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1. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Crossing Lake MI (Marco Menezes)
2. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 (Marco Menezes)
3. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 (Michael Gibbs)
4. 06:35 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 (Lowell Fitt)
5. 07:31 PM - changes in EAA? (Malcolm Brubaker)
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing Lake MI |
Amen that brother!
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-box 3:1 w/clutch
Hersey, MI
On Jan 13, 2012, at 8:15 AM, JOSE PACHECO <n1915lc23@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Also your ears become well tuned to all the noises the engine makes,inclu
ding the emaginary ones.
> From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Crossing Lake MI
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> On Wed, January 11, 2012 6:29 pm, dj45 wrote:
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> > And the problem with crossing Lake Michigan is???
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> Very cold water and lots of it.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 |
2 round trips to OSH, crossing Lake Michigan at its narrowest point from Cap
e Sable, MI to Manitowoc, WI. Not more than 30 minutes over water each way a
nd in contact with lake reporting service the entire time. For me it shaves h
ours off the trip. Risky? Perhaps but some might argue no more so than 30 mi
nutes in the pattern at your favorite airport.
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-box 3:1 w/clutch
Hersey, MI
On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marco, Did you cross Lake MI?
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> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
> Rockford, IL
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> wrote
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> For starters, you can see fuel flowing from the wing tanks through tygon. I
t's a comforting sight at 9K feet above lake Michigan. 2 bucks a foot seems s
teep though. Can't you buy it by the foot from ACS?
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> Marco Menezes N99KX
> Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch
> Hersey, MI
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> From: napierm <napierm@cisco.com>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:34 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12
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> Hey Joel,
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> Couple of questions:
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> Why is the Tygon any better than Gates Barricade or similar vapor blocking
> hoses?
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> Is the cost of the Tygon really $2 per foot? If so, you wanted it badly
> enough to be willing to buy a whole roll. What's so good about it?
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> Thanks,
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> Mark
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> > 1. 08:15 PM - Tygon tubing 5/16 id (Joel)
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> > Time: 08:15:01 PM PST US
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Tygon tubing 5/16 id
> > From: "Joel" <foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com>
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> > Kitfoxers,
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> > I've located some yellow Tygon fuel line for my model 5, but had to buy a
full
> > roll of it. I'm selling eight foot lengths, enough for both wings to t
he
> > header
> > tank lines for $20 with pre-paid shipping anywhere in the U.S. My old f
uel
> > line was getting brittle and made wing folding problematic.
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> > Joel Mapes
> > foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com
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> > Kitfox V 912ULS
> > Full Lotus 1650s this summer!
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 |
Flying is all about risk management. Risk can be avoided, mitigated
or ignored (i.e., go around the lake, wear an exposure suit, or rely
on the probability of having trouble over the water being very, very
small).
You have to admit, though, Marco, that crashing next to your home
airport there's probably help nearby and they typically can get to
you quickly. And you'll be able to breathe while waiting for them.
With average water temperatures in the 40F-50F range, if you end up
in the drink you'll only last about 30-60 minutes before you are
exhausted and/or unconscious--any rescue will have to be there before
that happens.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
>2 round trips to OSH, crossing Lake Michigan at its narrowest point
>from Cape Sable, MI to Manitowoc, WI. Not more than 30 minutes over
>water each way and in contact with lake reporting service the entire
>time. For me it shaves hours off the trip. Risky? Perhaps but some
>might argue no more so than 30 minutes in the pattern at your
>favorite airport.
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>Marco Menezes N99KX
>Model 2 582-90 C-box 3:1 w/clutch
>Hersey, MI
>
>On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Patrick Reilly
><<mailto:patreilly43@gmail.com>patreilly43@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Marco, Did you cross Lake MI?
>>
>>Pat Reilly
>>Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
>>Rockford, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12 |
This bit of wisdom reminds me of the question my wife asked when we did our
emergency landing that destroyed our airplane and put both of us in the
hospital. We were less than fifteen minutes out of Cameron Park in the
foothills of the Sierras on our way to Idaho for the factory fly-in. The
question, " What would have happened if we had had to put the airplane down
30 minutes later. Well we were on the ground less than a mile from EMTs at
a fire station. A sheriffs deputy was on scene within five minutes. Thirty
minutes later we would have been over the Desolation Wilderness just West of
Lake Tahoe. If lucky, a back packer on scene within an hour. No advice
offered, but I suppose the risk management might be a little tighter next
time. Within a month or so of flying the New Model IV.
Lowell
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From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/09/12
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> Flying is all about risk management. Risk can be avoided, mitigated or
> ignored (i.e., go around the lake, wear an exposure suit, or rely on the
> probability of having trouble over the water being very, very small).
>
> You have to admit, though, Marco, that crashing next to your home airport
> there's probably help nearby and they typically can get to you quickly.
> And you'll be able to breathe while waiting for them. With average water
> temperatures in the 40F-50F range, if you end up in the drink you'll only
> last about 30-60 minutes before you are exhausted and/or unconscious--any
> rescue will have to be there before that happens.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
> Phoenix, AZ
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>>2 round trips to OSH, crossing Lake Michigan at its narrowest point from
>>Cape Sable, MI to Manitowoc, WI. Not more than 30 minutes over water each
>>way and in contact with lake reporting service the entire time. For me it
>>shaves hours off the trip. Risky? Perhaps but some might argue no more so
>>than 30 minutes in the pattern at your favorite airport.
>>
>>Marco Menezes N99KX
>>Model 2 582-90 C-box 3:1 w/clutch
>>Hersey, MI
>>
>>On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Patrick Reilly
>><<mailto:patreilly43@gmail.com>patreilly43@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Marco, Did you cross Lake MI?
>>>
>>>Pat Reilly
>>>Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
>>>Rockford, IL
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Hey Folks:
The EAA canned a bunch of people today. Some reports suggest 35 were
let go. A press release is full of wall-street corporate gobblygook
about "capturing opportunities in its long term strategic plan" and
that sort of thing. I'm pretty certain that we will continue to see
the EAA look more and more like the NBAA and AOPA. More of the stuff
that I really could care less about, and fewer of the people and
airplanes that make my world go around.
Oh well, nothing new, really.
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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