---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/05/11: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:42 AM - Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Lynn Matteson) 2. 04:11 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (dave) 3. 05:11 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Paul A. Franz, P.E.) 4. 07:22 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Pete Christensen) 5. 07:28 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Lowell Fitt) 6. 07:44 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Lynn Matteson) 7. 07:46 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Lynn Matteson) 8. 07:51 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Pete Christensen) 9. 08:00 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (dave) 10. 08:07 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Lowell Fitt) 11. 09:05 AM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Kitfox Guy) 12. 12:14 PM - Re: Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Stan Specht) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:42:01 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any followups. I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive Begin forwarded message: > From: Google Alerts > Date: September 4, 2011 4:23:56 PM GMT-04:00 > To: lynnmatt@jps.net > Subject: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft > > News1 new result for kitfox aircraft > > Caldwell airplane crash kills 2 > Houston Chronicle > He identified the airplane as a Kitfox, a popular single-engine > airplane kit assembled by owners. The Federal Aviation > Administration classifies such ... > > Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query > to match them exactly. Learn more. > > Delete this alert. > Create another alert. > Manage your alerts. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:31 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft From: "dave" Sad news - 2 dead. Looks like a Ser 7 owned by below -- no idea on anything else. Serial Number S 70302022 Type Registration Individual Manufacturer Name VEATCH JAMES F Certificate Issue Date 11/29/2007 Model KITFOX-7 Expiration Date 03/31/2013 Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Status Valid Pending Number Change None Type Engine Reciprocating Date Change Authorized None Dealer No MFR Year 2008 Mode S Code 52022762 Fractional Owner NO Registered Owner Name VEATCH JAMES F Street 504 MT DAVIDSON CT City CLAYTON State CALIFORNIA County CONTRA COSTA Zip Code 94517-1602 Country UNITED STATES Airworthiness Engine Manufacturer ROTAX Classification Experimental Engine Model 912ULS Category Amateur Built A/W Date 09/26/2008 -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ http://www.kitfoxflyer.com/ http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351449#351449 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." On Mon, September 5, 2011 2:39 am, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any followups. > I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? Looking at the wreckage it would appear that the registration number is N624JS. N-number : N624JS Aircraft Serial Number : S 70302022 Aircraft Manufacturer : VEATCH JAMES F Model : KITFOX-7 Engine Manufacturer : ROTAX Model : 912ULS Aircraft Year : 2008 Owner Name : VEATCH JAMES F Owner Address : 504 MT DAVIDSON CT CLAYTON, CA, 94517-1602 Type of Owner : Individual Registration Date : 29-Nov-2007 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental Approved Operations : Amateur Built -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft From: Pete Christensen I do not have further knowledge, but we had very high winds in central, Tx. yesterday. (+/- 30 mph) On my way to Sun n Mud this year I landed @ Caldwell (70 mi E of here) and as I recall the runway is 50'wide. I made an x wind landing there in the strongest x wind I've ever landed in and it wasn't pretty. Used all 50'. Pete Leander, TX Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any followups. I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Google Alerts >> Date: September 4, 2011 4:23:56 PM GMT-04:00 >> To: lynnmatt@jps.net >> Subject: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft >> >> News1 new result for kitfox aircraft >> >> Caldwell airplane crash kills 2 >> Houston Chronicle >> He identified the airplane as a Kitfox, a popular single-engine airplane kit assembled by owners. The Federal Aviation Administration classifies such ... >> >> Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query to match them exactly. Learn more. >> >> Delete this alert. >> Create another alert. >> Manage your alerts. > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:49 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft Just made a phone call and it was a Series 7 with a California couple on board. The story is that it was a stall spin within the boundaries of Caldwell airport. This is sobering, guys. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 2:39 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft > > Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any followups. I > guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since > 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Google Alerts >> Date: September 4, 2011 4:23:56 PM GMT-04:00 >> To: lynnmatt@jps.net >> Subject: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft >> >> News1 new result for kitfox aircraft >> >> Caldwell airplane crash kills 2 >> Houston Chronicle >> He identified the airplane as a Kitfox, a popular single-engine airplane >> kit assembled by owners. The Federal Aviation Administration classifies >> such ... >> >> Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query to >> match them exactly. Learn more. >> >> Delete this alert. >> Create another alert. >> Manage your alerts. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:54 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft Pete- The original article.... ********* Caldwell airplane crash kills 2 Houston Chronicle He identified the airplane as a Kitfox, a popular single-engine airplane kit assembled by owners. ********** .....listed the dateline as Caldwell, Idaho, not Texas. Because of the Kitfox factory fly-in at Caldwell, Idaho being this weekend, I was wondering if this crash was related. Now the question is, did the Houston Chronicle newspaper get the dateline wrong, or did this unfortunate accident actually happen in Texas? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 5, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Pete Christensen wrote: > > > I do not have further knowledge, but we had very high winds in > central, Tx. yesterday. (+/- 30 mph) On my way to Sun n Mud this > year I landed @ Caldwell (70 mi E of here) and as I recall the > runway is 50'wide. I made an x wind landing there in the strongest > x wind I've ever landed in and it wasn't pretty. Used all 50'. > > Pete > Leander, TX > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > >> >> Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any >> followups. I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >> Jabiru 2200, #2062 >> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) >> Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since >> 3-27-2006) >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Google Alerts >>> Date: September 4, 2011 4:23:56 PM GMT-04:00 >>> To: lynnmatt@jps.net >>> Subject: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft >>> >>> News1 new result for kitfox aircraft >>> >>> Caldwell airplane crash kills 2 >>> Houston Chronicle >>> He identified the airplane as a Kitfox, a popular single-engine >>> airplane kit assembled by owners. The Federal Aviation >>> Administration classifies such ... >>> >>> Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query >>> to match them exactly. Learn more. >>> >>> Delete this alert. >>> Create another alert. >>> Manage your alerts. >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:14 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft So it WAS Caldwell, Idaho? At the factory fly-in? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 5, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > > > Just made a phone call and it was a Series 7 with a California > couple on board. The story is that it was a stall spin within the > boundaries of Caldwell airport. This is sobering, guys. > > Lowell > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Lynn Matteson" > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 2:39 AM > To: > Subject: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft > >> >> Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any >> followups. I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly- >> in? >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >> Jabiru 2200, #2062 >> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) >> Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since >> 3-27-2006) >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Google Alerts >>> Date: September 4, 2011 4:23:56 PM GMT-04:00 >>> To: lynnmatt@jps.net >>> Subject: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft >>> >>> News1 new result for kitfox aircraft >>> >>> Caldwell airplane crash kills 2 >>> Houston Chronicle >>> He identified the airplane as a Kitfox, a popular single-engine >>> airplane kit assembled by owners. The Federal Aviation >>> Administration classifies such ... >>> >>> Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your >>> query to match them exactly. Learn more. >>> >>> Delete this alert. >>> Create another alert. >>> Manage your alerts. >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft From: Pete Christensen Oops! Wrong state. Sorry. Pete Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Pete Christensen wrote: > > I do not have further knowledge, but we had very high winds in central, Tx. yesterday. (+/- 30 mph) On my way to Sun n Mud this year I landed @ Caldwell (70 mi E of here) and as I recall the runway is 50'wide. I made an x wind landing there in the strongest x wind I've ever landed in and it wasn't pretty. Used all 50'. > > Pete > Leander, TX > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > >> >> Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any followups. I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >> Jabiru 2200, #2062 >> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) >> Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1170 hrs (since 3-27-2006) >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Google Alerts >>> Date: September 4, 2011 4:23:56 PM GMT-04:00 >>> To: lynnmatt@jps.net >>> Subject: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft >>> >>> News1 new result for kitfox aircraft >>> >>> Caldwell airplane crash kills 2 >>> Houston Chronicle >>> He identified the airplane as a Kitfox, a popular single-engine airplane kit assembled by owners. The Federal Aviation Administration classifies such ... >>> >>> Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query to match them exactly. Learn more. >>> >>> Delete this alert. >>> Create another alert. >>> Manage your alerts. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:22 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft From: "dave" Really sucks to read about preventable accidents. I been saying for years Stall / spin training is not taught well enough Sad day in aviation yet again. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ http://www.kitfoxflyer.com/ http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351470#351470 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:49 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft Hey, guys, this really hurts. And Yes, he was at the fly-in. I knew Jim and talked with him there. He was based in Rio Vista, CA and flew up here to Cameron Park in January with a friend for a visit. His wife is Sheila. I imagine lots of folks are hurting right now. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 5:07 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft > > > > On Mon, September 5, 2011 2:39 am, Lynn Matteson wrote: >> >> Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any followups. >> I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? > > Looking at the wreckage > > it would appear that the registration number is N624JS. > > N-number : N624JS > Aircraft Serial Number : S 70302022 > Aircraft Manufacturer : VEATCH JAMES F > Model : KITFOX-7 > Engine Manufacturer : ROTAX > Model : 912ULS > Aircraft Year : 2008 > Owner Name : VEATCH JAMES F > Owner Address : 504 MT DAVIDSON CT > CLAYTON, CA, 94517-1602 > Type of Owner : Individual > Registration Date : 29-Nov-2007 > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental > Approved Operations : Amateur Built > > -- > Paul A. Franz, P.E. > PAF Consulting Engineers > Office 425.440.9505 > Cell 425.241.1618 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:10 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft From: "Kitfox Guy" http://www.idahopress.com/news/small-plane-crash-kills/article_b146efdc-d781-11e0-bde1-001cc4c03286.html -------- Michael Meyers KF IV - Cont. 0-200 N598BM L67 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351478#351478 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:14:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft From: Stan Specht Jim and Sheila were dear friends of mine. I always looked forward to seeing them at our Kitfox fly-ins. I chatted with them quite some time on Saturda y afternoon, and I'll miss those future conversations that will go unfulfil led. We learned of their demise just before I departed Homedale on Sunday m orning for my return flight to Denver. May they rest in peace. Stan Specht -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2011 5:07 am Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft Hey, guys, this really hurts. And Yes, he was at the fly-in. I knew Jim an d talked with him there. He was based in Rio Vista, CA and flew up here to Cameron Park in January with a friend for a visit. His wife is Sheila. I imagine lots of folks are hurting right now. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 5:07 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft > > > > On Mon, September 5, 2011 2:39 am, Lynn Matteson wrote: >> >> Does anybody know anything about this? I haven't seen any followups. >> I guessing it had something to do with the factory fly-in? > > Looking at the wreckage > > it would appear that the registration number is N624JS. > > N-number : N624JS > Aircraft Serial Number : S 70302022 > Aircraft Manufacturer : VEATCH JAMES F > Model : KITFOX-7 > Engine Manufacturer : ROTAX > Model : 912ULS > Aircraft Year : 2008 > Owner Name : VEATCH JAMES F > Owner Address : 504 MT DAVIDSON CT > CLAYTON, CA, 94517-1602 > Type of Owner : Individual > Registration Date : 29-Nov-2007 > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental > Approved Operations : Amateur Built > > -- > Paul A. 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