Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 01/16/13


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 02:11 AM - Re: Trailer for Tri-Gear  (Dave)
     2. 02:44 AM - Re: Trailer for Tri-Gear (Sacha)
     3. 06:28 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 (Eric & Christine McKenney)
     4. 11:36 AM - michigan seminar (Malcolm Brubaker)
     5. 12:40 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 (Sacha)
     6. 03:58 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 (Dave)
     7. 04:04 PM - Re: Trailer for Tri-Gear (Dave)
     8. 08:03 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 (James Shumaker)
     9. 10:27 PM - Re: Trailer for tri-gear (Sacha)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:11:14 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Trailer for Tri-Gear
    I have a trailer here that was used to move a Kitfox 2 trigear. Essentially the same as a taildragger trailer where you winch it on backwards.but you would bolt on a set of rollers to the tailspring mount area and these ride in a door track and this makes the plane in a level configuration. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sacha" <uuccio@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear > > Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a > tri-gear Kitfox? > Sacha > > >


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    Time: 02:44:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailer for Tri-Gear
    From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com>
    Hi Dave I just saw the pics on your website. Makes sense. Thanks Sacha On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:10, "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> wrote: > > I have a trailer here that was used to move a Kitfox 2 trigear. > > Essentially the same as a taildragger trailer where you winch it on backwards.but you would bolt on a set of rollers to the tailspring mount area and these ride in a door track and this makes the plane in a level configuration. > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sacha" <uuccio@gmail.com> > To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:43 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear > > >> >> Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a tri-gear Kitfox? >> Sacha >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 06:28:26 AM PST US
    From: Eric & Christine McKenney <themckenneys@hotmail.com>
    Subject: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13
    A trailer to handle a tri-gear=2C could be as simple as a snowmobile traile r( there are tons of them around if you look=2C safer would be a boat trai ler modified for the third wheel in front. > Date: Wed=2C 16 Jan 2013 00:01:54 -0800 > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > To: kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 > > * > > ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=h tml&Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=t xt&Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > > ======================== ======================= > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ======================= > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kitfox-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/15/13: 5 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:11 PM - Newbie Question (DGaudette) > 2. 06:41 PM - Re: Newbie Question (bjones@dmv.com) > 3. 08:49 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Guy Buchanan) > 4. 09:43 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Richard Weiss) > 5. 10:44 PM - Trailer for Tri-Gear (Sacha) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 ____________________________ _________ > > > Time: 06:11:32 PM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > From: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > Hello. > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm co nsidering > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere wh ere > someone has compared the two. > > Any advice? > > I'm specifically looking at the KF=2C Kolb or Avid because when I owned a Gyroplane=2C > I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kept it in my ba rn > and avoided hanger fees etc. > > Any thoughts folks? > > Thanks. > > Doug > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 ____________________________ _________ > > > Time: 06:41:17 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > From: bjones@dmv.com > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV=2C Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on a > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between home > and airport. > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail=2C fold the wings=2C tow one mile to > house=2C pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 minutes =2C > period. > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind a > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing th e > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years=2C > covering over 75=2C000 =2Cmiles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. All > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > My 25th plane=2C smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 40 > years of flying. > > Thought about a Kolb=2C with Rotax 912=2C and flew one but the Kitfox won . > > HAVE FUN! > > BJ > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > > Hello. > > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm > > considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't fi nd > > anywhere where someone has compared the two. > > > > Any advice? > > > > I'm specifically looking at the KF=2C Kolb or Avid because when I owned a > > Gyroplane=2C I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I k ept > > it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > > > > Any thoughts folks? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Doug > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 ____________________________ _________ > > > Time: 08:49:18 PM PST US > From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > On 1/15/2013 6:10 PM=2C DGaudette wrote: > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm considering > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere wh ere > someone has compared the two. > > > > Any advice? > > > > > Yes. The best plane is the one you're flying. Buy either one=2C they're > both great. Then fly the crap out of it. Then sell it. Then buy the > other one. Fly the crap out of that. Then tell us which one you liked. =3B-) > > Obviously=2C this being a Kitfox site we'll pitch the Kitfox. However > there is one thing the Kitfox has that the Kolb might not=2C in spite of > whatever flying qualities it has=2C and that's a /great /community. The > Kitfox guys are a wonderful bunch to hang with and they get together > regularly locally=2C regionally=2C and nationally. When they get together > there's a lot of tall tales and a /lot /of flying. (With inevitably more > tall tales as a result.) The flying's always fun=2C not just burger runs =2C > usually involving terrorizing the surrounding community with low level > daring-do=2C water skiing (in the aircraft=2C) and impromptu follow-the-l eader. > > That's my take. > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona=2C CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot=2C too. > > PS. Make sure you ask this over on Team Kitfox. You might get a more > "heated" response. > > ________________________________ Message 4 ____________________________ _________ > > > Time: 09:43:40 PM PST US > From: Richard Weiss <MDKitfox@aol.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > BJ=2C > > Could you send me your email so I may contact you about your > adventures? My email is below. > > Thanks=2C > > Rick Weiss > Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) > Rotax 912S=2C Dynon Sky View > Spruce Creek Fly In=2C FL > MDKitfox@aol.com > > > On Jan 15=2C 2013=2C at 9:56 PM=2C bjones@dmv.com wrote: > > > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV=2C Rotax 912 80hp into a socket o n > a > > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between > home > > and airport. > > > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail=2C fold the wings=2C tow one mi le > to > > house=2C pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 > minutes=2C > > period. > > > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind > a > > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing > the > > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years=2C > > covering over 75=2C000 =2Cmiles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road . > All > > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > > > My 25th plane=2C smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 4 0 > > > years of flying. > > > > Thought about a Kolb=2C with Rotax 912=2C and flew one but the Kitfox w on. > > > > HAVE FUN! > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > >> > >> Hello. > >> > >> I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. > I'm > >> considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't > find > >> anywhere where someone has compared the two. > >> > >> Any advice? > >> > >> I'm specifically looking at the KF=2C Kolb or Avid because when I owne d > a > >> Gyroplane=2C I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I > kept > >> it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > >> > >> Any thoughts folks? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 ____________________________ _________ > > > Time: 10:44:46 PM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear > From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com> > > > Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a tri- gear Kitfox? > Sacha > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > >


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    Time: 11:36:08 AM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: michigan seminar
    michigan kit foxers =0A=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pi lot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGr eat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A =C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A----- Forwarded Message -----=0AFrom: "aviators12@ao l.com" <aviators12@aol.com>=0ATo: aerograf@power-net.net; brubakermal@yahoo .com =0ASent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:03 PM=0ASubject: Fwd: Flushing Safety Seminar Request=0A =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A-----Original Message----- =0AFrom: Krashen, Tom (MDOT) (MDOT) <KrashenT@michigan.gov>=0ATo: 'aviators 12@aol.com' <aviators12@aol.com>=0ASent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 8:24 am=0ASubjec t: RE: Flushing Safety Seminar Request=0A=0A=0ARick, =0AI=99ve attach ed a flyer for the Feb 16 Safety Seminar. Feel free to distribute as you se e fit. =0AThank you for sponsoring the program. =0ATom Krashen =0A=C2- =0ATom Krashen =0APilot and Safety Officer =0AMDOT, Office of Aeronautics =0A517-335-9977 =0A517-896-1108 (cell) =0AFrom:aviators12@aol.com [mailto:a viators12@aol.com?] =0ASent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:57PM=0ATo: Krashe n, Tom (MDOT)=0ASubject: Re: Flushing Safety Seminar Request =0A=0AThe semi nar is being sponsored be the Michigan Ultralight Light Sport Associan (MUL A). Your program will be followed by a presentation by Dennis Demeter on th e Annual condition inspection. =0AThe location is in the EAA Chapter 77 cl ub house located DALTON AIRPORT (3DA) =0A3400 Ann Drive =0AFlushing, MI 484 33 =0A=C2- =0A=C2- =0A=C2- =0A=C2- =0A-----Original Message---- -=0AFrom: Krashen, Tom (MDOT) (MDOT) <KrashenT@michigan.gov>=0ATo: 'Hayes A ero' <aviators12@aol.com>; aerograf <aerograf@power-net.net>; brubakermal < brubakermal@yahoo.com>=0ASent: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:49 am=0ASubject: RE: Flu shing Safety Seminar Request =0ARick, =0AI understand we=99re going to start the seminar at 12:00. Please let me know which building it will be in (please include the street address if you can) and who should be listed as sponsors for the event. I=99ll send out email notices and post th e event on the FAA=99s Safety website in a couple of weeks. =0AThank s. =0ATom Krashen =0A=C2- =0ATom Krashen =0APilot and Safety Officer =0AMDOT, Office of Aeronautics =0A517-335-9977 =0A517-896-1108 (cell) =0AFrom:Hayes Aero [mailto:aviators12@aol.com?] =0ASent: Friday, December 2 8, 2012 8:20AM=0ATo: Krashen, Tom (MDOT); aerograf@power-net.net; brubakerm al@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: Flushing Safety Seminar Request =0A=C2- =0A Tom=0ALets go with The Top 10 Things Every VFR Pilot Should Know.=0ALet me know how we can help.=0AThanks=0ARick Hayes =0A=C2- =0A=C2- =0A-- ---Original Message-----=0AFrom: Krashen, Tom (MDOT) (MDOT) <KrashenT@michi gan.gov>=0ATo: Fricke, T. (MDOT) <FrickeT@michigan.gov>; Hayes Aero <aviato rs12@aol.com>=0ASent: Thu, Dec 27, 2012 1:20 pm=0ASubject: RE: Flushing Saf ety Seminar Request =0ARick, =0AThanks for your interest in hosting a pi lot safety meeting on February 16. At the present time, I have 5 presentati ons which are current: =0A1.=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The Top 10 Things Every VFR Pilot Should Know =0A2.=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2- The Top 10 Things Every IFR Pilot Should Know =0A3.=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2- It=99s Legal, but is it Safe? =0A4.=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- How Airplanes Fly (and why they sometimes don =99t) =93 a review of aerodynamics =0A5.=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2- ATC Communications. =0APlease contact me so we can discus s the details. =0AThanks again. =0ATom Krashen =0A=C2- =0ATom Kra shen =0APilot and Safety Officer =0AMDOT, Office of Aeronautics =0A51 7-335-9977 =0A517-896-1108 (cell) =0AFrom:Fricke, T. (MDOT) =0ASent: T hursday, December 27, 2012 8:40AM=0ATo: Hayes Aero=0ACc: Krashen, Tom (MDOT )=0ASubject: RE: Flushing Safety Seminar Request =0A=C2- =0AGood Mo rning Rick =93 =0A=C2- =0AI did have a very nice Christmas, th ank you! Has everything been taken care of with your dealer license? =0A =C2- =0ATom Krashen will be presenting on February 16, I have cced him on this email. Tom=99s office number is (517)335-9977. He will work o ut the details with you. =0A=C2- =0AThank you, =0A=C2- =0ATera Fricke =0AOffice of Aeronautics =0A517-335-9792 =0Africket@michigan. gov =0A=C2- =0AFrom:Hayes Aero [mailto:aviators12@aol.com] =0ASent: T hursday, December 27, 2012 8:29AM=0ATo: Fricke, T. (MDOT); brubakermal@yaho o.com=0ASubject: Re: Flushing Safety Seminar Request =0A=C2- =0AHi Te ra=0AHope you had a good Christmas. Do you have any details on the seminar we can send out in our news letters?=0AThanks=0ARick Hayes=0A248-462-9338 =0A=C2- =0A=C2- =0A=C2- =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFro m: Fricke, T. (MDOT) <FrickeT@michigan.gov>=0ATo: aviators12 <aviators12@ao l.com>=0ASent: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 4:09 pm=0ASubject: Flushing Safety Seminar Request =0ARick =93 =0A=C2- =0AWe have you on the calenda r for Saturday, February 16th with an approximant start time of noon. I spo ke with those in our building who present safety seminars, no one is an exp ert on LSA but I would be happy to put together a custom briefing for a day VFR pilot. If there is something particular you believe your chapter would benefit from, please let me know and we can add it to the seminar. Once we have all the details, I will post the seminar on http://www.faasafety.gov/ and www.michigan.gov/aero. =C2- =0A=C2- =0AFeel free to contact me with any questions. =0A=C2- =0AThank you, =0A=C2- =0ATer a Fricke =0AOffice of Aeronautics =0A517-335-9792 =0Africket@michi gan.gov


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    Time: 12:40:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13
    From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com>
    Eric/Christine Thanks, i think I'll have a look around a few boat yards to see if I find so mething that can easily be adapted. On 16/gen/2013, at 15:27, Eric & Christine McKenney <themckenneys@hotmail.co m> wrote: > A trailer to handle a tri-gear, could be as simple as a snowmobile trailer ( there are tons of them around if you look, safer would be a boat trailer m odified for the third wheel in front. > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:01:54 -0800 > > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > To: kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > > Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 > > > > * > > > > ======================== > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > ======================== > > > > Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the > > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > > of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > > > HTML Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html &Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > > > Text Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt& Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > > > > > ====================== > > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > > ====================== > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Kitfox-List Digest Archive > > --- > > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/15/13: 5 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Today's Message Index: > > ---------------------- > > > > 1. 06:11 PM - Newbie Question (DGaudette) > > 2. 06:41 PM - Re: Newbie Question (bjones@dmv.com) > > 3. 08:49 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Guy Buchanan) > > 4. 09:43 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Richard Weiss) > > 5. 10:44 PM - Trailer for Tri-Gear (Sacha) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 06:11:32 PM PST US > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > From: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > > > > Hello. > > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm co nsidering > > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere whe re > > someone has compared the two. > > > > Any advice? > > > > I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned a G yroplane, > > I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kept it in my ba rn > > and avoided hanger fees etc. > > > > Any thoughts folks? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Doug > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 06:41:17 PM PST US > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > From: bjones@dmv.com > > > > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on a > > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between hom e > > and airport. > > > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold the wings, tow one mile to > > house, pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 minutes, > > period. > > > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind a > > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing t he > > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years, > > covering over 75,000 ,miles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. All > > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > > > My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 40 > > years of flying. > > > > Thought about a Kolb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won. > > > > HAVE FUN! > > > > BJ > > > > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm > > > considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't fin d > > > anywhere where someone has compared the two. > > > > > > Any advice? > > > > > > I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned a > > > Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kep t > > > it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > > > > > > Any thoughts folks? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 08:49:18 PM PST US > > From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > > > On 1/15/2013 6:10 PM, DGaudette wrote: > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm c onsidering > > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere whe re > > someone has compared the two. > > > > > > Any advice? > > > > > > > > Yes. The best plane is the one you're flying. Buy either one, they're > > both great. Then fly the crap out of it. Then sell it. Then buy the > > other one. Fly the crap out of that. Then tell us which one you liked. ; -) > > > > Obviously, this being a Kitfox site we'll pitch the Kitfox. However > > there is one thing the Kitfox has that the Kolb might not, in spite of > > whatever flying qualities it has, and that's a /great /community. The > > Kitfox guys are a wonderful bunch to hang with and they get together > > regularly locally, regionally, and nationally. When they get together > > there's a lot of tall tales and a /lot /of flying. (With inevitably more > > tall tales as a result.) The flying's always fun, not just burger runs, > > usually involving terrorizing the surrounding community with low level > > daring-do, water skiing (in the aircraft,) and impromptu follow-the-lead er. > > > > That's my take. > > > > Guy Buchanan > > Ramona, CA > > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > > PS. Make sure you ask this over on Team Kitfox. You might get a more > > "heated" response. > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 09:43:40 PM PST US > > From: Richard Weiss <MDKitfox@aol.com> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > > > BJ, > > > > Could you send me your email so I may contact you about your > > adventures? My email is below. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rick Weiss > > Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) > > Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View > > Spruce Creek Fly In, FL > > MDKitfox@aol.com > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:56 PM, bjones@dmv.com wrote: > > > > > > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on > > a > > > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between > > home > > > and airport. > > > > > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold the wings, tow one mile > > to > > > house, pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 > > minutes, > > > period. > > > > > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind > > a > > > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing > > the > > > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years, > > > covering over 75,000 ,miles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. > > All > > > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > > > > > My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 40 > > > > > years of flying. > > > > > > Thought about a Kolb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won. > > > > > > HAVE FUN! > > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > > > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > >> > > >> Hello. > > >> > > >> I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. > > I'm > > >> considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't > > find > > >> anywhere where someone has compared the two. > > >> > > >> Any advice? > > >> > > >> I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned > > a > > >> Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I > > kept > > >> it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > > >> > > >> Any thoughts folks? > > >> > > >> Thanks. > > >> > > >> Doug > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Read this topic online here: > > >> > > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 10:44:46 PM PST US > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear > > From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com> > > > > > > Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a tri -gear Kitfox? > > Sacha > > >======================== > > > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 03:58:27 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13
    Why would you want to tow it with the nose facing frontwards? ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric & Christine McKenney To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:27 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 A trailer to handle a tri-gear, could be as simple as a snowmobile trailer( there are tons of them around if you look, safer would be a boat trailer modified for the third wheel in front. > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:01:54 -0800 > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > To: kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 > > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > > ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kitfox-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/15/13: 5 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:11 PM - Newbie Question (DGaudette) > 2. 06:41 PM - Re: Newbie Question (bjones@dmv.com) > 3. 08:49 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Guy Buchanan) > 4. 09:43 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Richard Weiss) > 5. 10:44 PM - Trailer for Tri-Gear (Sacha) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:11:32 PM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > From: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > Hello. > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm considering > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere where > someone has compared the two. > > Any advice? > > I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned a Gyroplane, > I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kept it in my barn > and avoided hanger fees etc. > > Any thoughts folks? > > Thanks. > > Doug > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:41:17 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > From: bjones@dmv.com > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on a > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between home > and airport. > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold the wings, tow one mile to > house, pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 minutes, > period. > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind a > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing the > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years, > covering over 75,000 ,miles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. All > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 40 > years of flying. > > Thought about a Kolb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won. > > HAVE FUN! > > BJ > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > > Hello. > > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm > > considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find > > anywhere where someone has compared the two. > > > > Any advice? > > > > I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned a > > Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kept > > it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > > > > Any thoughts folks? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Doug > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:49:18 PM PST US > From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > On 1/15/2013 6:10 PM, DGaudette wrote: > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm considering > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere where > someone has compared the two. > > > > Any advice? > > > > > Yes. The best plane is the one you're flying. Buy either one, they're > both great. Then fly the crap out of it. Then sell it. Then buy the > other one. Fly the crap out of that. Then tell us which one you liked. ;-) > > Obviously, this being a Kitfox site we'll pitch the Kitfox. However > there is one thing the Kitfox has that the Kolb might not, in spite of > whatever flying qualities it has, and that's a /great /community. The > Kitfox guys are a wonderful bunch to hang with and they get together > regularly locally, regionally, and nationally. When they get together > there's a lot of tall tales and a /lot /of flying. (With inevitably more > tall tales as a result.) The flying's always fun, not just burger runs, > usually involving terrorizing the surrounding community with low level > daring-do, water skiing (in the aircraft,) and impromptu follow-the-leader. > > That's my take. > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > PS. Make sure you ask this over on Team Kitfox. You might get a more > "heated" response. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:43:40 PM PST US > From: Richard Weiss <MDKitfox@aol.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > BJ, > > Could you send me your email so I may contact you about your > adventures? My email is below. > > Thanks, > > Rick Weiss > Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) > Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View > Spruce Creek Fly In, FL > MDKitfox@aol.com > > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:56 PM, bjones@dmv.com wrote: > > > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on > a > > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between > home > > and airport. > > > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold the wings, tow one mile > to > > house, pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 > minutes, > > period. > > > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind > a > > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing > the > > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years, > > covering over 75,000 ,miles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. > All > > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > > > My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 40 > > > years of flying. > > > > Thought about a Kolb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won. > > > > HAVE FUN! > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > >> > >> Hello. > >> > >> I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. > I'm > >> considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't > find > >> anywhere where someone has compared the two. > >> > >> Any advice? > >> > >> I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned > a > >> Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I > kept > >> it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > >> > >> Any thoughts folks? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:44:46 PM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear > From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com> > > > Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a tri-gear Kitfox? > Sacha > >======================== > > > >


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    Time: 04:04:23 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Trailer for Tri-Gear
    http://cfisher.com/trailer/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sacha" <uuccio@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:41 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear > > Hi Dave > I just saw the pics on your website. Makes sense. > Thanks > Sacha > > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:10, "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> wrote: > >> >> I have a trailer here that was used to move a Kitfox 2 trigear. >> >> Essentially the same as a taildragger trailer where you winch it on >> backwards.but you would bolt on a set of rollers to the tailspring mount >> area and these ride in a door track and this makes the plane in a level >> configuration. >> >> Dave >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sacha" <uuccio@gmail.com> >> To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:43 AM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear >> >> >>> >>> Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a >>> tri-gear Kitfox? >>> Sacha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 08:03:49 PM PST US
    From: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13
    Be sure to support the wings.- Bouncing on the highway can bend the fusel age and tweak the frame at the attach points.- Best is to remove the wing s if you have far to travel or stiff suspension.=0A-=0AJim Shumaker=0AKit fox III- 1100 hours=0ARotax 912=0A =0A=0A________________________________ =0A From: Eric & Christine McKenney <themckenneys@hotmail.com>=0ATo: kitfox -list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:27 AM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13=0A =0A=0A =0AA tra iler to handle a tri-gear, could be as simple as a snowmobile trailer( ther e are tons of them around if you look,- safer would be a boat trailer mod ified for the third wheel in front.=0A-=0A=0A> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00: 01:54 -0800=0A> From: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0A> To: kitfox-list-digest@ matronics.com=0A> Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13=0A> =0A> * =0A> =0A> ===================== =====0A> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive=0A> = =========================0A > =0A> Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of t he =0A> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest for matted =0A> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes =0A> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASC II version =0A> of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor =0A> such as Notepad or with a web browser. =0A> =0A> HTML Vers ion:=0A> =0A> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82 701&View=html&Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox=0A> =0A> Text Version :=0A> =0A> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 &View=txt&Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox=0A> =0A> =0A> === =====================0A> EMail V ersion of Today's List Digest Archive=0A> ========== ==============0A> =0A> =0A> ---------- ------------------------------------------------=0A> Kitfox-List Digest Archive=0A> - --=0A> Total Messages Posted Tue 01/15/13: 5=0A> ----------------------------------------------------------=0A> =0A> =0A> Today's Message Index:=0A> ----------------------=0A> =0A> 1. 06: 11 PM - Newbie Question (DGaudette)=0A> 2. 06:41 PM - Re: Newbie Ques tion (bjones@dmv.com)=0A> 3. 08:49 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Guy Buc hanan)=0A> 4. 09:43 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Richard Weiss)=0A> 5. 10:44 PM - Trailer for Tri-Gear (Sacha)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> __________ ______________________ Message 1 _____________________________________=0A > =0A> =0A> Time: 06:11:32 PM PST US=0A> Subject: Kitfox-List: Newbie Quest ion=0A> From: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com>=0A> =0A> =0A> Hello.=0A> =0A> I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm considering=0A> both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't f ind anywhere where=0A> someone has compared the two. =0A> =0A> Any advice? =0A> =0A> I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I o wned a Gyroplane,=0A> I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kept it in my barn=0A> and avoided hanger fees etc. =0A> =0A> Any thoug hts folks?=0A> =0A> Thanks.=0A> =0A> Doug=0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic onl ine here:=0A> =0A> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392 389=0A> =0A> =0A> ________________________________ Message 2 ____________ _________________________=0A> =0A> =0A> Time: 06:41:17 PM PST US=0A> Subjec t: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question=0A> From: bjones@dmv.com=0A> =0A> =0A> I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on a=0A > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between home =0A> and airport.=0A> =0A> It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold th e wings, tow one mile to=0A> house, pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer . That's right 10 minutes,=0A> period.=0A> =0A> I also trailer it in the en closed "car" trailer all over the US behind a=0A> Roadtrek 190 conversion v an. Flying in spectacular locations and doing the=0A> See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years,=0A> covering over 75,000 ,mil es with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. All=0A> very easy and quick if set up properly.=0A> =0A> My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoy able experience in 40 =0A> years of flying.=0A> =0A> Thought about a Kolb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won.=0A> =0A> HAVE FUN!=0A> =0A > BJ=0A> =0A> =0A> I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox- List message=0A> posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com>=0A> >=0A> > H ello.=0A> >=0A> > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a tail dragger. I'm=0A> > considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find=0A> > anywhere where someone has compared the two.=0A> > =0A> > Any advice?=0A> >=0A> > I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned a=0A> > Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my loca l airport 3 miles away. I kept=0A> > it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc.=0A> >=0A> > Any thoughts folks?=0A> >=0A> > Thanks.=0A> >=0A> > Doug =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > Read this topic online here:=0A> >=0A> > http://forums.m atronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A> ____ ____________________________ Message 3 __________________________________ ___=0A> =0A> =0A> Time: 08:49:18 PM PST US=0A> From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchan an@cox.net>=0A> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question=0A> =0A> On 1/15/ 2013 6:10 PM, DGaudette wrote:=0A> > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot lo oking to get a taildragger. I'm considering=0A> both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere where=0A> someone has compared the two.=0A> >=0A> > Any advice?=0A> >=0A> > =0A> Yes. The best plane is t he one you're flying. Buy either one, they're =0A> both great. Then fly the crap out of it. Then sell it. Then buy the =0A> other one. Fly the crap ou t of that. Then tell us which one you liked. ;-)=0A> =0A> Obviously, this b eing a Kitfox site we'll pitch the Kitfox. However =0A> there is one thing the Kitfox has that the Kolb might not, in spite of =0A> whatever flying qu alities it has, and that's a /great /community. The =0A> Kitfox guys are a wonderful bunch to hang with and they get together =0A> regularly locally, regionally, and nationally. When they get together =0A> there's a lot of ta ll tales and a /lot /of flying. (With inevitably more =0A> tall tales as a result.) The flying's always fun, not just burger runs, =0A> usually involv ing terrorizing the surrounding community with low level =0A> daring-do, wa ter skiing (in the aircraft,) and impromptu follow-the-leader.=0A> =0A> Tha t's my take.=0A> =0A> Guy Buchanan=0A> Ramona, CA=0A> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912- S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded=0A> Now a glider pilot, too.=0A> =0A> PS. Make sure you ask this over on Team Kitfox. You might get a more =0A> " heated" response.=0A> =0A> ________________________________ Message 4 ___ __________________________________=0A> =0A> =0A> Time: 09:43:40 PM PST US =0A> From: Richard Weiss <MDKitfox@aol.com>=0A> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: N ewbie Question=0A> =0A> BJ,=0A> =0A> Could you send me your email so I may contact you about your =0A> adventures? My email is below.=0A> =0A> Thank s,=0A> =0A> Rick Weiss=0A> Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) =0A> Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View=0A> Spruce Creek Fly In, FL=0A> MDKitfox@aol.com=0A> =0A> =0A> On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:56 PM, bjones@dmv.com wrote:=0A> =0A> > =0A > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on =0A> a=0A> > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it b etween =0A> home=0A> > and airport.=0A> > =0A> > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold the wings, tow one mile =0A> to=0A> > house, pull it in to its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 =0A> minutes,=0A> > period. =0A> > =0A> > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind =0A> a=0A> > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular l ocations and doing =0A> the=0A> > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years,=0A> > covering over 75,000 ,miles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. =0A> All=0A> > very easy and quick if set up prop erly.=0A> > =0A> > My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoyable ex perience in 40 =0A> =0A> > years of flying.=0A> > =0A> > Thought about a Ko lb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won.=0A> > =0A> > HAVE FUN! =0A> > =0A> > BJ=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message=0A> > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodou g@woh.rr.com>=0A> >> =0A> >> Hello.=0A> >> =0A> >> I'm a former Glider/G.A. /Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. =0A> I'm=0A> >> considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't =0A> find=0A> >> anywhe re where someone has compared the two.=0A> >> =0A> >> Any advice?=0A> >> =0A> >> I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I own ed =0A> a=0A> >> Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I =0A> kept=0A> >> it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc.=0A> > > =0A> >> Any thoughts folks?=0A> >> =0A> >> Thanks.=0A> >> =0A> >> Doug=0A > >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> Read this topic online here:=0A> >> =0A> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389=0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A > >> =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A> ____________________ ____________ Message 5 _____________________________________=0A> =0A> =0A > Time: 10:44:46 PM PST US=0A> Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear =0A> From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com>=0A> =0A> =0A> Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a tri-gear Kitfox?=0A> Sacha=0A> >======================== ====================


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    Time: 10:27:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailer for tri-gear
    From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com>
    Hi James Thanks. The wing tips on my kitfox are (I think) a little shorter than the o riginals so that when folded, the wings end up protruding only slightly from the tail. The first time I trailered it I supported the wings with a bit of foam between the horizontal stabilizer and the wings and then tied the two w ings together. Is this what you had in mind? Regards Sacha On 17/gen/2013, at 05:03, James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Be sure to support the wings. Bouncing on the highway can bend the fusela ge and tweak the frame at the attach points. Best is to remove the wings if you have far to travel or stiff suspension. > > Jim Shumaker > Kitfox III 1100 hours > Rotax 912 > > From: Eric & Christine McKenney <themckenneys@hotmail.com> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:27 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 > > A trailer to handle a tri-gear, could be as simple as a snowmobile trailer ( there are tons of them around if you look, safer would be a boat trailer m odified for the third wheel in front. > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:01:54 -0800 > > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > To: kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > > Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/15/13 > > > > * > > > > ======================== > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > ======================== > > > > Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the > > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > > of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > > > HTML Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html &Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > > > Text Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt& Chapter 13-01-15&Archive=Kitfox > > > > > > ====================== > > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > > ====================== > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Kitfox-List Digest Archive > > --- > > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/15/13: 5 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Today's Message Index: > > ---------------------- > > > > 1. 06:11 PM - Newbie Question (DGaudette) > > 2. 06:41 PM - Re: Newbie Question (bjones@dmv.com) > > 3. 08:49 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Guy Buchanan) > > 4. 09:43 PM - Re: Newbie Question (Richard Weiss) > > 5. 10:44 PM - Trailer for Tri-Gear (Sacha) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 06:11:32 PM PST US > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > From: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > > > > Hello. > > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm co nsidering > > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere whe re > > someone has compared the two. > > > > Any advice? > > > > I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned a G yroplane, > > I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kept it in my ba rn > > and avoided hanger fees etc. > > > > Any thoughts folks? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Doug > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 06:41:17 PM PST US > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > From: bjones@dmv.com > > > > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on a > > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between hom e > > and airport. > > > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold the wings, tow one mile to > > house, pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 minutes, > > period. > > > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind a > > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing t he > > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years, > > covering over 75,000 ,miles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. All > > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > > > My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 40 > > years of flying. > > > > Thought about a Kolb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won. > > > > HAVE FUN! > > > > BJ > > > > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm > > > considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't fin d > > > anywhere where someone has compared the two. > > > > > > Any advice? > > > > > > I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned a > > > Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I kep t > > > it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > > > > > > Any thoughts folks? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 08:49:18 PM PST US > > From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > > > On 1/15/2013 6:10 PM, DGaudette wrote: > > > I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. I'm c onsidering > > both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't find anywhere whe re > > someone has compared the two. > > > > > > Any advice? > > > > > > > > Yes. The best plane is the one you're flying. Buy either one, they're > > both great. Then fly the crap out of it. Then sell it. Then buy the > > other one. Fly the crap out of that. Then tell us which one you liked. ; -) > > > > Obviously, this being a Kitfox site we'll pitch the Kitfox. However > > there is one thing the Kitfox has that the Kolb might not, in spite of > > whatever flying qualities it has, and that's a /great /community. The > > Kitfox guys are a wonderful bunch to hang with and they get together > > regularly locally, regionally, and nationally. When they get together > > there's a lot of tall tales and a /lot /of flying. (With inevitably more > > tall tales as a result.) The flying's always fun, not just burger runs, > > usually involving terrorizing the surrounding community with low level > > daring-do, water skiing (in the aircraft,) and impromptu follow-the-lead er. > > > > That's my take. > > > > Guy Buchanan > > Ramona, CA > > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > > PS. Make sure you ask this over on Team Kitfox. You might get a more > > "heated" response. > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 09:43:40 PM PST US > > From: Richard Weiss <MDKitfox@aol.com> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Newbie Question > > > > BJ, > > > > Could you send me your email so I may contact you about your > > adventures? My email is below. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rick Weiss > > Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) > > Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View > > Spruce Creek Fly In, FL > > MDKitfox@aol.com > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:56 PM, bjones@dmv.com wrote: > > > > > > > > I put the tail wheel of our KITFOX IV, Rotax 912 80hp into a socket on > > a > > > small flatbed trailer ($160 Harbor Freight Tools) and tow it between > > home > > > and airport. > > > > > > It takes me 10 minutes to lift the tail, fold the wings, tow one mile > > to > > > house, pull it into its enclosed "car" trailer. That's right 10 > > minutes, > > > period. > > > > > > I also trailer it in the enclosed "car" trailer all over the US behind > > a > > > Roadtrek 190 conversion van. Flying in spectacular locations and doing > > the > > > See the USA from Your Chevrolet by road. Doing it over ten years, > > > covering over 75,000 ,miles with Kitfox IV in trailer over the road. > > All > > > very easy and quick if set up properly. > > > > > > My 25th plane, smallest and by far the most enjoyable experience in 40 > > > > > years of flying. > > > > > > Thought about a Kolb, with Rotax 912, and flew one but the Kitfox won. > > > > > > HAVE FUN! > > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > I do a seminar at SunN Fun and Sebring on > --> Kitfox-List message > > > posted by: "DGaudette" <gyrodoug@woh.rr.com> > > >> > > >> Hello. > > >> > > >> I'm a former Glider/G.A./Gyro pilot looking to get a taildragger. > > I'm > > >> considering both a Kolb MK III Extra AND a Kitfox IV. I just can't > > find > > >> anywhere where someone has compared the two. > > >> > > >> Any advice? > > >> > > >> I'm specifically looking at the KF, Kolb or Avid because when I owned > > a > > >> Gyroplane, I trailered it to/from my local airport 3 miles away. I > > kept > > >> it in my barn and avoided hanger fees etc. > > >> > > >> Any thoughts folks? > > >> > > >> Thanks. > > >> > > >> Doug > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Read this topic online here: > > >> > > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392389#392389 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________ ________ > > > > > > Time: 10:44:46 PM PST US > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer for Tri-Gear > > From: Sacha <uuccio@gmail.com> > > > > > > Does anyone have pictures or drawings of a trailer that can handle a tri -gear Kitfox? > > Sacha > > >======================== > > > > > > > > > http://wwwf="http://forums.matronics.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_ blank">http:====================== = > rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >




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