Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Thu 11/24/11


Total Messages Posted: 4



Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 05:59 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox 2 (Malcolm Brubaker)
     2. 08:37 AM - airspeed (Ed Gray)
     3. 10:12 AM - Re: airspeed (Michael Gibbs)
     4. 07:07 PM - Re: Kitfox 2 (mikeperkins)
 
 
 


Message 1


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 05:59:33 AM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 2
    i agree with walter analog tack are very un reliable.=0A-- prop tweking is almost an art in its self.=0Amal=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMich igan Sport Pilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022=0A =0A=0A________________________ ________=0A From: dave <dave@cfisher.com>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:48 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Re: K =0A=0AWalter,- how do you know that you are actually- turning 6100 rpm ?=0A=0AOnly tach I would trust is a tiny tach- ==analog ones are not dependable.=0AI have a 2 here- --- 75- cruise -- not faired- but op timized prop. this is on- 21"- tires=0A=0Amy- mod 4- 58=0A=0A2 crui se- is- 90 to 92 on- kingfox- tires- 21"=0A=0A--------=0ARealtime Kitfox movies to separate- the internet- chatter from the truth=0Ahttp ://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer=0AHundreds of Kitfox Movies =0AMost vie wed Kitfox on youtube=0AMost popular on youtube=0AHighest rated on youtube =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.co ===============


    Message 2


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 08:37:43 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Gray" <egraylaw@swbell.net>
    Subject: airspeed
    Walter, my Model II , 582, GSC cruises at 77 or 78 at 5500. All struts and gear are faired and I have the radiator scoop. My tail feathers are enlarged to Mod. 4 Speedster dimensions but no wheel pants. Try the fairings and radiator scoop and you will see 10-15 mph increase. Its not meant to be fast, but why not clean up some of the drag. I also have the leading edge cuff from Kitfox, I think that cleans the wing up some. Ed Gray k2 582 Dallas do not archive


    Message 3


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 10:12:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: airspeed
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    When I added a radiator scoop to my model IV-1200 I didn't notice that much difference in speed but maybe messing with it some would have yielded better results. The big payoff items seemed to be strut fairings and wheel pants. The strut fairings were built-in during construction but the wheel pants were added after it was flying for a while and they made a dramatic difference. Mike G. Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster Phoenix, AZ


    Message 4


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:07:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 2
    From: "mikeperkins" <michael.perkins@rauland.com>
    The wisest counsel that could be offered is to suggest that before you start tweaking your prop pitch, watch the EAA webinar Is Your Two Stroke Engine About to Fail?. The link for it is: http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=626943072001 The webinar explains just how easy it is to overload the engine with incorrect pitching and how unreliable an engine immediately becomes when it is overloaded. It is also possible to underload an engine, also with detrimental effects. Before changing anything in the engine or prop, its important to know just what your EGTs are in all phases of flight slow cruise, fast cruise, descent, cruise-climb, and Vx climb. An accurate EGT is your best friend when it comes to knowing how reliable your engine will be, as is an accurate tach. I have a Kitfox Model I that I finished in 1994. Its 532 with B gearbox and a three-blade 66" GSC prop has run for 375 hours with minimal maintenance. Pistons, cylinders, and rings are currently all nominal. I replaced the rings at 100 hours because they were stuck tight, probably from using synthetic oil which I no longer use. Full-throttle static RPM in 60-degree temps varies from 5800 to 6100 (one variable in static RPM readings is the windspeed towards the prop). Full-throttle climb at Vx is between 6500 and 6700. For cruise, I set the RPM at 5800 - 6000, which gives me about 72 MPH TAS. My airframe has the optional lift-strut fairings, but that is all. I know that I could coarsen-up the prop pitch, but Im also aware that the engine would soon become overloaded. Ive set the combination of the carb needles and the prop pitch to make the EGTs read about 1100 in cruise, 900s at full-power in climb. It is important to have two things before repitching your prop: an accurate tach and an accurate dual EGT. The EGT probes need to be located at the correct distance from the piston skirts, which I believe is 4. If you are unsure about the accuracy of the EGT in any way, Id strongly advise getting a new one you have to be able to trust it absolutely. Tachometer calibration is also important. Some EAA chapters and A/P mechanics have remote-reading tachometers (based on a photocell that remotely senses the frequency of the blade-passings), and borrowing one can help you discover if your tach is reading correctly. Im stressing the value of accurate EGT and tach because Im aware of how often they are inaccurate and also how their inaccuracy can cause an owner to make his engine less reliable rather than more reliable. Watch the webinar - it's very valuable. Mike Perkins EAA TC/FA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359142#359142




    Other Matronics Email List Services

  • Post A New Message
  •   kitfox-list@matronics.com
  • UN/SUBSCRIBE
  •   http://www.matronics.com/subscription
  • List FAQ
  •   http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm
  • Web Forum Interface To Lists
  •   http://forums.matronics.com
  • Matronics List Wiki
  •   http://wiki.matronics.com
  • 7-Day List Browse
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list
  • Browse Kitfox-List Digests
  •   http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list
  • Browse Other Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse
  • Live Online Chat!
  •   http://www.matronics.com/chat
  • Archive Downloading
  •   http://www.matronics.com/archives
  • Photo Share
  •   http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
  • Other Email Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
  • Contributions
  •   http://www.matronics.com/contribution

    These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.

    -- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --