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1. 06:00 AM - wig wag reco lights (Catz631@aol.com)
2. 04:13 PM - Low Fuel Warning (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky)
3. 05:40 PM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (Lowell Fitt)
4. 05:44 PM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (jdmcbean)
5. 05:59 PM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (Guy Buchanan)
6. 06:00 PM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (Guy Buchanan)
7. 10:28 PM - Fight in C-182 (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
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| Subject: | wig wag reco lights |
I just installed my Aero Leds Micro Sun lights on my struts of my Fox 4.
Now I can be seen from a long way away ! I have had a few close calls with
Navy helo's here in the Pensacola,Fl area so this should improve my
visibility a bit. They are SUPER bright !
I can only capture one flash at a time with my camera.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Low Fuel Warning |
Well, with the help of this group I've been able to work through the
charging issue on my Model 5 Outback and actually get the maiden voyage in
the history books, long story short on the charging issue I had 2 problems,
the first was that the Kuntzleman Hotbox I have in my Kitfox is a custom
order and is not wired internally the same as a standard Hotbox, finally
figured that out by working with Mr. Kuntzleman, he was very helpful and
quickly helped me identify the problem. My second problem was as Pete had
suggested, the Voltage Regulator was toast, no doubt because I did not
realize I had a custom Hotbox and wired it incorrectly.
So with that behind me and the weather cooperating here in the UP I made the
maiden voyage, and discovered my next challenge. The flight was uneventful
other than the Low Fuel Warning Light started to flicker on and off, so I
made one loop around the patch and landed. Since I have aircraft aluminum
fuel lines from the butt ribs to the header tank I thought perhaps the
flexible fuel lines between the butt rib and the tank might be getting
pinched, so I swung the wings back and checked them, shortening them up a
bit and tried it again, once I rotated and was up about 4' the light came on
again, so I aborted.
I am running two 13 gal wing tanks into a 2 gal header tank behind the seat.
Flex line from the tanks to the butt ribs and Aeroquip fittings and fuel
line from the butt ribs to the header tanks, no filters in line. The low
fuel warning sensor is a Carlo Gavazzi VP03 and it is new. I have done
sustained run ups on the ground at 4500 RPM with no flickering of the light.
Any thoughts, appreciated.
Lloyd Cudnohufsky
Model 5 Outback 912ul IVO IFA
Northern Mi.
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| Subject: | Re: Low Fuel Warning |
My guess is that in the run between the tank outlet and the hard lines,
you have an uphill run. It has been mentioned in the past several
times, that an up hill run will trap a bubble and restrict fuel flow.
Lowell
From: Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Low Fuel Warning
Well, with the help of this group I've been able to work through the
charging issue on my Model 5 Outback and actually get the maiden voyage
in the history books, long story short on the charging issue I had 2
problems, the first was that the Kuntzleman Hotbox I have in my Kitfox
is a custom order and is not wired internally the same as a standard
Hotbox, finally figured that out by working with Mr. Kuntzleman, he was
very helpful and quickly helped me identify the problem. My second
problem was as Pete had suggested, the Voltage Regulator was toast, no
doubt because I did not realize I had a custom Hotbox and wired it
incorrectly. So with that behind me and the weather cooperating here in
the UP I made the maiden voyage, and discovered my next challenge. The
flight was uneventful other than the Low Fuel Warning Light started to
flicker on and off, so I made one loop around the patch and landed.
Since I have aircraft aluminum fuel lines from the butt ribs to the
header tank I thought perhaps the flexible fuel lines between the butt
rib and the tank might be getting pinched, so I swung the wings back and
checked them, shortening them up a bit and tried it again, once I
rotated and was up about 4' the light came on again, so I aborted. I am
running two 13 gal wing tanks into a 2 gal header tank behind the seat.
Flex line from the tanks to the butt ribs and Aeroquip fittings and fuel
line from the butt ribs to the header tanks, no filters in line. The low
fuel warning sensor is a Carlo Gavazzi VP03 and it is new. I have done
sustained run ups on the ground at 4500 RPM with no flickering of the
light. Any thoughts, appreciated. Lloyd CudnohufskyModel 5 Outback
912ul IVO IFANorthern Mi.
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| Subject: | Low Fuel Warning |
Lloyd,
Congrats on the maiden voyage !!!
Most likely you have one or two issues.
1 Air in the top of the header tank.. not unusual to
have trapped air in the top of the header tank that hasn't found a way out
yet and it is tripping the light sensor. It takes some time for the air to
get out on a new aircraft.
2 It is a light sensor. sunlight can and does get into
the area and trips the sensor.. assuming a PE tank. If it is an aluminum
tank that would not be the case. Some have tried painting or wrapping the
PE tank to keep sunlight out.
Again Congrats !!
Fly Safe !!
John McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd & Lorrie
Cudnohufsky
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Low Fuel Warning
Well, with the help of this group I've been able to work through the
charging issue on my Model 5 Outback and actually get the maiden voyage in
the history books, long story short on the charging issue I had 2 problems,
the first was that the Kuntzleman Hotbox I have in my Kitfox is a custom
order and is not wired internally the same as a standard Hotbox, finally
figured that out by working with Mr. Kuntzleman, he was very helpful and
quickly helped me identify the problem. My second problem was as Pete had
suggested, the Voltage Regulator was toast, no doubt because I did not
realize I had a custom Hotbox and wired it incorrectly.
So with that behind me and the weather cooperating here in the UP I made the
maiden voyage, and discovered my next challenge. The flight was uneventful
other than the Low Fuel Warning Light started to flicker on and off, so I
made one loop around the patch and landed. Since I have aircraft aluminum
fuel lines from the butt ribs to the header tank I thought perhaps the
flexible fuel lines between the butt rib and the tank might be getting
pinched, so I swung the wings back and checked them, shortening them up a
bit and tried it again, once I rotated and was up about 4' the light came on
again, so I aborted.
I am running two 13 gal wing tanks into a 2 gal header tank behind the seat.
Flex line from the tanks to the butt ribs and Aeroquip fittings and fuel
line from the butt ribs to the header tanks, no filters in line. The low
fuel warning sensor is a Carlo Gavazzi VP03 and it is new. I have done
sustained run ups on the ground at 4500 RPM with no flickering of the light.
Any thoughts, appreciated.
Lloyd Cudnohufsky
Model 5 Outback 912ul IVO IFA
Northern Mi.
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| Subject: | Re: Low Fuel Warning |
On 2/6/2012 5:41 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
>
> 1 Air in the top of the header tank.. not unusual to have trapped air
> in the top of the header tank that hasn't found a way out yet and it
> is tripping the light sensor. It takes some time for the air to get
> out on a new aircraft.
>
Any time I drain the header it takes a flight or two to get the bubbles
out, and I have good uphill runs on all my lines. I just fly around the
patch looking for a constant on. If the low fuel stays on solid I land.
Hasn't happened yet. (Except the couple of times I really DID run out of
fuel.)
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
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| Subject: | Re: Low Fuel Warning |
On 2/6/2012 4:10 PM, Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky wrote:
> Any thoughts, appreciated.
Oh, and by the way. Love your plane. Looks great and it looks like you
did a meticulous job on it.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
Do not archive.
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Here's a nice set of photos with pretty good written descriptions. It's a flight
in
the SF Bay Area out to Napa.
Not much to do with a Kitfox but according to Matt's guidelines, I'm sneaking it
in
under the guise of camraderie. :)
<http://www.couperus.org/Albums/Napa/>
All those crumbling cliffs with homes being swallowed by the ocean are pretty
dramatic. Seems to me to be an unusually clear day.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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