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2. 07:05 PM - Re: Program (Richard Weiss)
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There used to be a weight and balance program foating around out there. I u
sed it for my model 2 on the original build. Any ideas where I might find i
t?
Dee
Model ll
KFM 112
N345DY
Sent from Samsung tabletdholly <oue191@yahoo.com> wrote:
In a similar forum discussion=2C John McBean offered this reply:
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How to Cure a Heavy Wing
Re: Trying to correct left roll in cruise flight.
You are entering the "Test Pilot" stage. Be sure you are qualified and comf
ortable with making changes and test flying your aircraft.
Knowing that you are not the builder... I would suggest a reset... assume n
othing.
Check the horizontal stabilizer for correct installation..
Set the wings back to the standard known condition and start from there.
Refer to your manual. 1 degree twist and 1 degree dihedral. Check length of
the rod end thread.
>From that point you can adjust either side.. we will typically decrease th
e angle of incidence first then increase on the opposite wing if needed. tr
y to make changes equal.
For example.. We have a slight left turn.. or a heavy left wing as they say
.
We have determined that we do not have a yaw issue that is causing the left
turn.
We adjust the right wing rear lift strut rod end out 1 turn... record our c
hange and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased Twist (wash-out)
Not enough.. so now we'll adjust the left wing rear lift strut rod end in o
ne turn.. record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Increased Twi
st (wash-out)
Still not enough.. adjust the right wing front lift strut rod end in 1 turn
... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased Twist (wa
sh-out)
Still not enough.. adjust the left wing front lift strut rod end out 1 turn
... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Increased Twist (wa
sh-out)
You may need to make a 1/2 turn or maybe a 1 1/2 turn all depends on the se
verity of the roll rate...
__________________
John McBean
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
208.337.5111
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-Kitfox III 582 Blue/C Grove Spring / Aerocet 1100 Amphibs
-Airdale Avid+ (project) TD / W.I.B. Gear
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Dee,
I have an Excel spreadsheet for a Model 5 if you think that would help.
Also, there's an EAA webinar scheduled for the near future on weight and
balance if you want to learn more on that subject.
Rick Weiss
Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-)
Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View
Spruce Creek Fly-In, FL
MDKitfox@aol.com
On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, henrysfork1 wrote:
> There used to be a weight and balance program foating around out
there. I used it for my model 2 on the original build. Any ideas where I
might find it?
>
> Dee
> Model ll
> KFM 112
> N345DY
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
> dholly <oue191@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> In a similar forum discussion, John McBean offered this reply:
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> How to Cure a Heavy Wing
>
> Re: Trying to correct left roll in cruise flight.
>
> You are entering the "Test Pilot" stage. Be sure you are qualified and
comfortable with making changes and test flying your aircraft.
>
> Knowing that you are not the builder... I would suggest a reset...
assume nothing.
>
> Check the horizontal stabilizer for correct installation..
> Set the wings back to the standard known condition and start from
there.
>
> Refer to your manual. 1 degree twist and 1 degree dihedral. Check
length of the rod end thread.
>
> >=46rom that point you can adjust either side.. we will typically
decrease the angle of incidence first then increase on the opposite wing
if needed. try to make changes equal.
>
> For example.. We have a slight left turn.. or a heavy left wing as
they say.
>
> We have determined that we do not have a yaw issue that is causing the
left turn.
>
> We adjust the right wing rear lift strut rod end out 1 turn... record
our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased Twist (wash-out)
>
> Not enough.. so now we'll adjust the left wing rear lift strut rod end
in one turn.. record our change and pre-flight for a test flight.
Increased Twist (wash-out)
>
> Still not enough.. adjust the right wing front lift strut rod end in 1
turn... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased
Twist (wash-out)
>
> Still not enough.. adjust the left wing front lift strut rod end out 1
turn... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Increased
Twist (wash-out)
>
> You may need to make a 1/2 turn or maybe a 1 1/2 turn all depends on
the severity of the roll rate...
> __________________
> John McBean
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> 208.337.5111
>
> --------
> -Kitfox III 582 Blue/C Grove Spring / Aerocet 1100 Amphibs
> -Airdale Avid+ (project) TD / W.I.B. Gear
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395688#395688
>
>
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On 03/07/2013 07:04 PM, Richard Weiss wrote:
> Dee,
>
> I have an Excel spreadsheet for a Model 5 if you think that would help.
>
> Also, there's an EAA webinar scheduled for the near future on weight
> and balance if you want to learn more on that subject.
>
> Rick Weiss
> Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-)
> Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View
> Spruce Creek Fly-In, FL
> MDKitfox@aol.com <mailto:MDKitfox@aol.com>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, henrysfork1 wrote:
>
>> There used to be a weight and balance program foating around out
>> there. I used it for my model 2 on the original build. Any ideas
>> where I might find it?
>>
>> Dee
>> Model ll
>> KFM 112
>> N345DY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>
>> dholly <oue191@yahoo.com <mailto:oue191@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> <mailto:oue191@yahoo.com>>
>>
>> In a similar forum discussion, John McBean offered this reply:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> How to Cure a Heavy Wing
>>
>> Re: Trying to correct left roll in cruise flight.
>>
>> You are entering the "Test Pilot" stage. Be sure you are qualified
>> and comfortable with making changes and test flying your aircraft.
>>
>> Knowing that you are not the builder... I would suggest a reset...
>> assume nothing.
>>
>> Check the horizontal stabilizer for correct installation..
>> Set the wings back to the standard known condition and start from there.
>>
>> Refer to your manual. 1 degree twist and 1 degree dihedral. Check
>> length of the rod end thread.
>>
>> >From that point you can adjust either side.. we will typically
>> decrease the angle of incidence first then increase on the opposite
>> wing if needed. try to make changes equal.
>>
>> For example.. We have a slight left turn.. or a heavy left wing as
>> they say.
>>
>> We have determined that we do not have a yaw issue that is causing
>> the left turn.
>>
>> We adjust the right wing rear lift strut rod end out 1 turn... record
>> our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased Twist (wash-out)
>>
>> Not enough.. so now we'll adjust the left wing rear lift strut rod
>> end in one turn.. record our change and pre-flight for a test flight.
>> Increased Twist (wash-out)
>>
>> Still not enough.. adjust the right wing front lift strut rod end in
>> 1 turn... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight.
>> Decreased Twist (wash-out)
>>
>> Still not enough.. adjust the left wing front lift strut rod end out
>> 1 turn... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight.
>> Increased Twist (wash-out)
>>
>> You may need to make a 1/2 turn or maybe a 1 1/2 turn all depends on
>> the severity of the roll rate...
>> __________________
>> John McBean
>> www.kitfoxaircraft.com <http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/>
>> 208.337.5111
>>
>> --------
>> -Kitfox III 582 Blue/C Grove Spring / Aerocet 1100 Amphibs
>> -Airdale Avid+ (project) TD / W.I.B. Gear
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395688#395688
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ; - List Contribution Web Site -
>> ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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Here you go off the Kitfox aircraft website!
Steve D
http://kitfoxaircraft.com/Weight%20&%20Balance.htm
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On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, henrysfork1 wrote:
>There used to be a weight and balance program foating around out
>there. I used it for my model 2 on the original build. Any ideas
>where I might find it?
Murle Williams has one on his web site:
http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/downloads.html
Mike G.
Phoenix, AZ
Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster/Kitfox Series 6
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