frustrated. The plane flies fine and any landing problem are with me not the aircraft. OTOH two of the major differences between this and the little Cessna I used to rent are tailwheel and the screaming little motor, I'm still coming to grips with both of them. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave > Sent: August-26-11 2:46 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: tricycle conversion > > > Dave, > > I have flown a Trigear Mod 2 and since then converted it to a > taildragger for the owner. > > Plane handles excellent on the ground but you could go off > the runway if you decide to not steer it. ( lazy feet) > > I do not think the owner will change it back and he a low time pilot. > > > You seem to have some reservation on your Kitfox -- 582 not > trusted now taildragger not right. My current Mod IV I have > over 2000 hours on it on 582 alone and never had a engine > failure. Kitfox are a great, fun airplane and they are what > you make of it. > > I have over 200 videos on youtube and the Kitfox is a blast. > > -------- > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada > http://www.cfisher.com/ > http://www.kitfoxflyer.com/ > http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ > Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter > from the truth http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350646#350646 > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > >


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    Time: 02:41:45 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: tricycle conversion
    Dave, the Kitfox is notoriously squirrely on landing. For the most part, I believe because the bungee gear comes from the factory seriously toed in. I checked my new to me 1992 gear and it was toed in almost three degrees per side. This gear had never been on an airplane and was in new out of the box condition. Toed in is very destabilizing especially on roll out. I might suggest that you check the wheel alignment and if toed in use the muscle method to tweak the gear into alignment and see if it helps. It is a much less expensive and simpler trick than replacing the engine mount and adding the nose gear. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave " <occom@ns.sympatico.ca> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: tricycle conversion > > I wouldn't say I have reservations as such. My 582 works quite well, but > I > have not had enough hours behind it to allow me to completely dismiss all > the horror stories people like to tell. As far as the tricycle gear goes, > I > am having a little trouble learning to cope with the tailwheel on landing > and am a little frustrated. The plane flies fine and any landing problem > are > with me not the aircraft. OTOH two of the major differences between this > and > the little Cessna I used to rent are tailwheel and the screaming little > motor, I'm still coming to grips with both of them. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave >> Sent: August-26-11 2:46 PM >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: tricycle conversion >> >> >> Dave, >> >> I have flown a Trigear Mod 2 and since then converted it to a >> taildragger for the owner. >> >> Plane handles excellent on the ground but you could go off >> the runway if you decide to not steer it. ( lazy feet) >> >> I do not think the owner will change it back and he a low time pilot. >> >> >> You seem to have some reservation on your Kitfox -- 582 not >> trusted now taildragger not right. My current Mod IV I have >> over 2000 hours on it on 582 alone and never had a engine >> failure. Kitfox are a great, fun airplane and they are what >> you make of it. >> >> I have over 200 videos on youtube and the Kitfox is a blast. >> >> -------- >> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada >> http://www.cfisher.com/ >> http://www.kitfoxflyer.com/ >> http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ >> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter >> from the truth http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350646#350646 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Photoshare, and much much more: >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 02:49:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: tricycle conversion
    From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
    Excuse me for butting in.... I know nothing! (As Shultz used to say) about tail draggers, but I noticed in the Kitfox catalog they sell some shims to correct that problem. Or at least that's what it looked like to me. Tommy Walker in Alabama Do Not Archive..... [quote="dave.go"]I emailed the factory and confirmed that a nose wheel conversion is available for my Model IV - 1050. It's pricey enough to discourage me for just now but I might follow up in a few months. Has anyone actually tried and flown a Model IV with the tricycle gear? I understand I be giving up landing on sandbars, farmers fields, and all sorts of out of the way places. I can live with all that. I would be interested in how the nose wheel affects flight, eases landings etc. Just for info. > [b] -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350673#350673


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    Time: 03:28:12 PM PST US
    From: Tex Mantell <wb2ssj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: North East fly-in
    Will attend with two model 4 kitfoxs Tex Sent from my iPod On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:51 PM, "Dorsal" <dorsal61@yahoo.com> wrote: > > For those who might be interested we are planning a Kitfox fly-in at 4N7 (Greene just north of Binghamton NY) on the weekend of 9/10. Please chime in if you think you might be able make it, details to follow. > > -------- > Dorsal > Series 7 Flying > 912S Warp Drive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350644#350644 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:53:50 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Sugar Springs fly-in
    I'm heading out for SSR/0MI1 about 9 am, Marco. I plan on getting there a bit before the 11am start, and get outta Dodge about 1pm. Still want to make the memorial get-together for a fallen aviator (cancer)...but I'm sure he'd understand if I don't make it back in time. : ) By the way the WX shows a 30% chance of t'storms sometime tomorrow for Gladwin, but this is Michigan, right? What else would we expect? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1163 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Marco Menezes wrote: > Any Michigan Kitfoxers going to BBQ fly-in at Sugar Springs Resort > (0MI1) tomorrow? > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2 582-90 C-Box w/clutch > Hersey, MI > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 06:30:43 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: tricycle conversion
    Tommy, You are correct providing the airplane has either the Grove aluminum spring gear or their new Bush Gear with the bolt on axles. The original factory gear came with a welded tube that the axle is inserted into and fastened with a single bolt through the butt end. The only way to correct the alignment on these gear legs is to secure the airplane solid and muscle them into alignment with brute force. It can be done. Denney in the old days wrote an article on it in the Kitrox Times, their quarterly builders newsletter. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: tricycle conversion > > Excuse me for butting in.... > > I know nothing! (As Shultz used to say) about tail draggers, but I noticed > in the Kitfox catalog they sell some shims to correct that problem. Or at > least that's what it looked like to me. > > Tommy Walker in Alabama > Do Not Archive..... > > [quote="dave.go"]I emailed the factory and confirmed that a nose wheel > conversion is available for my Model IV - 1050. It's pricey enough to > discourage me for just now but I might follow up in a few months. Has > anyone actually tried and flown a Model IV with the tricycle gear? I > understand I be giving up landing on sandbars, farmers fields, and all > sorts of out of the way places. I can live with all that. I would be > interested in how the nose wheel affects flight, eases landings etc. Just > for info. >> [b] > > > -------- > Tommy Walker > N8701 - Anniston, AL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350673#350673 > > >


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    Time: 07:14:16 PM PST US
    From: "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.net>
    Subject: Sugar Springs fly-in
    Guys I'm jealous, I love to see the videos and hear of the events that everyone is heading to, it keeps me going, have fun and be safe!! I was hoping to be in the air by mid-summer but it is going to be more like late fall at the earliest. I look forward to being able to attend some fly-ins next year. If anyone is interested our EAA Chapter 439 will be having our Annual "Ford Airport Days" on Sept 17th. Our event theme for this year is "The Year of the Builder" we will have our event poster on our website soon at www.eaa439.org would love to see a Kitfox or 2 there. Lloyd Cudnohufsky Mod 5 Rebuild 912 IVO IFA Northern Mi. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sugar Springs fly-in I'm heading out for SSR/0MI1 about 9 am, Marco. I plan on getting there a bit before the 11am start, and get outta Dodge about 1pm. Still want to make the memorial get-together for a fallen aviator (cancer)...but I'm sure he'd understand if I don't make it back in time. : ) By the way the WX shows a 30% chance of t'storms sometime tomorrow for Gladwin, but this is Michigan, right? What else would we expect? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1163 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Marco Menezes wrote: > Any Michigan Kitfoxers going to BBQ fly-in at Sugar Springs Resort > (0MI1) tomorrow? > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2 582-90 C-Box w/clutch > Hersey, MI > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ===========================================================




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