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1. 03:25 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 (Lynn Matteson)
2. 05:06 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 (Malcolm Brubaker)
3. 06:05 AM - Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 (bjones@dmv.com)
4. 07:38 AM - Re: Where Have the Models Gone? (Jon Ferguson)
5. 07:56 AM - Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 (Lowell Fitt)
6. 09:42 AM - Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 (Guy Buchanan)
7. 10:27 AM - Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 (Lowell Fitt)
8. 03:12 PM - Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 (rtmarshall)
9. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: Tygon tubing 5/16 id (Joel Mapes)
10. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: Tygon tubing 5/16 id (Mike Chaney)
11. 09:23 PM - Re: Re: Crossing Lake MI (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 |
C'mon, Dan.....you've got nothing but water under you for up to an
hour, and given the problems that you and I have had with engines
(and as for me, running out of fuel), is it worth taking the chance?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with 1215 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
do not archive
On Jan 11, 2012, at 9:29 PM, dj45 wrote:
> stanton1@comcast.net>
>
> And the problem with crossing Lake Michigan is???
>
> --------
> Do not archive
>
> Dan Stanton
> N801S CH 801
> N226BS CH701
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363117#363117
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 |
my budy flew the big lake 5 times in a drifter w/ a 503 and lodis floats. h
e spends moor time flying over land with floats on than water sometimes. he
did get lost over the lake once no compus.--ended up turning north for
a while had to land in 6ft swells and re fuel almost died but made it. re
fueled with the motor running. I herd the roul is 50 minuts in 50% water an
d you have a 50 50 chance of dying. -=0A=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
=0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker
=0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022=0A =0A=0A_________________
_______________=0A From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list
@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:21 AM=0ASubject: Re: K
itfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12=0A =0A--> Kitfox-Lis
t message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>=0A=0AC'mon, Dan.....y
ou've got nothing but water under you for up to an- =0Ahour, and given th
e problems that you and I have had with engines- =0A(and as for me, runni
ng out of fuel), is it worth taking the chance?=0A=0ALynn Matteson=0AKitfox
IV Speedster, taildragger=0AJabiru 2200, #2062=0APrince prop 64 x 30, P-ti
p=0AElectroair direct-fire ignition system=0ARotec TBI-40 injection (sleeve
d to 36mm)=0AStatus: flying with 1215 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)=0Ado not arc
hive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Jan 11, 2012, at 9:29 PM, dj45 wrote:=0A=0A> --> Kitf
ox-List message posted by: "dj45" <daniel- =0A> stanton1@comcast.net>=0A>
=0A> And the problem with crossing Lake Michigan is???=0A>=0A> --------=0A>
Do not archive=0A>=0A> Dan Stanton=0A> N801S CH 801=0A> N226BS CH701=0A>
=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A> http://forums.matroni
cs.com/viewtopic.php?p=363117#363117=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 |
I replaced all hoses and installed an in-line water temp sending unit per
Rotax/Lockwood suggestions, and about 30 hours later had to retighten
clamps because of very slight coolant loss. I never saw signs of coolant
on any pipe, hose, clamp, but retightening the clamps did the trick.
As an aside, the in-line water temp is a bit HIGHER than the CHT mounted
reading, even when gauges and sending units are switched, so an error in
sending units, cables and gauges is not the cause. I use UMA gauges and
matched sending units.
BJ
Kitfox IV with early S/N Rotax 912 80 hp
> Hi John, The problem that I think I will have is that the coolant tank
> radiator cap is about 1/2 the size of a standard cap. I know of a great
> radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made
> exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that
> may have a cap this size, I am not totally toast yet, but I am losing
> small amounts of coolant and it could be that all the air is not out of
> the system yet, as I changed to dextron which has seemed to help but it is
> 16 to 24 * F up here so it is hard to tell at this point, I thought I
> would toss a new cap on just for grins but the old one certainly looks
> good at the moment. Thanks for everybody's help once again. This is the
> older 912. Bob
> Toodie & Bob Marshall
> Beckwourth, CA
> KF/4/1200 flying
> From: John W. Hart
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:30 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
>
>
> After a little research, found that the 912 uses a pressure of 1.2 bar
> for the radiator cap. 1.2 bars is equivalent to 17.4 pound per square
> inches.
>
>
> 18 psi caps by Stant are available from amazon.com:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10234-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000B8JUG6
>
>
> 17 psi caps are also available from amazon.com:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10251-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000C8226K
>
>
> I'd try one of these rater than shelling out $80. May be that your
> local auto parts store can get one for you without the shipping charge.
>
>
> John Hart
>
> KFIV
>
> Wilburton, OK
>
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rtmarshall
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:25 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> Happy New Year!
>
>
> We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they
> want $80 for one radiator cap!!
>
>
> Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?
>
>
> Thanks Bob
>
>
> Toodie & Bob Marshall
> Beckwourth, CA
> KF/4/1200 flying
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where Have the Models Gone? |
Thats a beauty Tom!
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Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 |
John, this note reminds me that in the day the gasket would
occasionally leak and someone came up with an automotive replacement.
It was from a Mercedes, I believe. I can't find my reference. Maybe
someone else has the info.
Lowell
From: rtmarshall
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
Hi John, The problem that I think I will have is that the coolant tank
radiator cap is about 1/2 the size of a standard cap. I know of a great
radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made
exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car
that may have a cap this size, I am not totally toast yet, but I am
losing small amounts of coolant and it could be that all the air is not
out of the system yet, as I changed to dextron which has seemed to help
but it is 16 to 24 * F up here so it is hard to tell at this point, I
thought I would toss a new cap on just for grins but the old one
certainly looks good at the moment. Thanks for everybody's help once
again. This is the older 912. Bob
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
From: John W. Hart
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:30 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
After a little research, found that the 912 uses a pressure of 1.2 bar
for the radiator cap. 1.2 bars is equivalent to 17.4 pound per square
inches.
18 psi caps by Stant are available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10234-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000B8JUG6
17 psi caps are also available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10251-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000C8226K
I'd try one of these rater than shelling out $80. May be that your
local auto parts store can get one for you without the shipping charge.
John Hart
KFIV
Wilburton, OK
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rtmarshall
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:25 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
Hi All,
Happy New Year!
We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and
they want $80 for one radiator cap!!
Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?
Thanks Bob
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
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| Subject: | Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 |
On 1/12/2012 7:52 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> this note reminds me that in the day the gasket would occasionally
> leak and someone came up with an automotive replacement. It was from
> a Mercedes, I believe. I can't find my reference. Maybe someone else
> has the info.
Lowell,
Are you thinking of the Mercedes gas cap gasket?
*_Guy Buchanan_*
Assistant Scoutmaster -- Troop 680
760.809.6145
gebuchanan@cox.net <mailto:gebuchanan@cox.net>
www.troop680.org
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| Subject: | Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 |
Guy,
Thanks for that. I guess it is a little of the senior moment thing.
Gas cap - radiator cap, all the same to me. Now if my wife was home,
she could help me find the project I'm working on.
Lowell
From: Guy Buchanan
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
On 1/12/2012 7:52 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
this note reminds me that in the day the gasket would occasionally
leak and someone came up with an automotive replacement. It was from a
Mercedes, I believe. I can't find my reference. Maybe someone else has
the info.
Lowell,
Are you thinking of the Mercedes gas cap gasket?
Guy Buchanan
Assistant Scoutmaster - Troop 680
760.809.6145
gebuchanan@cox.net
www.troop680.org
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| Subject: | Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 |
Hey thanks Guy.
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
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From: Guy Buchanan
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:01 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
On 1/11/2012 8:50 PM, rtmarshall wrote:
I know of a great radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this
gold plated beauty made exclusively for Rotax and there probably is
some smaller German car that may have a cap this size,
Hey my Acura has a teeny tiny radiator cap. I'll check it tomorrow.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
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| Subject: | Re: Tygon tubing 5/16 id |
Not sure about other colors=2C but the yellow is translucent=2C so fuel flo
w is visible. Here is a link to a source on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000PHF152/ref=asc_df_B000PHF1521858085?smid=A
TVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN
=B000PHF152
Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: Tygon tubing 5/16 id |
I switched to the yellow tubing a few years ago.- I also used this tubing
for my sight gauge.- I found it difficult to see the fuel level so-I p
urchased two fuel gauge floating balls from I think Univair and placed them
in the sight guage.- It works pretty good.- One problem was that the b
alls were too large for the inside diameter of the tubing.- I had to file
/sand the balls down to the correct size.- I know what some of you are th
inking, I have too much time on my hands.=0A=0AMike=0A =0A=0A______________
__________________=0A From: Joel Mapes <foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com>=0ATo: ki
tfox-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:04 PM=0ASubje
ct: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Tygon tubing 5/16 id=0A =0A=0A =0A-=0A-=0ANot
sure about other colors, but the yellow is translucent, so fuel flow is vi
sible. Here is a link to a source on Amazon.=0Ahttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00
0PHF152/ref=asc_df_B000PHF1521858085?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20
&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B000PHF152=0A-=0A=0AJoel
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing Lake MI |
On Wed, January 11, 2012 6:29 pm, dj45 wrote:
>
> And the problem with crossing Lake Michigan is???
Very cold water and lots of it.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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