---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/21/12: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:47 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Patrick Reilly) 2. 03:49 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lynn Matteson) 3. 06:13 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Catz631@aol.com) 4. 06:46 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (JC Propeller Design) 5. 07:58 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 6. 08:05 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 7. 08:15 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 8. 08:25 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 9. 08:26 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lynn Matteson) 10. 08:35 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 11. 08:39 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 12. 08:57 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 13. 09:00 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 14. 09:01 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 15. 09:05 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 16. 09:11 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 17. 09:21 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (JC Propeller Design) 18. 09:22 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lynn Matteson) 19. 10:07 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Roberto Waltman) 20. 12:08 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 21. 01:57 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 22. 02:29 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 23. 02:39 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 24. 02:59 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 25. 03:07 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 26. 08:22 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 27. 09:25 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Michael Gibbs) 28. 10:27 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Stan Specht) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air From: Patrick Reilly Lowell, You better not resubscribe with a ficticious name. There are about 5 guys on this list that are right next to God when it comes to Kitfoxes as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't have rebuilt mine without their help. Your one of them and Lynn is another one. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuilt Rockford, IL On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > ** > Thanks for all the replies. Today was a busy day. I got there early an > put a couple of hours on the Hobbs. Then spent some time with the guys. > One of them - the guy I sub hangar space from is working on some sort of > Parasol. I need to check. But it seems his hangar doubles as a hangout. > It makes me wonder how he gets anything done as there are always a couple > of guys kibitzing. Then again his slow progress is what gives me his > hangar as he is only taking a little space. After that I took the Kitfox > to the avionics shop to get the transponder squared away. My area is > between Beal AFB and SMF and I guess a transponder would be a good idea. > This put me in the evening commute. Tomorrow is a no fly day as there is a > TFR because the 747 mounted shuttle is planning a fly by over Sacramento > and they don=92t want tons of airplanes trying to get a better look. > > Guy, - The radiator is standard. I had the speedster cowl like housing > last time. I think eventually that will be done again. No shutters on t he > radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great - contact Mark. The o il > cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture is the mount > style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The shutters have hal f > inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. The spring you saw o n > the picture was an attempt to put on a stinger type spring, but despite > protecting the spring on the trailer ride to Lincoln, the stinger was > damaged as we rolled the airplane onto and off of the trailer - lots of > weight back there with the wings folded and the angle up the ramp so I pu t > the two leaf back on. > > Jan - No fire, but Lynn's suggestion relates to my oil tank swallowing an > oil bottle cap and trying to pass the melted plastic through the engine. > One thing related to that. It took a year for the FAA to finally determi ne > what the issue was. During that time, there was the gnawing question of > whether I destroyed my airplane because of a faulty gauge. This time, I > teed an idiot light into the system, so I have redundancy there now. It > seems to work fine so far - flashing red on master on, switching to stead y > green as pressure rises. > > Lynn - It is on my checklist. This is the plan and I didn't make this > up. Spread white towel on table. Put four bottles of oil on the towel. > Take one cap off and put it on the towel in front of the bottle. Clip th e > security ring off and put it in front of the cap. Repeat three more > times. Before closing anything up, count four times three. If all chec ks > out, button up. One of the guys today said it is the second time he hear d > of this particular issue. And a guy that opens oil filters for a living > said on a mag article that plastic is not uncommon in the oil filter. > > Mark, it is a 80 hp. KISS. > > Roberto - The rudder trim was something I had been thinking about for > about five years before the crash. (emergency landing) With the > opportunity, I though I would try it. It consists of the lower two ribs in > the rudder being made of carbon fiber arrow blanks - one on each side. (I > have the speedster type gap seal in the hinge area so the vertical is an > airfoil) There is a cam between each controlled by a servo and by > energizing the servo I can warp the ribs. With the rudder in cruise trim , > there is an airfoil on the left side and the right side is virtually flat .. > Picture attached of the mechanism. > > Patrick - I couldn't agree more. I am on the site, but with all the > screen names or whatever they call them, I don=92t sense the camaraderie that > I feel here. The names that responded here all have meaning to me with re al > people behind them and I feel like I am among friends. I struggle a bit > with the idea that a hobby like ours that really thrives in the social > setting would have us essentially hiding behind a made up name. I guess I > could understand it better if we were hiding from something. Then again, > my error, as Lynn reminds me, might be a good reason to re-subscribe to > this list with a made up name. > thanks again > Lowell > > *From:* Patrick Reilly > *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:15 PM > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all the > replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, took all > the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I like the Matron ix > format 10 times better. The few times I went to the Team Kitfox site I ha d > to memorize pin #'s and go to this file or that file. KISS is > the principle when it comes to websites as far as I'm concerned. Matronix > is as simple as it gets. The more #'s I have to remember and damn buttons I > have to push is inversely propotional to how much I use a site. > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuilt > Rockford, IL > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote : > >> >> Lowell, >> >> The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! >> Care to share details on the rudder trim? >> >> Roberto. >> >> >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Kitfox-List >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford,IL > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c * > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:05 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Besides all that, that site seems like a bunch of people who have "jumped ship", or went for the newest gadget, as it were. I like the Matronics venue because it gets mailed to my computer and I don't have to go hunting for it....my visits there are infrequent at best. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1361 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all > the replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, > took all the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I > like the Matronix format 10 times better. The few times I went to > the Team Kitfox site I had to memorize pin #'s and go to this file > or that file. KISS is the principle when it comes to websites as > far as I'm concerned. Matronix is as simple as it gets. The more > #'s I have to remember and damn buttons I have to push is inversely > propotional to how much I use a site. > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuilt > Rockford, IL > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman > wrote: > > Lowell, > > The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! > Care to share details on the rudder trim? > > Roberto. > > > =================================== > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > =================================== > http://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > > > -- > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford,IL > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:12 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:41 AM PST US From: "JC Propeller Design" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:39 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > I struggle a bit with the idea that a hobby like ours that really > thrives in the social setting would have us essentially hiding behind > a made up name. I guess I could understand it better if we were > hiding from something. Nah. We'd just use our call-signs /everywhere/; like the fly boys do. Instead of Viper and Maverick, it would be "49aero" and "I love pizza". (Random sample.) Wouldn't /you /like to walk around the Desert Fox Fly-in being called "I love pizza"? > Then again, my error, as Lynn reminds me, might be a good reason to > re-subscribe to this list with a made up name. HAHAHAHA! Like we wouldn't know. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:06 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > No shutters on the radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great > - contact Mark. Yeah. I'm trying that too. Got an interesting one from the web that's very clean. Installs in-line. (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bob-1-Universal-Kit-with-One-Inch-Fittings-TB1.htm) > The oil cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture > is the mount style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The > shutters have half inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. Your mount is sexy. Glad I hadn't made mine yet. And I just bought a new tube bender. Do you still market the vanes? What's the time lag on a temperature change after you adjust them? Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:38 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks Dick, I had a chat with my hangar mate early on - he is retired AA and in fact mentioned that the 747 that piggy backs the shuttle that is on tour was in the AA inventory when he was flying and had flown it a lot. Anyway our talk was about the difference I felt while there and contrasted to here in a residential airpark community. Here they are neighbors with all our imperfections and all the neighborhood intrigues. There it is all airplanes and friends. Nearby there is a pizza spot and you never see the guys during lunchtime as they are together once again there. Building at home can be a lonely experience. Lowell From: Catz631@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:27 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". >From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:44 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, Dick. : ) At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote: > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example > a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who > had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area > filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was > finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:59 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Lynn, I agree. I started on the email list in about 1994. It was after seeing some print outs from the list at one of the first factory fly-ins after starting my first Model IV. I read every post - 532s, 582s, 912s Model Is - everything. I learned a ton about Kitfoxes and the guy with the model I flying behind a 532, just might have the answer you were looking for. With all the compartmentalizing there is a lot that gets missed. I was having the rough running band between 3 and 4000 RPM and found the answer in the Matronix archives after a long search on the other site. I just wish there was more activity, but the other site is way down now as well. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > Besides all that, that site seems like a bunch of people who have "jumped > ship", or went for the newest gadget, as it were. I like the Matronics > venue because it gets mailed to my computer and I don't have to go > hunting for it....my visits there are infrequent at best. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with 1361 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > >> Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all the >> replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, took all >> the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I like the >> Matronix format 10 times better. The few times I went to the Team Kitfox >> site I had to memorize pin #'s and go to this file or that file. KISS is >> the principle when it comes to websites as far as I'm concerned. >> Matronix is as simple as it gets. The more #'s I have to remember and >> damn buttons I have to push is inversely propotional to how much I use a >> site. >> >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt >> Rockford, IL >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman >> wrote: >> >> Lowell, >> >> The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! >> Care to share details on the rudder trim? >> >> Roberto. >> >> >> =================================== >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List >> =================================== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> =================================== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> =================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuild >> Rockford,IL >> www.matronics.com/contribution _- >> =========================================================== > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:25 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:01 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air What's the time lag on a temperature change after you adjust them? Interesting you ask. I don't know and that bothers me a bit as I have been playing with them some, but have never watched through an entire cycle. The reason - I have an intermittent issue with the oil temp gauge. It is in the Quad gauge from Westach and occasionally it will peg at max reading. According to their trouble shooting guide pegging at max is due to the gauge ground being faulty. I did find a poor crimp and fixed that and it was fine until I started playing with the shutters in flight. I did find that I can get about a 50=B0 differential reading open and closed - OAT ~ 95. But, and this is interesting, if I close them in flight I can watch the temp climb and then pow, it might peg at max. Then by opening the shutters, it will suddenly give the correct reading. I seem to have an issue that is only triggered at higher temps. I have decided that it is the sender and plan on installing a new one - probably later today or tomorrow. Not trying to be commercial, but we make an inline thermostat as well. We don't use the bleed line. It is similar to what is in a car. We do enlarge the bleed hole through the diaphragm in the thermostat. That is the one I use and it is a 180=B0 thermostat and works very well. Lowell From: Guy Buchanan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: No shutters on the radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great - contact Mark. Yeah. I'm trying that too. Got an interesting one from the web that's very clean. Installs in-line. (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bob-1-Universal-Kit-with-One-Inch-Fittin gs-TB1.htm) The oil cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture is the mount style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The shutters have half inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. Your mount is sexy. Glad I hadn't made mine yet. And I just bought a new tube bender. Do you still market the vanes? What's the time lag on a temperature change after you adjust them? Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:28 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, Dick. > : ) > > At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of > which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda handy. ;-) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:56 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air On 9/21/2012 8:38 AM, rtmarshall wrote: > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 > year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in > OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I > love airplanes and cars! I knew that was going to happen. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:13 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice curves might mean something too. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:51 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/21/2012 8:56 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > Not trying to be commercial, but we make an inline thermostat as > well. We don't use the bleed line. It is similar to what is in a > car. We do enlarge the bleed hole through the diaphragm in the > thermostat. That is the one I use and it is a 180 thermostat and > works very well. Didn't know you guys made one. Oh well. Maybe we should allow and encourage "press releases" so everyone would know what was out there. Did see the oil louvers, though, so I'll contact you off-line about that. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:36 AM PST US From: "JC Propeller Design" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:43 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I carry one of those hospital-supplied plastic "catch cans" in my 'fox.....one day I was flying over a lake in Ohio and watching all the waterskiers, etc., and suddenly it hit me that I had to go....BAD! So I adjusted myself and the catch can (intergalactic docking?) and somehow the plane started to dive..I had nudged the stick a bit with the catch can. When telling my flight instructor about this, I got to the part about the plane diving, and he said "it changed the CG THAT much?" We had a good chuckle.... Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 21, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote: > On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: >> I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, >> Dick. : ) >> >> At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing >> of which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) > > I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda > handy. ;-) > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:04 AM PST US From: Roberto Waltman Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Lowell Fitt wrote: > Building at home can be a lonely experience. As is my "KF fixing up" in an airport one hour away, were it often seems I am the only person around. (Not counting the planes taxiing by and forcing me to stop working to move my plane around.) Hey, at home at least you have the fridge and bathroom nearby! Roberto. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:08:57 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:03 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Do you happen to know Bob McKay? He is older now and I don't think he flies any more but did a lot at our gliderport in Livermore, glider pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David Prather? He lives on C Park too so does Bob. Yep curves are always nice............fun to race with curves in the race course....of course those would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna Seca....Sears Point. Life goes on........... Very Nice job, a real beauty!! Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice curves might mean something too. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:30 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. Her favorite is the B-747. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:54 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Don't know any of them well. I tend to be a hangar rat and don't get up the street much. They are all on Boeing Rd. I am sure if I drove past their places coming and going, I would know them better. My first Model IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did final assembly there then we moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San Ramon. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Do you happen to know Bob McKay? He is older now and I don't think he flies any more but did a lot at our gliderport in Livermore, glider pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David Prather? He lives on C Park too so does Bob. Yep curves are always nice............fun to race with curves in the race course....of course those would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna Seca....Sears Point. Life goes on........... Very Nice job, a real beauty!! Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice curves might mean something too. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:44 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Due southwest of Reno....17 miles to Hwy 395. Big valley here. You're right flying in the Rocket we were there in less than an hour......hour to Truckee driving another hr to Auburn then over to your area another hr. via Hwy 49 now there a road with curves! That's a shame....the fox is really fun just kinda slow! After the Rocket anything is slow! Boooo B-747 toooo big! But that makes us all different......and exciting. Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. Her favorite is the B-747. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:09 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Okay, if it was before 1989 our glider field was at the outer marker for LVK......just adjacent to LLNL where a lot of the pilots worked. Hummingbird Haven....named for the first tandem 2 place motorglider. Club had to relocate once again to Byron (old airport) then moved to the new bigger one. We lived on Old School Rd. at the turn on Tassajara Rd. then out in the country....not so now. Blackhawk came later. Probably knew some of the same people....had a C-206T at LVK. Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:39 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Don't know any of them well. I tend to be a hangar rat and don't get up the street much. They are all on Boeing Rd. I am sure if I drove past their places coming and going, I would know them better. My first Model IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did final assembly there then we moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San Ramon. Lowell ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:49 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Had to laugh again. Highway 49. We took that "once" to go east on 80 and it was the first and only time I have ever gotten motion sickness while behind the wheel. Never again. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Due southwest of Reno....17 miles to Hwy 395. Big valley here. You're right flying in the Rocket we were there in less than an hour......hour to Truckee driving another hr to Auburn then over to your area another hr. via Hwy 49 now there a road with curves! That's a shame....the fox is really fun just kinda slow! After the Rocket anything is slow! Boooo B-747 toooo big! But that makes us all different......and exciting. Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. Her favorite is the B-747. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air From: Michael Gibbs Toodie, any more like you at home? :-) Mike G. Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6-3/4 Phoenix, AZ On Sep 21, 2012, at 8:38 AM, "rtmarshall" wrote: > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 yea r old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar ! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox................. .........we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has be en really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I w ould likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". =46rom me - "Th at would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she w ould pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial fl exibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant fo r UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when s he is in Shanghai or Sydney. > Lowell > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in t he hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law s ay, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to f igure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to b e back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much roo m to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging ar ound as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cel l phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job o f landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did i t with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to ha ve !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > Dick Mad dux > Milton,Fl > Fox 4, 9 12UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air From: Stan Specht Hi Lowell- I'm pleased to hear of your recent success, and what a beauty it is!! I'm l ooking forward to seeing it in person one of these days. Please keep postin g as your fly-off proceeds. Secondarily, it's nice to see this list become active again. I was starting to fear it had dried up and flown away! I, too, enjoy it much better than the other list in that it is more personable and interactive. Let's keep it humming, guys and gals! Hey, pretty good---I didn't even pick on Lynn!!! Stan Specht Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912 UL with over 1935 hours Denver, Colorado -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought i t timely to post some thoughts.... 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