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1. 02:42 PM - Re: Non-Alcohol Fuel (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky)
2. 07:21 PM - lloyd and lorie (Malcolm Brubaker)
3. 07:43 PM - unusable fuel (bob noffs)
4. 08:31 PM - Re: Non-Alcohol Fuel (ctmcdowell@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Non-Alcohol Fuel |
Guys,
Has tank deterioration from ethanol been a concern with the Model 5 series
tanks from 1997?
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel
Kitfox IV here Ser # 1717
oringal glass tanks near 2000 hours = over 10,000 gallons or 50,000
litres run through these.
I am using premium now but has been whatever i get at pumps....... average
5% ethanol
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Lowell Fitt <mailto:lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel
Mike,
My wish for non alcohol fuel is more fuel tank related. Then there is
second hand reports of a local guy having vapor lock symptoms with his Rotax
80 hp after warm up. I'd go there in a heartbeat. I have 100 LL in it
right now because I am waiting for a FAA inspection on my new project and
don't want the booze sitting in my tank too long. Can't help with Jab
specific.
Lowell
From: Mike Chaney <mailto:poasttown@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel
I'm trying to sort through the information concerning running non-alcohol,
non-leaded auto fuel in my Jabiru 2200. (I currently use 100LL) I can't use
the alcohol fuels because of the lining of my fuel tanks.
I have found a supplier of a non-alcohol, non-leaded auto fuel rated at 91
octane. Is the 91 octane rating acceptable to run in the Jabiru 2200? I
generally try not to over analyze issues and maybe 100 LL is perfectly fine
to use. However, I keep seeing the lead vs non-lead issue popping up and
wonder if I should try to move away fron the leaded fuel. I don't want to
start this discussion all over again so my main question relates to the use
of the 91 octane.
Mike Chaney
Kitfox IV
Jabiru 2200
Ohio
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From: Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky <7suds@Chartermi.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list@m
atronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 5:42 PM=0ASubject: RE: Kitfox-
List: Non-Alcohol Fuel=0A =0A=0AGuys,=0AHas tank deterioration from ethano
l been a concern with the Model 5 series tanks from 1997? -=0A-=0AFrom:
owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave=0ASent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:57 PM=0ATo
: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel=0A
-=0AKitfox IV- here Ser # 1717- =0Aoringal glass tanks near 2000 hour
s- =--over -10,000- gallons or 50,000 litres run through these.
=0A-=0AI am using premium now but has been whatever i get at pumps.......
average 5% ethanol=0A-=0A-=0ADave=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>F
rom:Lowell Fitt =0A>To:kitfox-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent:Wednesday, June 0
6, 2012 2:52 PM=0A>Subject:Re: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel=0A>-=0A>Mike
,=0A>My wish for non alcohol fuel is more fuel tank related.- Then there
is second hand reports of a local guy having vapor lock symptoms with his R
otax 80 hp after warm up.- I'd go there in a heartbeat.- I have 100 LL
in it right now because I am waiting for a FAA inspection on my new project
and don't want the booze sitting in my tank too long.- Can't help with J
ab specific.=0A>Lowell=0A>-=0A>From:Mike Chaney =0A>Sent:Wednesday, June
06, 2012 10:39 AM=0A>To:kitfox =0A>Subject:Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel=0A
>-=0A>I'm trying to sort through the information concerning running non-a
lcohol, non-leaded-auto fuel in my Jabiru 2200.-(I-currently use 100L
L)-I can't use the alcohol fuels because of the lining of my fuel tanks.
- =0A>-=0A>I have found a supplier of a non-alcohol, non-leaded auto fu
el rated at 91 octane.- Is the 91 octane rating acceptable to run in the
Jabiru 2200?- I generally try not to over analyze issues and maybe 100 LL
is perfectly fine to use.- However, I keep seeing the lead vs non-lead i
ssue popping up and wonder if I should try to move away fron the leaded fue
l.- I don't want to start this discussion all over again so my main quest
ion relates to the use of the 91 octane.=0A>-=0A>Mike Chaney=0A>Kitfox IV
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i posted a few days about unusable fuel in my wing tanks. '' don't think
zebra when you hear hoofbeats''. my problem is my plane flies a little nose
high in level flight. GRAVITY! is causing the unusable fuel.
bob noffs
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| Subject: | Re: Non-Alcohol Fuel |
I've=C2-see all kind of problems with the 10% ethanol, not only in the fi
berglass tank resin desolving but in o-rings, gaskets, seals, fuel lines, a
nything organic. Some stuff is compatible, i.e. clear blue gas line, Polyet
hlene fuel tanks. Good luck in your research.-Tom
----- Original Message -----
=C2-From: "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 5:42:16 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel
Guys,
Has tank deterioration from ethanol been a concern with the Model 5 series
tanks from 1997? =C2-
=C2-
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel
=C2-
Kitfox IV=C2- here Ser # 1717=C2-
oringal glass tanks near 2000 hours=C2- ==C2-=C2-over =C2-10,000
=C2- gallons or 50,000 litres run through these.
=C2-
I am using premium now but has been whatever i get at pumps....... average
5% ethanol
=C2-
=C2-
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Lowell Fitt
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel
=C2-
Mike,
My wish for non alcohol fuel is more fuel tank related.=C2- Then there is
second hand reports of a local guy having vapor lock symptoms with his Rot
ax 80 hp after warm up.=C2- I'd go there in a heartbeat.=C2- I have 100
LL in it right now because I am waiting for a FAA inspection on my new pro
ject and don't want the booze sitting in my tank too long.=C2- Can't help
with Jab specific.
Lowell
=C2-
From: Mike Chaney
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Non-Alcohol Fuel
=C2-
I'm trying to sort through the information concerning running non-alcohol,
non-leaded=C2-auto fuel in my Jabiru 2200.=C2-(I=C2-currently use 100
LL)=C2-I can't use the alcohol fuels because of the lining of my fuel tan
ks.=C2-
=C2-
I have found a supplier of a non-alcohol, non-leaded auto fuel rated at 91
octane.=C2- Is the 91 octane rating acceptable to run in the Jabiru 2200?
=C2- I generally try not to over analyze issues and maybe 100 LL is perfe
ctly fine to use.=C2- However, I keep seeing the lead vs non-lead issue p
opping up and wonder if I should try to move away fron the leaded fuel.=C2
- I don't want to start this discussion all over again so my main questio
n relates to the use of the 91 octane.
=C2-
Mike Chaney
Kitfox IV
Jabiru 2200
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