---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/23/12: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:27 AM - Re: Jury strut fairings (Ed Gray) 2. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Jury strut fairings (Roger McConnell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:26 AM PST US From: "Ed Gray" Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Jury strut fairings My quick and simple jury strut fairings: I bought balsa elevator strips at RC hobby store (about one inch chord, wedge shaped), made concave in thick edge with #50 sandpaper wrapped around a dowell. Glued balsa to the struts with Gorilla glue, then wrapped the whole thing with aluminum tape, scuffed the aluminum and spray painted it. Looked good and took an hour or so. Try it! Ed Grau -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List Digest Server Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:02 AM Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 09/22/12 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-09-22&Archive=Kitfox Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2012-09-22&Archive=Kitfox =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/22/12: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:11 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lynn Matteson) 2. 07:09 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky) 3. 07:21 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky) 4. 08:21 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 5. 08:33 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 6. 08:38 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 7. 08:42 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 8. 10:12 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 9. 01:48 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Richard Weiss) 10. 02:34 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Dave) 11. 04:27 PM - Re: Back in the Air (rtmarshall) 12. 04:41 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 13. 04:56 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 14. 04:57 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 15. 05:07 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 (Ed Gray) 16. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 (Lowell Fitt) 17. 07:42 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 (Guy Buchanan) 18. 08:44 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Roberto Waltman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:14 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Geez, Stan, I'm beginning to think you don't love me any more....: ) Did anybody make it to Osh this year? I myself did not, due to weather along my intended flight path, or weather expected once there. I guess I must be getting old, but that hasn't stopped me from logging hours around here. I'm up to 1362 hours, with a breakfast destination today. Another thing I like about this list is the use of real names for the most part, and people who can actually spell and punctuate their sentences, unlike the "McDonald's ads group" (i nead a wyng fur a kitfox and i'm fliing latter tody is anybody els going fliing 2?) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 22, 2012, at 1:26 AM, Stan Specht wrote: > Hi Lowell- > > I'm pleased to hear of your recent success, and what a beauty it > is!! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person one of these days. > Please keep posting as your fly-off proceeds. > > Secondarily, it's nice to see this list become active again. I was > starting to fear it had dried up and flown away! I, too, enjoy it > much better than the other list in that it is more personable and > interactive. Let's keep it humming, guys and gals! > > Hey, pretty good---I didn't even pick on Lynn!!! > > Stan Specht > Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912 UL with over 1935 hours > Denver, Colorado > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lowell Fitt > To: kitfox-list > Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am > Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and > thought it timely to post some thoughts.... > Lowell > > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ========================================================== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:23 AM PST US From: "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Lowell, Congratulations on your return to air time! Love the Plane!! You did a magnificent job, (I think there was little doubt from this group that your efforts would yield anything less), you seem to have a real knack for innovative thinking and design as indicated by all the curiosity on your special touches. Absolutely love the rudder trim idea, also noticed you faired you cabine?? Struts (the little ones half way down the main wing struts not sure if that is what they are actually called), wondering what you used? Can we see some close ups? Again, congrats. Lloyd Cudnohufsky Rebuilt Model 5 Outback Flying 912Ul IVO IFA Northern Michigan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought it timely to post some thoughts. It seems to fly pretty much exactly like the old one. After about four hours tweaking the engine and pitching the prop, the Hobbs now shows just shy of 14 hours. Tests show that the ASI reads about 9% low so that will give give bragging rights with stall speed, but cruise will need an explanation. I get not quite 1200 ft. per minute on intitial climb. Temps are all in the green and my home brew rudder trim system seems to take out the need for right rudder in cruise. I still don't know for sure if I have a heavy left wing - it likes to make a very slow bank to the left, but really slow. I will probably put a half turn on the right wing aft lift strut rod end and see. the first flight was heavy stress on me as I had made a few mods - home brew engine mount with the engine a couple of inches forward to provide some room for a lower mounted oil tank. Aluminum Leading edges on the wings vs. the upper false ribs, the rib warping rudder trim and a few other mostly cosmetic things. The empty weight came in at 667 lbs. Unfortunately, I have an hour commute both ways to the flight test area, the best part of that, though, is that Lincoln Regional is a hotbed of experimental activity. I have met some great guys - mostl rag and tube, but up to a Thunder Mustang - and was offered a hangar on a monthly basis, so the pressure to get back home is gone. The flight test area is flat as flat farm area in the Central Valley and gorgeous and the winds tend to be very light to non existent this time of year. Lowell ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:12 AM PST US From: "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, You are a true inspiration, flying for over 50 years!! Wow!! Women in aviation 50 years ago was not a common thing, good for you going against the grain. My daughter is 14 and loves to fly with me, she loves it when we get into the turbulent stuff (I don't so much) she will take the stick of the FK for a while and fly, but it is not as easy for her to handle / TO / Land as say a 150, but we have a good time, she is my flying buddy. Lloyd Cudnohufsky Rebuilt Model 5 Outback Flying 912UL IVO IFA Northern Michigan From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:46 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air I agree, The first thing I do each morning is check the emails. I didn't fly yesterday, the Shuttle piggy backed on the 747 prompted a TFR for the morning. I did have soft plans to get as close as I could and see if I could get a picture. The word is that they were to do the pass at 1500 ft. To show that it is all not just looking at gauges, I took a camera up last flight and this is what I see. My test area is over Tomatoes, Rice, Almonds and who knows what. The second picture shows another use for the very high water table land in the Central Valley. There are several of these - maybe half a dozen - water ski set-ups in my immediate test area and we think our hobby is expensive. The third picture is personally interesting. I recognized the Stearman immediately as belonging to a friend and neighbor. After fueling, I parked beside it and felt the exhaust pipes to check if he had just arrived and was in the area - cold. Then after checking the gossip lines, discovered that he - a CFI - was giving a check ride for a tailwheel endorsement to another neighbor's daughter and did probably a You-Tube quality groundloop and it broke the aft spar on the right wing. The airplane is grounded now waiting for the insurance folks to check it out. Can you imagine carrying the memory that your groundloop was on your check ride. Rumor has it that the student pilot was Air Force and possibly a graduate of the academy. What do they say? Keep the dirty side down. How about, Keep the pointy end in front. Lowell From: Stan Specht Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Hi Lowell- I'm pleased to hear of your recent success, and what a beauty it is!! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person one of these days. Please keep posting as your fly-off proceeds. Secondarily, it's nice to see this list become active again. I was starting to fear it had dried up and flown away! I, too, enjoy it much better than the other list in that it is more personable and interactive. Let's keep it humming, guys and gals! Hey, pretty good---I didn't even pick on Lynn!!! Stan Specht Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912 UL with over 1935 hours Denver, Colorado -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought it timely to post some thoughts.... Lowell ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:24 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Loyd, I think you are referring to the jury struts. I made up an airfoil shape plug mold of wood. I painted it and smoothed it so there would be no imperfections and used wax and a separator, then covered it with one layer of a very light fiberglass fabric and vacuum bagged it to reduce the amount of resin in the final lay-up. The plug mold had a piece of aluminum extending aft so the aft edges of the glass fairing wouldn't be bonded. I used a table saw to trim that off and then cut it to length and bonded it around the strut at the aft edge. Lots of time sanding and some microballoon filler smoothed everything out. I learned all this stuff while helping a neighbor build a Lancair. Installed the fairings are soft to the touch because of the thinness of the lay-up. I was really trying for light, and I almost made it there - 665 lbs. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > <7suds@chartermi.net> > > Lowell, > Congratulations on your return to air time! Love the Plane!! You did a > magnificent job, (I think there was little doubt from this group that your > efforts would yield anything less), you seem to have a real knack for > innovative thinking and design as indicated by all the curiosity on your > special touches. Absolutely love the rudder trim idea, also noticed you > faired you cabine?? Struts (the little ones half way down the main wing > struts not sure if that is what they are actually called), wondering what > you used? Can we see some close ups? Again, congrats. > > Lloyd Cudnohufsky > Rebuilt Model 5 Outback Flying > 912Ul IVO IFA > Northern Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:47 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought > it > timely to post some thoughts. > > It seems to fly pretty much exactly like the old one. After about four > hours tweaking the engine and pitching the prop, the Hobbs now shows just > shy of 14 hours. Tests show that the ASI reads about 9% low so that will > give give bragging rights with stall speed, but cruise will need an > explanation. I get not quite 1200 ft. per minute on intitial climb. > Temps > are all in the green and my home brew rudder trim system seems to take out > the need for right rudder in cruise. I still don't know for sure if I > have > a heavy left wing - it likes to make a very slow bank to the left, but > really slow. I will probably put a half turn on the right wing aft lift > strut rod end and see. the first flight was heavy stress on me as I had > made a few mods - home brew engine mount with the engine a couple of > inches > forward to provide some room for a lower mounted oil tank. Aluminum > Leading > edges on the wings vs. the upper false ribs, the rib warping rudder trim > and > a few other mostly cosmetic things. The empty weight came in at 667 lbs. > > Unfortunately, I have an hour commute both ways to the flight test area, > the > best part of that, though, is that Lincoln Regional is a hotbed of > experimental activity. I have met some great guys - mostl rag and tube, > but > up to a Thunder Mustang - and was offered a hangar on a monthly basis, so > the pressure to get back home is gone. > > The flight test area is flat as flat farm area in the Central Valley and > gorgeous and the winds tend to be very light to non existent this time of > year. > Lowell > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:12 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks for the kind words, Lloyd, if it wasn't for my Dad I would have never flown, he being a glider/power pilot in the early days flying from Santa Monica (lower California!), Since your daughter loves turbulence, hopefully there is a glider port near by, if you can, have her take a intro flight. Most soaring sites give intros. like most sports the older pilots are leaving and not many younger kids are coming up. It's a blast to keep yourself aloft by your skills, a real achievement for a younger person! There are many ladies flying now than ever before. Here's a couple of ideas. #1 The Ninety Nines...they give scholarships when she is a little older. www.mich99s.org a very old chapter. The ladies are most supportive. #2. The Soaring Society of America. www.ssa.org There are 4 soaring sites in MI, Adrian, Cadillac, Gregory and Marshall. The more northerly one is Northwest Soaring club of Frankfort. www.northwestsoaringclub.org they have two, two place ships of the type I used to own. Excellent to take an intro ride in. ASK-13. She can start her lessons now and get a license at 16. Hope the airport isn't too far to drive....figure flying would be fun. I agree with you, if she is short flying the fox is a challenge especially landing! So this is not unusual, glad you have a flying buddy! Toodie KF-4 1200 High Sierras CA From: Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, You are a true inspiration, flying for over 50 years!! Wow!! Women in aviation 50 years ago was not a common thing, good for you going against the grain. My daughter is 14 and loves to fly with me, she loves it when we get into the turbulent stuff (I don't so much) she will take the stick of the FK for a while and fly, but it is not as easy for her to handle / TO / Land as say a 150, but we have a good time, she is my flying buddy. Lloyd Cudnohufsky Rebuilt Model 5 Outback Flying 912UL IVO IFA Northern Michigan ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:31 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sure, what's your age range? Opps.... we are becoming a dating service LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 Sierras near Reno. Perfect weather low 40's high of 80 today. From: Michael Gibbs Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:26 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, any more like you at home? :-) Mike G. Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6-3/4 Phoenix, AZ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:57 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/22/2012 8:20 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > What do they say? Keep the dirty side down. How about, Keep the > pointy end in front. What do they say? Them's that has, and them's that will. . . Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:24 PM PST US From: Richard Weiss Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Lowell, I was happy to read that your flying again. Congratulations! I'm sure you're having a great time. Enjoy yourself to the max! Rick Weiss Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) Rotax 912S, Dynon Skyview Spruce Creek Fly In, FL On Sep 22, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > I agree, > The first thing I do each morning is check the emails. I didn't fly yesterday, the Shuttle piggy backed on the 747 prompted a TFR for the morning. I did have soft plans to get as close as I could and see if I could get a picture. The word is that they were to do the pass at 1500 ft. > > To show that it is all not just looking at gauges, I took a camera up last flight and this is what I see. My test area is over Tomatoes, Rice, Almonds and who knows what. The second picture shows another use for the very high water table land in the Central Valley. There are several of these - maybe half a dozen - water ski set-ups in my immediate test area and we think our hobby is expensive. > > The third picture is personally interesting. I recognized the Stearman immediately as belonging to a friend and neighbor. After fueling, I parked beside it and felt the exhaust pipes to check if he had just arrived and was in the area - cold. Then after checking the gossip lines, discovered that he - a CFI - was giving a check ride for a tailwheel endorsement to another neighbor's daughter and did probably a You-Tube quality groundloop and it broke the aft spar on the right wing. The airplane is grounded now waiting for the insurance folks to check it out. Can you imagine carrying the memory that your groundloop was on your check ride. Rumor has it that the student pilot was Air Force and possibly a graduate of the academy. > > What do they say? Keep the dirty side down. How about, Keep the pointy end in front. > Lowell > > From: Stan Specht > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:26 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > Hi Lowell- > > I'm pleased to hear of your recent success, and what a beauty it is!! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person one of these days. Please keep posting as your fly-off proceeds. > > Secondarily, it's nice to see this list become active again. I was starting to fear it had dried up and flown away! I, too, enjoy it much better than the other list in that it is more personable and interactive. Let's keep it humming, guys and gals! > > Hey, pretty good---I didn't even pick on Lynn!!! > > Stan Specht > Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912 UL with over 1935 hours > Denver, Colorado > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lowell Fitt > To: kitfox-list > Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am > Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought it timely to post some > thoughts.... > Lowell > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:46 PM PST US From: "Dave " Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air HI Lowell, congratulations and I am sure flying off the test time will go smoothly. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:27:56 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Hi Lowell, Hard to tell from the picture, which prop are you using, we are thinking of changing to a warp dive on our 4/1200 80 hp. Thanks, Toodie and Bob ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:32 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Yes it is the Warp Drive, 68" Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Hi Lowell, Hard to tell from the picture, which prop are you using, we are thinking of changing to a warp dive on our 4/1200 80 hp. Thanks, Toodie and Bob ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:56:37 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Thanks Rick. I just looked again at your airport and surrounding community. It was impressive during our visit, much different then our 90 home airpark here. Lowell From: Richard Weiss Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Lowell, I was happy to read that your flying again. Congratulations! I'm sure you're having a great time. Enjoy yourself to the max! Rick Weiss Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) Rotax 912S, Dynon Skyview Spruce Creek Fly In, FL On Sep 22, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: I agree, The first thing I do each morning is check the emails. I didn't fly yesterday, the Shuttle piggy backed on the 747 prompted a TFR for the morning. I did have soft plans to get as close as I could and see if I could get a picture. The word is that they were to do the pass at 1500 ft. To show that it is all not just looking at gauges, I took a camera up last flight and this is what I see. My test area is over Tomatoes, Rice, Almonds and who knows what. The second picture shows another use for the very high water table land in the Central Valley. There are several of these - maybe half a dozen - water ski set-ups in my immediate test area and we think our hobby is expensive. The third picture is personally interesting. I recognized the Stearman immediately as belonging to a friend and neighbor. After fueling, I parked beside it and felt the exhaust pipes to check if he had just arrived and was in the area - cold. Then after checking the gossip lines, discovered that he - a CFI - was giving a check ride for a tailwheel endorsement to another neighbor's daughter and did probably a You-Tube quality groundloop and it broke the aft spar on the right wing. The airplane is grounded now waiting for the insurance folks to check it out. Can you imagine carrying the memory that your groundloop was on your check ride. Rumor has it that the student pilot was Air Force and possibly a graduate of the academy. What do they say? Keep the dirty side down. How about, Keep the pointy end in front. Lowell From: Stan Specht Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:26 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Hi Lowell- I'm pleased to hear of your recent success, and what a beauty it is!! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person one of these days. Please keep posting as your fly-off proceeds. Secondarily, it's nice to see this list become active again. I was starting to fear it had dried up and flown away! I, too, enjoy it much better than the other list in that it is more personable and interactive. Let's keep it humming, guys and gals! Hey, pretty good---I didn't even pick on Lynn!!! Stan Specht Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912 UL with over 1935 hours Denver, Colorado -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Fitt To: kitfox-list Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought it timely to post some thoughts.... Lowell href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:22 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Thanks Dave, Lowell From: Dave Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air HI Lowell, congratulations and I am sure flying off the test time will go smoothly. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:19 PM PST US From: "Ed Gray" Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 Lynn, and other Fox flyers, known and unknown, the Lancair 360 is flying now. Not as much fun as a Kitfox, but Dallas to Houston in barely over one hour is nice. The next Fox, model 4 Speedster with Viking power, clipped, re-attachable wingtips and aluminum upper fore wing skins is underway. So I will challenge all Foxes to a race next summer. What is the least expensive combo for EFIS and autopilot? Glad to see you all back on Matronics-brand T is a pain. Ed Gray, Dallas PS, my first Fox, N741K is for sale again -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List Digest Server Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:02 AM Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 * ================================================ Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================ Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. 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HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-09-21&Archive=Kitfox Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2012-09-21&Archive=Kitfox ============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/21/12: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:47 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Patrick Reilly) 2. 03:49 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lynn Matteson) 3. 06:13 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Catz631@aol.com) 4. 06:46 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (JC Propeller Design) 5. 07:58 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 6. 08:05 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 7. 08:15 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 8. 08:25 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 9. 08:26 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lynn Matteson) 10. 08:35 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 11. 08:39 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 12. 08:57 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 13. 09:00 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 14. 09:01 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 15. 09:05 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 16. 09:11 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) 17. 09:21 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (JC Propeller Design) 18. 09:22 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lynn Matteson) 19. 10:07 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Roberto Waltman) 20. 12:08 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 21. 01:57 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 22. 02:29 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 23. 02:39 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 24. 02:59 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 25. 03:07 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) 26. 08:22 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) 27. 09:25 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Michael Gibbs) 28. 10:27 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Stan Specht) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air From: Patrick Reilly Lowell, You better not resubscribe with a ficticious name. There are about 5 guys on this list that are right next to God when it comes to Kitfoxes as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't have rebuilt mine without their help. Your one of them and Lynn is another one. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuilt Rockford, IL On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > ** > Thanks for all the replies. Today was a busy day. I got there early an > put a couple of hours on the Hobbs. Then spent some time with the guys. > One of them - the guy I sub hangar space from is working on some sort of > Parasol. I need to check. But it seems his hangar doubles as a hangout. > It makes me wonder how he gets anything done as there are always a couple > of guys kibitzing. Then again his slow progress is what gives me his > hangar as he is only taking a little space. After that I took the Kitfox > to the avionics shop to get the transponder squared away. My area is > between Beal AFB and SMF and I guess a transponder would be a good idea. > This put me in the evening commute. Tomorrow is a no fly day as there is a > TFR because the 747 mounted shuttle is planning a fly by over Sacramento > and they don=92t want tons of airplanes trying to get a better look. > > Guy, - The radiator is standard. I had the speedster cowl like housing > last time. I think eventually that will be done again. No shutters on t he > radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great - contact Mark. The o il > cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture is the mount > style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The shutters have hal f > inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. The spring you saw o n > the picture was an attempt to put on a stinger type spring, but despite > protecting the spring on the trailer ride to Lincoln, the stinger was > damaged as we rolled the airplane onto and off of the trailer - lots of > weight back there with the wings folded and the angle up the ramp so I pu t > the two leaf back on. > > Jan - No fire, but Lynn's suggestion relates to my oil tank swallowing an > oil bottle cap and trying to pass the melted plastic through the engine. > One thing related to that. It took a year for the FAA to finally determi ne > what the issue was. During that time, there was the gnawing question of > whether I destroyed my airplane because of a faulty gauge. This time, I > teed an idiot light into the system, so I have redundancy there now. It > seems to work fine so far - flashing red on master on, switching to stead y > green as pressure rises. > > Lynn - It is on my checklist. This is the plan and I didn't make this > up. Spread white towel on table. Put four bottles of oil on the towel. > Take one cap off and put it on the towel in front of the bottle. Clip th e > security ring off and put it in front of the cap. Repeat three more > times. Before closing anything up, count four times three. If all chec ks > out, button up. One of the guys today said it is the second time he hear d > of this particular issue. And a guy that opens oil filters for a living > said on a mag article that plastic is not uncommon in the oil filter. > > Mark, it is a 80 hp. KISS. > > Roberto - The rudder trim was something I had been thinking about for > about five years before the crash. (emergency landing) With the > opportunity, I though I would try it. It consists of the lower two ribs in > the rudder being made of carbon fiber arrow blanks - one on each side. (I > have the speedster type gap seal in the hinge area so the vertical is an > airfoil) There is a cam between each controlled by a servo and by > energizing the servo I can warp the ribs. With the rudder in cruise trim , > there is an airfoil on the left side and the right side is virtually flat .. > Picture attached of the mechanism. > > Patrick - I couldn't agree more. I am on the site, but with all the > screen names or whatever they call them, I don=92t sense the camaraderie that > I feel here. The names that responded here all have meaning to me with re al > people behind them and I feel like I am among friends. I struggle a bit > with the idea that a hobby like ours that really thrives in the social > setting would have us essentially hiding behind a made up name. I guess I > could understand it better if we were hiding from something. Then again, > my error, as Lynn reminds me, might be a good reason to re-subscribe to > this list with a made up name. > thanks again > Lowell > > *From:* Patrick Reilly > *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:15 PM > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all the > replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, took all > the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I like the Matron ix > format 10 times better. The few times I went to the Team Kitfox site I ha d > to memorize pin #'s and go to this file or that file. KISS is > the principle when it comes to websites as far as I'm concerned. Matronix > is as simple as it gets. The more #'s I have to remember and damn buttons I > have to push is inversely propotional to how much I use a site. > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuilt > Rockford, IL > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote : > >> >> Lowell, >> >> The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! >> Care to share details on the rudder trim? >> >> Roberto. >> >> >> ====**================= ===========** >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Kitfox-List >> ====**================= ===========** >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ====**================= ===========** >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >> ====**================= ===========** >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford,IL > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c * > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:05 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Besides all that, that site seems like a bunch of people who have "jumped ship", or went for the newest gadget, as it were. I like the Matronics venue because it gets mailed to my computer and I don't have to go hunting for it....my visits there are infrequent at best. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1361 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all > the replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, > took all the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I > like the Matronix format 10 times better. The few times I went to > the Team Kitfox site I had to memorize pin #'s and go to this file > or that file. KISS is the principle when it comes to websites as > far as I'm concerned. Matronix is as simple as it gets. The more > #'s I have to remember and damn buttons I have to push is inversely > propotional to how much I use a site. > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuilt > Rockford, IL > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman > wrote: > > Lowell, > > The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! > Care to share details on the rudder trim? > > Roberto. > > > ================================= > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > ================================= > http://forums.matronics.com > ================================= > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ================================= > > > -- > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford,IL > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ========================================================= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:12 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:41 AM PST US From: "JC Propeller Design" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:39 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > I struggle a bit with the idea that a hobby like ours that really > thrives in the social setting would have us essentially hiding behind > a made up name. I guess I could understand it better if we were > hiding from something. Nah. We'd just use our call-signs /everywhere/; like the fly boys do. Instead of Viper and Maverick, it would be "49aero" and "I love pizza". (Random sample.) Wouldn't /you /like to walk around the Desert Fox Fly-in being called "I love pizza"? > Then again, my error, as Lynn reminds me, might be a good reason to > re-subscribe to this list with a made up name. HAHAHAHA! Like we wouldn't know. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:06 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > No shutters on the radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great > - contact Mark. Yeah. I'm trying that too. Got an interesting one from the web that's very clean. Installs in-line. (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bob-1-Universal-Kit-with-One-Inch-Fittings- TB1.htm) > The oil cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture > is the mount style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The > shutters have half inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. Your mount is sexy. Glad I hadn't made mine yet. And I just bought a new tube bender. Do you still market the vanes? What's the time lag on a temperature change after you adjust them? Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:38 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks Dick, I had a chat with my hangar mate early on - he is retired AA and in fact mentioned that the 747 that piggy backs the shuttle that is on tour was in the AA inventory when he was flying and had flown it a lot. Anyway our talk was about the difference I felt while there and contrasted to here in a residential airpark community. Here they are neighbors with all our imperfections and all the neighborhood intrigues. There it is all airplanes and friends. Nearby there is a pizza spot and you never see the guys during lunchtime as they are together once again there. Building at home can be a lonely experience. Lowell From: Catz631@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:27 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". >From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:44 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, Dick. : ) At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote: > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example > a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who > had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area > filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was > finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ========================================================= ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:59 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Lynn, I agree. I started on the email list in about 1994. It was after seeing some print outs from the list at one of the first factory fly-ins after starting my first Model IV. I read every post - 532s, 582s, 912s Model Is - everything. I learned a ton about Kitfoxes and the guy with the model I flying behind a 532, just might have the answer you were looking for. With all the compartmentalizing there is a lot that gets missed. I was having the rough running band between 3 and 4000 RPM and found the answer in the Matronix archives after a long search on the other site. I just wish there was more activity, but the other site is way down now as well. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > Besides all that, that site seems like a bunch of people who have "jumped > ship", or went for the newest gadget, as it were. I like the Matronics > venue because it gets mailed to my computer and I don't have to go > hunting for it....my visits there are infrequent at best. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with 1361 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > >> Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all the >> replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, took all >> the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I like the >> Matronix format 10 times better. The few times I went to the Team Kitfox >> site I had to memorize pin #'s and go to this file or that file. KISS is >> the principle when it comes to websites as far as I'm concerned. >> Matronix is as simple as it gets. The more #'s I have to remember and >> damn buttons I have to push is inversely propotional to how much I use a >> site. >> >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt >> Rockford, IL >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman >> wrote: >> >> Lowell, >> >> The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! >> Care to share details on the rudder trim? >> >> Roberto. >> >> >> ================================= >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List >> ================================= >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ================================= >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ================================= >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuild >> Rockford,IL >> www.matronics.com/contribution _- >> ========================================================= > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:25 AM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:01 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air What's the time lag on a temperature change after you adjust them? Interesting you ask. I don't know and that bothers me a bit as I have been playing with them some, but have never watched through an entire cycle. The reason - I have an intermittent issue with the oil temp gauge. It is in the Quad gauge from Westach and occasionally it will peg at max reading. According to their trouble shooting guide pegging at max is due to the gauge ground being faulty. I did find a poor crimp and fixed that and it was fine until I started playing with the shutters in flight. I did find that I can get about a 50=B0 differential reading open and closed - OAT ~ 95. But, and this is interesting, if I close them in flight I can watch the temp climb and then pow, it might peg at max. Then by opening the shutters, it will suddenly give the correct reading. I seem to have an issue that is only triggered at higher temps. I have decided that it is the sender and plan on installing a new one - probably later today or tomorrow. Not trying to be commercial, but we make an inline thermostat as well. We don't use the bleed line. It is similar to what is in a car. We do enlarge the bleed hole through the diaphragm in the thermostat. That is the one I use and it is a 180=B0 thermostat and works very well. Lowell From: Guy Buchanan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: No shutters on the radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great - contact Mark. Yeah. I'm trying that too. Got an interesting one from the web that's very clean. Installs in-line. (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bob-1-Universal-Kit-with-One-Inch-Fittin gs-TB1.htm) The oil cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture is the mount style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The shutters have half inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. Your mount is sexy. Glad I hadn't made mine yet. And I just bought a new tube bender. Do you still market the vanes? What's the time lag on a temperature change after you adjust them? Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:28 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, Dick. > : ) > > At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of > which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda handy. ;-) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:56 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air On 9/21/2012 8:38 AM, rtmarshall wrote: > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 > year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in > OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I > love airplanes and cars! I knew that was going to happen. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:13 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice curves might mean something too. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:51 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air On 9/21/2012 8:56 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > Not trying to be commercial, but we make an inline thermostat as > well. We don't use the bleed line. It is similar to what is in a > car. We do enlarge the bleed hole through the diaphragm in the > thermostat. That is the one I use and it is a 180 thermostat and > works very well. Didn't know you guys made one. Oh well. Maybe we should allow and encourage "press releases" so everyone would know what was out there. Did see the oil louvers, though, so I'll contact you off-line about that. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:36 AM PST US From: "JC Propeller Design" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:43 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I carry one of those hospital-supplied plastic "catch cans" in my 'fox.....one day I was flying over a lake in Ohio and watching all the waterskiers, etc., and suddenly it hit me that I had to go....BAD! So I adjusted myself and the catch can (intergalactic docking?) and somehow the plane started to dive..I had nudged the stick a bit with the catch can. When telling my flight instructor about this, I got to the part about the plane diving, and he said "it changed the CG THAT much?" We had a good chuckle.... Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Sep 21, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote: > On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: >> I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, >> Dick. : ) >> >> At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing >> of which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) > > I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda > handy. ;-) > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > ========================================================= ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:04 AM PST US From: Roberto Waltman Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air Lowell Fitt wrote: > Building at home can be a lonely experience. As is my "KF fixing up" in an airport one hour away, were it often seems I am the only person around. (Not counting the planes taxiing by and forcing me to stop working to move my plane around.) Hey, at home at least you have the fridge and bathroom nearby! Roberto. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:08:57 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:03 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Do you happen to know Bob McKay? He is older now and I don't think he flies any more but did a lot at our gliderport in Livermore, glider pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David Prather? He lives on C Park too so does Bob. Yep curves are always nice............fun to race with curves in the race course....of course those would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna Seca....Sears Point. Life goes on........... Very Nice job, a real beauty!! Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice curves might mean something too. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:30 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. Her favorite is the B-747. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:54 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Don't know any of them well. I tend to be a hangar rat and don't get up the street much. They are all on Boeing Rd. I am sure if I drove past their places coming and going, I would know them better. My first Model IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did final assembly there then we moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San Ramon. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Do you happen to know Bob McKay? He is older now and I don't think he flies any more but did a lot at our gliderport in Livermore, glider pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David Prather? He lives on C Park too so does Bob. Yep curves are always nice............fun to race with curves in the race course....of course those would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna Seca....Sears Point. Life goes on........... Very Nice job, a real beauty!! Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice curves might mean something too. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:44 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Due southwest of Reno....17 miles to Hwy 395. Big valley here. You're right flying in the Rocket we were there in less than an hour......hour to Truckee driving another hr to Auburn then over to your area another hr. via Hwy 49 now there a road with curves! That's a shame....the fox is really fun just kinda slow! After the Rocket anything is slow! Boooo B-747 toooo big! But that makes us all different......and exciting. Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. Her favorite is the B-747. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:09 PM PST US From: "rtmarshall" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Okay, if it was before 1989 our glider field was at the outer marker for LVK......just adjacent to LLNL where a lot of the pilots worked. Hummingbird Haven....named for the first tandem 2 place motorglider. Club had to relocate once again to Byron (old airport) then moved to the new bigger one. We lived on Old School Rd. at the turn on Tassajara Rd. then out in the country....not so now. Blackhawk came later. Probably knew some of the same people....had a C-206T at LVK. Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:39 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Don't know any of them well. I tend to be a hangar rat and don't get up the street much. They are all on Boeing Rd. I am sure if I drove past their places coming and going, I would know them better. My first Model IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did final assembly there then we moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San Ramon. Lowell ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:49 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Had to laugh again. Highway 49. We took that "once" to go east on 80 and it was the first and only time I have ever gotten motion sickness while behind the wheel. Never again. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Due southwest of Reno....17 miles to Hwy 395. Big valley here. You're right flying in the Rocket we were there in less than an hour......hour to Truckee driving another hr to Auburn then over to your area another hr. via Hwy 49 now there a road with curves! That's a shame....the fox is really fun just kinda slow! After the Rocket anything is slow! Boooo B-747 toooo big! But that makes us all different......and exciting. Toodie From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. Her favorite is the B-747. Lowell From: rtmarshall Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than expected! I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! Toodie KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: rtmarshall To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! Toodie KF4-1200 High Sierras CA From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Jan, Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. Lowell From: JC Propeller Design Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out. Jan www.jcpropellerdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air! By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!! Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl Fox 4, 912UL href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air From: Michael Gibbs Toodie, any more like you at home? :-) Mike G. Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6-3/4 Phoenix, AZ On Sep 21, 2012, at 8:38 AM, "rtmarshall" wrote: > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 yea r old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar ! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox................. .........we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has be en really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that I w ould likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". =46rom me - "Th at would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she w ould pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial fl exibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant fo r UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am when s he is in Shanghai or Sydney. > Lowell > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in t he hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law s ay, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to f igure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to b e back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much roo m to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging ar ound as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cel l phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job o f landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did i t with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to ha ve !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > Dick Mad dux > Milton,Fl > Fox 4, 9 12UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > ======================== ======= ======================== ======= ======================== ======= ======================== ======= > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air From: Stan Specht Hi Lowell- I'm pleased to hear of your recent success, and what a beauty it is!! I'm l ooking forward to seeing it in person one of these days. Please keep postin g as your fly-off proceeds. Secondarily, it's nice to see this list become active again. I was starting to fear it had dried up and flown away! I, too, enjoy it much better than the other list in that it is more personable and interactive. Let's keep it humming, guys and gals! Hey, pretty good---I didn't even pick on Lynn!!! Stan Specht Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912 UL with over 1935 hours Denver, Colorado -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Fitt Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought i t timely to post some thoughts.... Lowell ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:40 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 Ed, Congratulations on the Lancair. My buddy across the street had to move due to the economy and stuff. I told him that his Lancair IV could find a hangar where I am test flying - an hour commute North of here. He looked at me with a smile and said, "So the two way commute to Lincoln will take the same time it takes me to get to Salt Lake City ~ 600 mi. Lowell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Gray" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 > > Lynn, and other Fox flyers, known and unknown, the Lancair 360 is flying > now. Not as much fun as a Kitfox, but Dallas to Houston in barely over > one > hour is nice. The next Fox, model 4 Speedster with Viking power, clipped, > re-attachable wingtips and aluminum upper fore wing skins is underway. So > I > will challenge all Foxes to a race next summer. What is the least > expensive > combo for EFIS and autopilot? Glad to see you all back on Matronics-brand > T > is a pain. Ed Gray, Dallas PS, my first Fox, N741K is for sale again > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List > Digest Server > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:02 AM > To: Kitfox-List Digest List > Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 > > * > > ================================================ > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter > 12-09-21&Archive=Kitfox > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter > 2012-09-21&Archive=Kitfox > > > ============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kitfox-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 09/21/12: 28 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 12:47 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Patrick Reilly) > 2. 03:49 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lynn Matteson) > 3. 06:13 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Catz631@aol.com) > 4. 06:46 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (JC Propeller > Design) > 5. 07:58 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) > 6. 08:05 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) > 7. 08:15 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 8. 08:25 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 9. 08:26 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lynn Matteson) > 10. 08:35 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 11. 08:39 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) > 12. 08:57 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 13. 09:00 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Guy Buchanan) > 14. 09:01 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Guy Buchanan) > 15. 09:05 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 16. 09:11 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Guy Buchanan) > 17. 09:21 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (JC Propeller > Design) > 18. 09:22 AM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lynn Matteson) > 19. 10:07 AM - Re: Back in the Air (Roberto Waltman) > 20. 12:08 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) > 21. 01:57 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) > 22. 02:29 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 23. 02:39 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 24. 02:59 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) > 25. 03:07 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (rtmarshall) > 26. 08:22 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Lowell Fitt) > 27. 09:25 PM - Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air (Michael Gibbs) > 28. 10:27 PM - Re: Back in the Air (Stan Specht) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:47:42 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > From: Patrick Reilly > > Lowell, You better not resubscribe with a ficticious name. There are about > 5 guys on this list that are right next to God when it comes to Kitfoxes > as > far as I'm concerned. I couldn't have rebuilt mine without their help. > Your > one of them and Lynn is another one. > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuilt > Rockford, IL > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Lowell Fitt > wrote: > >> ** >> Thanks for all the replies. Today was a busy day. I got there early an >> put a couple of hours on the Hobbs. Then spent some time with the guys. >> One of them - the guy I sub hangar space from is working on some sort of >> Parasol. I need to check. But it seems his hangar doubles as a hangout. >> It makes me wonder how he gets anything done as there are always a couple >> of guys kibitzing. Then again his slow progress is what gives me his >> hangar as he is only taking a little space. After that I took the Kitfox >> to the avionics shop to get the transponder squared away. My area is >> between Beal AFB and SMF and I guess a transponder would be a good idea. >> This put me in the evening commute. Tomorrow is a no fly day as there is > a >> TFR because the 747 mounted shuttle is planning a fly by over Sacramento >> and they don=92t want tons of airplanes trying to get a better look. >> >> Guy, - The radiator is standard. I had the speedster cowl like housing >> last time. I think eventually that will be done again. No shutters on t > he >> radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great - contact Mark. The o > il >> cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture is the mount >> style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The shutters have hal > f >> inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. The spring you saw o > n >> the picture was an attempt to put on a stinger type spring, but despite >> protecting the spring on the trailer ride to Lincoln, the stinger was >> damaged as we rolled the airplane onto and off of the trailer - lots of >> weight back there with the wings folded and the angle up the ramp so I pu > t >> the two leaf back on. >> >> Jan - No fire, but Lynn's suggestion relates to my oil tank swallowing an >> oil bottle cap and trying to pass the melted plastic through the engine. >> One thing related to that. It took a year for the FAA to finally determi > ne >> what the issue was. During that time, there was the gnawing question of >> whether I destroyed my airplane because of a faulty gauge. This time, I >> teed an idiot light into the system, so I have redundancy there now. It >> seems to work fine so far - flashing red on master on, switching to stead > y >> green as pressure rises. >> >> Lynn - It is on my checklist. This is the plan and I didn't make this >> up. Spread white towel on table. Put four bottles of oil on the towel. >> Take one cap off and put it on the towel in front of the bottle. Clip th > e >> security ring off and put it in front of the cap. Repeat three more >> times. Before closing anything up, count four times three. If all chec > ks >> out, button up. One of the guys today said it is the second time he hear > d >> of this particular issue. And a guy that opens oil filters for a living >> said on a mag article that plastic is not uncommon in the oil filter. >> >> Mark, it is a 80 hp. KISS. >> >> Roberto - The rudder trim was something I had been thinking about for >> about five years before the crash. (emergency landing) With the >> opportunity, I though I would try it. It consists of the lower two ribs > in >> the rudder being made of carbon fiber arrow blanks - one on each side. (I >> have the speedster type gap seal in the hinge area so the vertical is an >> airfoil) There is a cam between each controlled by a servo and by >> energizing the servo I can warp the ribs. With the rudder in cruise trim > , >> there is an airfoil on the left side and the right side is virtually flat > .. >> Picture attached of the mechanism. >> >> Patrick - I couldn't agree more. I am on the site, but with all the >> screen names or whatever they call them, I don=92t sense the camaraderie > that >> I feel here. The names that responded here all have meaning to me with re > al >> people behind them and I feel like I am among friends. I struggle a bit >> with the idea that a hobby like ours that really thrives in the social >> setting would have us essentially hiding behind a made up name. I guess > I >> could understand it better if we were hiding from something. Then again, >> my error, as Lynn reminds me, might be a good reason to re-subscribe to >> this list with a made up name. >> thanks again >> Lowell >> >> *From:* Patrick Reilly >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:15 PM >> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air >> >> Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all the >> replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, took all >> the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I like the Matron > ix >> format 10 times better. The few times I went to the Team Kitfox site I ha > d >> to memorize pin #'s and go to this file or that file. KISS is >> the principle when it comes to websites as far as I'm concerned. Matronix >> is as simple as it gets. The more #'s I have to remember and damn buttons > I >> have to push is inversely propotional to how much I use a site. >> >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt >> Rockford, IL >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote > : >> >>> >>> Lowell, >>> >>> The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! >>> Care to share details on the rudder trim? >>> >>> Roberto. >>> >>> >>> ====**================= > ===========** >>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Kitfox-List >>> ====**================= > ===========** >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> ====**================= > ===========** >>> le, List Admin. >>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >>> ====**================= > ===========** >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuild >> Rockford,IL >> >> * >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * >> >> > > > -- > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford,IL > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:49:05 AM PST US > From: Lynn Matteson > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > > Besides all that, that site seems like a bunch of people who have > "jumped ship", or went for the newest gadget, as it were. I like the > Matronics venue because it gets mailed to my computer and I don't > have to go hunting for it....my visits there are infrequent at best. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with 1361 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > >> Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all >> the replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, >> took all the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I >> like the Matronix format 10 times better. The few times I went to >> the Team Kitfox site I had to memorize pin #'s and go to this file >> or that file. KISS is the principle when it comes to websites as >> far as I'm concerned. Matronix is as simple as it gets. The more >> #'s I have to remember and damn buttons I have to push is inversely >> propotional to how much I use a site. >> >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt >> Rockford, IL >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman >> wrote: >> >> Lowell, >> >> The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! >> Care to share details on the rudder trim? >> >> Roberto. >> >> >> ================================= >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List >> ================================= >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ================================= >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ================================= >> >> >> -- >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuild >> Rockford,IL >> www.matronics.com/contribution _- >> ========================================================= > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:13:12 AM PST US > From: Catz631@aol.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to > be > back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for > a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much > room > > to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging > around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks > ago > we > > had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in > a > cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his > cell > > phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job > of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we > did > > it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled > and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to > have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment > and utility of my aircraft! > > Dick > Maddux > Milton,Fl > Fox 4, > 912UL > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:46:41 AM PST US > From: "JC Propeller Design" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in > the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with > woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my > brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to > figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy > to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear > for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have > much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice > job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, > but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > Dick > Maddux > > Milton,Fl > Fox > 4, 912UL > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:58:39 AM PST US > From: Guy Buchanan > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: >> I struggle a bit with the idea that a hobby like ours that really >> thrives in the social setting would have us essentially hiding behind >> a made up name. I guess I could understand it better if we were >> hiding from something. > > Nah. We'd just use our call-signs /everywhere/; like the fly boys do. > Instead of Viper and Maverick, it would be "49aero" and "I love pizza". > (Random sample.) Wouldn't /you /like to walk around the Desert Fox > Fly-in being called "I love pizza"? > >> Then again, my error, as Lynn reminds me, might be a good reason to >> re-subscribe to this list with a made up name. > > HAHAHAHA! Like we wouldn't know. > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:05:06 AM PST US > From: Guy Buchanan > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: >> No shutters on the radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great >> - contact Mark. > > Yeah. I'm trying that too. Got an interesting one from the web that's > very clean. Installs in-line. > (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bob-1-Universal-Kit-with-One-Inch-Fittings- > TB1.htm) > >> The oil cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture >> is the mount style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The >> shutters have half inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. > > Your mount is sexy. Glad I hadn't made mine yet. And I just bought a new > tube bender. Do you still market the vanes? What's the time lag on a > temperature change after you adjust them? > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:15:38 AM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Thanks Dick, > > I had a chat with my hangar mate early on - he is retired AA and in fact > mentioned that the 747 that piggy backs the shuttle that is on tour was > in the AA inventory when he was flying and had flown it a lot. Anyway > our talk was about the difference I felt while there and contrasted to > here in a residential airpark community. Here they are neighbors with > all our imperfections and all the neighborhood intrigues. There it is > all airplanes and friends. Nearby there is a pizza spot and you never > see the guys during lunchtime as they are together once again there. > Building at home can be a lonely experience. > Lowell > > > From: Catz631@aol.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:12 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to > be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear > for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have > much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging > around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks > ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field > landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He > called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice > job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, > but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > Dick > Maddux > > Milton,Fl > Fox 4, > 912UL > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:25:27 AM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has > been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned > that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less > expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". >>From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she was actually > saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet retired and > still has the financial flexibility. There might just be motive though. > She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At > least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in > the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with > woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my > brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to > figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy > to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear > for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have > much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice > job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, > but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > Dick > Maddux > > Milton,Fl > Fox > 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:26:44 AM PST US > From: Lynn Matteson > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, > Dick. : ) > > At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of > which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote: > >> Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are >> happy to be back in the air! >> By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his >> underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox >> doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? >> I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies >> hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example >> a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who >> had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area >> filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone. >> The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a >> nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was >> finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." >> A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly >> disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! >> Buddies are good to have !!! >> Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the >> enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! >> >> >> Dick Maddux >> >> Milton,Fl >> >> Fox 4, 912UL >> www.matronics.com/contribution _- >> ========================================================= > > > ________________________________ Message 10 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:35:59 AM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > > Lynn, I agree. > I started on the email list in about 1994. It was after seeing some print > outs from the list at one of the first factory fly-ins after starting my > first Model IV. I read every post - 532s, 582s, 912s Model Is - > everything. > > I learned a ton about Kitfoxes and the guy with the model I flying behind > a > 532, just might have the answer you were looking for. With all the > compartmentalizing there is a lot that gets missed. I was having the > rough > running band between 3 and 4000 RPM and found the answer in the Matronix > archives after a long search on the other site. I just wish there was > more > activity, but the other site is way down now as well. > Lowell > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Lynn Matteson" > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > >> >> Besides all that, that site seems like a bunch of people who have >> "jumped > >> ship", or went for the newest gadget, as it were. I like the Matronics >> venue because it gets mailed to my computer and I don't have to go >> hunting for it....my visits there are infrequent at best. >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >> Jabiru 2200, #2062 >> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) >> Status: flying with 1361 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) >> do not archive >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: >> >>> Lowell, Glad to hear your airborne again. It's also good to see all the >>> replies. I thought Team Kitfox, or whatever that other site is, took >>> all > >>> the Kitfoxers. I haven't seen much activiy on Matronix. I like the >>> Matronix format 10 times better. The few times I went to the Team >>> Kitfox > >>> site I had to memorize pin #'s and go to this file or that file. KISS >>> is > >>> the principle when it comes to websites as far as I'm concerned. >>> Matronix is as simple as it gets. The more #'s I have to remember and >>> damn buttons I have to push is inversely propotional to how much I use >>> a > >>> site. >>> >>> Pat Reilly >>> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt >>> Rockford, IL >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Roberto Waltman >>> wrote: >>> >>> Lowell, >>> >>> The plane looks beautiful, congratulations! >>> Care to share details on the rudder trim? >>> >>> Roberto. >>> >>> >>> ================================= >>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List >>> ================================= >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> ================================= >>> le, List Admin. >>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ================================= >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pat Reilly >>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild >>> Rockford,IL >>> www.matronics.com/contribution _- >>> ========================================================= >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:39:25 AM PST US > From: "rtmarshall" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 > year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR > hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though > has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit > in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with > woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my > brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard > to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 12 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:57:01 AM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > What's the time lag on a temperature change after you adjust them? > > Interesting you ask. I don't know and that bothers me a bit as I have > been playing with them some, but have never watched through an entire > cycle. The reason - I have an intermittent issue with the oil temp > gauge. It is in the Quad gauge from Westach and occasionally it will > peg at max reading. According to their trouble shooting guide pegging > at max is due to the gauge ground being faulty. I did find a poor crimp > and fixed that and it was fine until I started playing with the shutters > in flight. I did find that I can get about a 50=B0 differential reading > open and closed - OAT ~ 95. But, and this is interesting, if I close > them in flight I can watch the temp climb and then pow, it might peg at > max. Then by opening the shutters, it will suddenly give the correct > reading. I seem to have an issue that is only triggered at higher temps. > I have decided that it is the sender and plan on installing a new one > - probably later today or tomorrow. Not trying to be commercial, but we > make an inline thermostat as well. We don't use the bleed line. It is > similar to what is in a car. We do enlarge the bleed hole through the > diaphragm in the thermostat. That is the one I use and it is a 180=B0 > thermostat and works very well. > Lowell > > > From: Guy Buchanan > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:04 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > > On 9/20/2012 10:33 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > No shutters on the radiator - opted for a thermostat. It works great > - contact Mark. > > Yeah. I'm trying that too. Got an interesting one from the web that's > very clean. Installs in-line. > (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bob-1-Universal-Kit-with-One-Inch-Fittin > gs-TB1.htm) > > > The oil cooler is in the same place with shutters. The first picture > is the mount style, but this is a V that I helped a guy finish. The > shutters have half inch vanes instead of the one inch on the last one. > > Your mount is sexy. Glad I hadn't made mine yet. And I just bought a new > tube bender. Do you still market the vanes? What's the time lag on a > temperature change after you adjust them? > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > ________________________________ Message 13 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:00:28 AM PST US > From: Guy Buchanan > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: >> I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, Dick. >> : ) >> >> At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of >> which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) > > I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda handy. ;-) > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > ________________________________ Message 14 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:01:56 AM PST US > From: Guy Buchanan > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > On 9/21/2012 8:38 AM, rtmarshall wrote: >> Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 >> year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in >> OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our >> Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I >> love airplanes and cars! > > I knew that was going to happen. > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > ________________________________ Message 15 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:05:13 AM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the > frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High > Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N > number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number > that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice > curves might mean something too. > Lowell > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 > year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR > hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though > has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit > in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with > woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my > brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard > to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 16 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:11:51 AM PST US > From: Guy Buchanan > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > On 9/21/2012 8:56 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote: >> Not trying to be commercial, but we make an inline thermostat as >> well. We don't use the bleed line. It is similar to what is in a >> car. We do enlarge the bleed hole through the diaphragm in the >> thermostat. That is the one I use and it is a 180 thermostat and >> works very well. > > Didn't know you guys made one. Oh well. Maybe we should allow and > encourage "press releases" so everyone would know what was out there. > Did see the oil louvers, though, so I'll contact you off-line about that. > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > ________________________________ Message 17 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:21:36 AM PST US > From: "JC Propeller Design" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of you. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rtmarshall > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 > year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR > hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though > has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to > sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong > with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as > my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but > hard to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 18 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:22:43 AM PST US > From: Lynn Matteson > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > I carry one of those hospital-supplied plastic "catch cans" in my > 'fox.....one day I was flying over a lake in Ohio and watching all > the waterskiers, etc., and suddenly it hit me that I had to > go....BAD! So I adjusted myself and the catch can (intergalactic > docking?) and somehow the plane started to dive..I had nudged the > stick a bit with the catch can. When telling my flight instructor > about this, I got to the part about the plane diving, and he said "it > changed the CG THAT much?" We had a good chuckle.... > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote: > >> On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: >>> I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, >>> Dick. : ) >>> >>> At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing >>> of which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does) : ) >> >> I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda >> handy. ;-) >> >> Guy Buchanan >> Ramona, CA >> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded >> Now a glider pilot, too. >> >> ============================================================ _- >> ============================================================ _- >> contribution_- >> ========================================================= > > > ________________________________ Message 19 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:07:04 AM PST US > From: Roberto Waltman > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > > Lowell Fitt wrote: >> Building at home can be a lonely experience. > > As is my "KF fixing up" in an airport one hour away, were it often seems > I am the only person around. (Not counting the planes taxiing by and > forcing me to stop working to move my plane around.) > > Hey, at home at least you have the fridge and bathroom nearby! > > Roberto. > > > ________________________________ Message 20 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:08:57 PM PST US > From: "rtmarshall" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up > with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating > each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers > and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. > Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are > in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and > soars... much better than expected! > > I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was > teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! > Toodie > KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of > you. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rtmarshall > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a > 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in > OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, > though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to > sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong > with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as > my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but > hard to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 21 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:57:03 PM PST US > From: "rtmarshall" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Do you happen to know Bob McKay? He is older now and I don't think he > flies any more but did a lot at our gliderport in Livermore, glider > pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David Prather? He lives on C Park too so > does Bob. > Yep curves are always nice............fun to race with curves in the > race course....of course those would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna > Seca....Sears Point. Life goes on........... Very Nice job, a real > beauty!! Toodie > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the > frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High > Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N > number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number > that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice > curves might mean something too. > Lowell > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 > year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR > hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though > has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to > sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong > with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as > my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but > hard to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 22 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:29:30 PM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on > the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four > hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the > two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn > tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. > Her favorite is the B-747. > Lowell > > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up > with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating > each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers > and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. > Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are > in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and > soars... much better than expected! > > I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was > teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! > Toodie > KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of > you. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rtmarshall > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a > 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in > OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, > though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to > sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong > with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as > my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but > hard to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 23 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:39:54 PM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Don't know any of them well. I tend to be a hangar rat and don't get up > the street much. They are all on Boeing Rd. I am sure if I drove past > their places coming and going, I would know them better. My first Model > IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did final assembly there then we > moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San Ramon. > Lowell > > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Do you happen to know Bob McKay? He is older now and I don't think he > flies any more but did a lot at our gliderport in Livermore, glider > pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David Prather? He lives on C Park too so > does Bob. > Yep curves are always nice............fun to race with curves in the > race course....of course those would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna > Seca....Sears Point. Life goes on........... Very Nice job, a real > beauty!! Toodie > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Toodie, Glad for your note. Julie Clark as a neighbor, so have the > frequent reminder that our hobby is widely appreciated. You say High > Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras. Folks ask the significance of my N > number N338S. The Sierra is explained above and the 338 is a number > that I found easy to say. And maybe the fact that they all have nice > curves might mean something too. > Lowell > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 > year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR > hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though > has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to > sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong > with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as > my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but > hard to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are > happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies > hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a > few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an > off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with > trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a > nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the > enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 24 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:59:44 PM PST US > From: "rtmarshall" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Due southwest of Reno....17 miles to Hwy 395. Big valley here. You're > right flying in the Rocket we were there in less than an hour......hour > to Truckee driving another hr to Auburn then over to your area another > hr. via Hwy 49 now there a road with curves! > > That's a shame....the fox is really fun just kinda slow! After the > Rocket anything is slow! Boooo B-747 toooo big! But that makes us all > different......and exciting. > Toodie > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on > the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four > hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the > two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn > tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. > Her favorite is the B-747. > Lowell > > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up > with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating > each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers > and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. > Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are > in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and > soars... much better than expected! > > I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was > teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! > Toodie > KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of > you. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rtmarshall > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as > a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes > in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, > though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice > to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong > with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as > my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but > hard to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you > are happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his > buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an > example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who > had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled > with trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did > a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to > the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 25 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:07:09 PM PST US > From: "rtmarshall" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Okay, if it was before 1989 our glider field was at the outer marker for > LVK......just adjacent to LLNL where a lot of the pilots worked. > Hummingbird Haven....named for the first tandem 2 place motorglider. > Club had to relocate once again to Byron (old airport) then moved to the > new bigger one. We lived on Old School Rd. at the turn on Tassajara Rd. > then out in the country....not so now. Blackhawk came later. Probably > knew some of the same people....had a C-206T at LVK. > Toodie > > > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:39 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Don't know any of them well. I tend to be a hangar rat and don't get > up the street much. They are all on Boeing Rd. I am sure if I drove > past their places coming and going, I would know them better. My first > Model IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did final assembly there then > we moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San Ramon. > Lowell > > > ________________________________ Message 26 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:22:49 PM PST US > From: "Lowell Fitt" > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > Had to laugh again. Highway 49. We took that "once" to go east on 80 > and it was the first and only time I have ever gotten motion sickness > while behind the wheel. Never again. > Lowell > > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Due southwest of Reno....17 miles to Hwy 395. Big valley here. You're > right flying in the Rocket we were there in less than an hour......hour > to Truckee driving another hr to Auburn then over to your area another > hr. via Hwy 49 now there a road with curves! > > That's a shame....the fox is really fun just kinda slow! After the > Rocket anything is slow! Boooo B-747 toooo big! But that makes us all > different......and exciting. > Toodie > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it looks like you are on > the East slope. Probably an hour flight from here, but my guess four > hours or more by car. Real neighbors though, by comparison. I envy the > two passionate at home. My other is supportive, but after the Lynn > tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in the little one again. > Her favorite is the B-747. > Lowell > > > From: rtmarshall > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Thanks..............wish there were more women flying too. I grew up > with the guys we were all young and fit in fine with everyone treating > each other with kindness. In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers > and needed the help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air. > Fun times, things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are > in our later years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and > soars... much better than expected! > > I love hangar flying..........we did it a lot after soaring! I was > teasing about Bob................he is at our hangar more than me. LOL! > Toodie > KF-4 1200 O02 Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep. > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Every rule have an ... aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of > you. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rtmarshall > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as > a 14 year old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes > in OUR hangar! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc. I love > airplanes and cars! > Toodie > KF4-1200 > High Sierras CA > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Jan, > Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, > though has been really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I > mentioned that I would likely just get liability coverage because it > was much less expensive. Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the > full coverage". From me - "That would really hurt my budget". What she > was actually saying is that she would pay the premium. She is not yet > retired and still has the financial flexibility. There might just be > motive though. She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen > days a month. At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or > Sydney. > Lowell > > > From: JC Propeller Design > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice > to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong > with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as > my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my > car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only > guy. > > Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but > hard to figure out. > > Jan > www.jcpropellerdesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > > > Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you > are happy to be back in the air! > By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his > underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox > doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn? > I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his > buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an > example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who > had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled > with trees. He called us on his cell phone. > The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did > a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding > him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." > A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly > disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! > Buddies are good to have !!! > Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to > the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft! > > > Dick Maddux > > Milton,Fl > > Fox 4, 912UL > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 27 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:25:26 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air > From: Michael Gibbs > > Toodie, any more like you at home? :-) > > Mike G. > Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6-3/4 > Phoenix, AZ > > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 8:38 AM, "rtmarshall" wrote: > >> Sorry guys!~ But I've been flying for over 50 years! Started as a 14 >> yea > r old GIRL in Gliders! And I raced cars! We have a Mercedes in OUR > hangar > ! I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our > Kitfox................. > .........we've owned many airplanes etc. I love airplanes and cars! >> Toodie >> KF4-1200 >> High Sierras CA >> From: Lowell Fitt >> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air >> >> Jan, >> Had to laugh. The philosophy - right on the spot. My wife, though has >> be > en really supportive. Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned that > I > w > ould likely just get liability coverage because it was much less > expensive. > Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage". =46rom me - > "Th > at would really hurt my budget". What she was actually saying is that she > w > ould pay the premium. She is not yet retired and still has the financial > fl > exibility. There might just be motive though. She is a flight attendant > fo > r UAL and is gone fifteen days a month. At least she knows where I am > when > s > he is in Shanghai or Sydney. >> Lowell >> >> From: JC Propeller Design >> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air >> >> Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in >> t > he hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, > but > they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law > s > ay, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a > Mercury > in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy. >> >> Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to >> f > igure out. >> >> Jan >> www.jcpropellerdesign.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Catz631@aol.com >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:12 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air >> >> Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to >> b > e back in the air! >> By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear >> for > a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much > roo > m to talk...right Lynn? >> I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging >> ar > ound as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago > we > had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in > a > cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his > cel > l phone. >> The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job > o > f landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we > did > i > t with a friends Champ and our "ground crew." >> A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly >> disassembled > and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to > ha > ve !!! >> Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the >> enjoyment > and utility of my aircraft! >> >> Dick >> Mad > dux >> > Milton,Fl > >> Fox 4, >> 9 > 12UL >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh > ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh > ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh > ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> >> > ======================== > ======= > ======================== > ======= > ======================== > ======= > ======================== > ======= >> > > ________________________________ Message 28 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:27:24 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > From: Stan Specht > > Hi Lowell- > > > I'm pleased to hear of your recent success, and what a beauty it is!! I'm > l > ooking forward to seeing it in person one of these days. Please keep > postin > g as your fly-off proceeds. > > > Secondarily, it's nice to see this list become active again. I was > starting > to fear it had dried up and flown away! I, too, enjoy it much better than > the other list in that it is more personable and interactive. Let's keep > it > humming, guys and gals! > > > Hey, pretty good---I didn't even pick on Lynn!!! > > > Stan Specht > Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912 UL with over 1935 hours > Denver, Colorado > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lowell Fitt > Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am > Subject: Kitfox-List: Back in the Air > > > I've been flying my new Model IV for the past couple of weeks and thought > i > t timely to post some thoughts.... > Lowell > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:10 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 09/21/12 On 9/22/2012 5:06 PM, Ed Gray wrote: > The next Fox, model 4 Speedster with Viking power, clipped, > re-attachable wingtips and aluminum upper fore wing skins is underway. Ed, What do you hear about the Viking's service life? Any problems? What's the TBO and how many, (if any,) engines have made it. It's a very pretty engine and looks like a good potential replacement for the 912. I hope they succeed. (Though it will be a good long time until I do another engine swap.) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:33 PM PST US From: Roberto Waltman Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Back in the AirBack in the Air Michael wrote: > ... any more like you at home? :-) Michael, write to the administrators of http://www.ladieslovetaildraggers.com/ and ask them to create a "Personals" section. ;) Roberto. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:54 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Jury strut fairings From: Roger McConnell Ed, After you added those fairings, did you notice any gain in air speed? Roger McConnell Model 7 Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:26 PM, "Ed Gray" wrote: > > My quick and simple jury strut fairings: I bought balsa elevator strips at > RC hobby store (about one inch chord, wedge shaped), made concave in thick > edge with #50 sandpaper wrapped around a dowell. Glued balsa to the struts > with Gorilla glue, then wrapped the whole thing with aluminum tape, scuffed > the aluminum and spray painted it. Looked good and took an hour or so. Try > it! 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