---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/07/12: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:10 AM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (Fox5flyer) 2. 08:39 AM - Re: Fight in C-182 (Lowell Fitt) 3. 10:21 AM - Re: Fight in C-182 (Kitfox Guy) 4. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: Fight in C-182 (rtmarshall) 5. 03:46 PM - Re: wig wag reco lights (kirk hull) 6. 04:21 PM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:10 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Low Fuel Warning From: "Fox5flyer" [quote="lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net"]My guess is that in the run between the tank outlet and the hard lines, you have an uphill run. It has been mentioned in the past several times, that an up hill run will trap a bubble and restrict fuel flow. Lowell All of the suggestions are good ones, Lloyd. The fact that you only get the low fuel warning is on takeoff possibly indicates that the airplane goes from tail down to level flight and with the movement, any air in the header is moving around and setting off the sensor. When I had a PE tank (now aluminum) after maintenance I always had to rock the wings for quite a long time before I was able to get the air bubbles out, sometimes as much as ten minutes. Of course, I had clear lines and was able to see when the bubbles stopped coming. A very common cause, already mentioned, was light shining through the (PE) header tank which is easily cured by painting it blank or temporarily wrapping it in a black plastic trash bag. Those light sensors are very sensitive. Nice job on those fuel lines and the airplane looks great. Good luck, Deke S5 in NE Michigan (Mikado) No Snow! -------- Deke Morisse Kitfox S5 TD NSI/CAP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365794#365794 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:11 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fight in C-182 Paul, I appreciate the heads-up to this link. This is my home turf. Many of the sites are familiar to me especially the Sunset District of SF where I lived wile going to UCSF where I got my degree. I flew this route once to get some video. I have some video of the SF waterfront and the Mothball Fleet while the Battle Ship Iowa was there. Thanks, Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:24 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Fight in C-182 > > > Here's a nice set of photos with pretty good written descriptions. It's a > flight in > the SF Bay Area out to Napa. > > Not much to do with a Kitfox but according to Matt's guidelines, I'm > sneaking it in > under the guise of camraderie. :) > > > All those crumbling cliffs with homes being swallowed by the ocean are > pretty > dramatic. Seems to me to be an unusually clear day. > > -- > Paul A. Franz, P.E. > PAF Consulting Engineers > Office 425.440.9505 > Cell 425.241.1618 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:26 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fight in C-182 From: "Kitfox Guy" Thanks for the memories, I use to live in the Bay Area and the pics brought back many fond memories of flights around the Bay. -------- Michael Meyers KF IV - Cont. 0-200 N598BM L67 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365811#365811 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:47 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fight in C-182 Us too! Thanks for the memories, such great shots! Flew gliders in the '50's off Mission Peak then out in Livermore! Toodie and Bob Marshall Beckwourth, CA KF/4/1200 flying -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kitfox Guy" Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:18 AM Thanks for the memories, I use to live in the Bay Area and the pics brought back many fond memories of flights around the Bay. -------- Michael Meyers KF IV - Cont. 0-200 N598BM L67 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365811#365811 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:47 PM PST US From: "kirk hull" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: wig wag reco lights Do you mind if I post the first pic on my website? I am trying to get more kitfox's on is www.sportflight.net. If you don't mind can you answer the following questions for the data base N# ____________ Location / airport taken____________ www.sportflight.net _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catz631@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:56 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: wig wag reco lights I just installed my Aero Leds Micro Sun lights on my struts of my Fox 4. Now I can be seen from a long way away ! I have had a few close calls with Navy helo's here in the Pensacola,Fl area so this should improve my visibility a bit. They are SUPER bright ! I can only capture one flash at a time with my camera. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:13 PM PST US From: "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Low Fuel Warning Guys, Thanks for the responses, this is encouraging news and fits my accounts. During the first flight I noticed the light only flickering halfway around the pattern, prior to that I had done some taxi work and allot of run ups to temp. After the first flight I folded the wings back to check the flexible hoses trying to address what I felt might be a fuel flow issue. Then on the second flight as I rotated I got a solid light, probably because I introduced air when I folded the wings back and disconnected the flex lines, then did only a normal run up before the flight. With that said do you think I should be able to lift the tail in the hanger and see the light go on? (engine off, master on), I think I will try it, either way I feel much more comfortable taking it up again and getting some time on it. Also, John you had mentioned about the make-up of the tank and the sensor, it is a light sensor and the header tank is the PE but it is painted black on the outside, (hopefully I did not miss a spot). Thanks to all for the advice and compliments, I will keep you posted. lloyd From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low Fuel Warning On 2/6/2012 4:10 PM, Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky wrote: Any thoughts, appreciated. Oh, and by the way. Love your plane. Looks great and it looks like you did a meticulous job on it. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. 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