---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/24/13: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:31 AM - Re: Re: Cheng shin tires (John W. Hart) 2. 05:43 AM - Re: Cheng shin tires (Catz631@aol.com) 3. 07:26 AM - Re: Cheng shin tires (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 4. 08:47 AM - Subject: RotaxEngines-List: ground wire (Joe & Jan Connell) 5. 12:18 PM - Re: Cheng shin tires (Lynn Matteson) 6. 12:43 PM - Re: Cheng shin tires (Pete Christensen) 7. 02:06 PM - Re: Cheng shin tires (fox5flyer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:31:07 AM PST US From: "John W. Hart" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Cheng shin tires *I agree, it ain't the tires. I've had the same tires on a Model IV with Grove gear for 5 years. Bounced at first, but don't anymore. John Hart KF IV NSI Subaru Wilburton,OK * On 6/23/2013 10:13 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > Jeff, Have the same tires at similar pressure on bush gear. I bounced > mine in for a long time. No more. Here's a hint. It ain't the tires > causing the bouncing. > Pat Reilly > Mod3 582 rebuilt > Rockford, IL > > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jeffrey Dill <1dillfamily@gmail.com > > wrote: > > <1dillfamily@gmail.com > > > Funny to find this thread. I just flew around the patch for the > first time with my Kings, that I bought a few years back. Came to > the forum to ask WASSUP with the bouncing? Seems my gear is now > all spring and no shock absorber. I put 8 PSI in them and came > here to ask opinions about whether to add some or take some out. > > -------- > Jeff Dill > Model 2 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:10 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cheng shin tires Jeff, I tend to agree with Pat on this one. I run 10 lbs in mine (also with the bush gear) and have no problem bouncing unless I screw up the touch down which I do on occasion (OK...maybe more than occasion) Its all part of flying !...no big deal. Dick Maddux Fox 4,912UL ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:41 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cheng shin tires Managed to spin (cut) the valve stem of the inner tube off when running wit h 4-5 lbs.=C2- Tubelss tires will=C2-possibly break the seal at the bea d because of the drag of spinning up the larger tires. IMHO John Kerr ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:42:48 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cheng shin tires Jeff, =C2-I tend to agree with Pat on this one. =C2-I run 10 lbs in mine (also with the bush gear) and have no problem bo uncing unless I screw up the touch down which I do on occasion (OK...maybe more than occasion) =C2-Its all part of flying !...no big deal. =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Dick Maddux =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- ======================== == ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:07 AM PST US From: "Joe & Jan Connell" Subject: Kitfox-List: Subject: RotaxEngines-List: ground wire Hi, My 582 brown wire is grounded to the engine. The ground wire from the Key West regulator is grounded to the frame. The engine is grounded to the frame with a braided strap =93 it needs to be heavy to handle the load when the starter is engaged. A lot of guys bring everything to a common ground on the aircraft. I did this in my RV-9A. See attached pictures for RV common ground and 582 ground strap. All the best... Joe Time: 11:24:01 PM PST US From: TURBO T Subject: RotaxEngines-List: ground wire Where should the brown ground wire on a 532 be attached to ? To airframe & engine block ? Am in process of installing a Key West regulator that has a 12Volt DC plug that is labeled to ground. It should probably go to frame & block also, But would it be a good idea to connect it to the brown engine wire also ? Thanks ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:37 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cheng shin tires When landing at SCX in Tennessee, with 19-35 knot crosswinds, I hit the right-side wheel bad enough to gouge and bend the Douglas wheel, but the *tubeless* Chengs stayed on and didn't lose any air...16 lbs pressure. Flew it home the next day, without even checking for damage. I didn't even notice the gouging and bending until a week later when I took the wheel pant off. Hammered the bend straight, filed some of the gouging out, and continue to fly it to this day...and beyond. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with 1465 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:25 AM, kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > Managed to spin (cut) the valve stem of the inner tube off when > running with 4-5 lbs. Tubelss tires will possibly break the seal > at the bead because of the drag of spinning up the larger tires. > > > IMHO > > > John Kerr > > > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:42:48 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cheng shin tires > > > Jeff, > I tend to agree with Pat on this one. > I run 10 lbs in mine (also with the bush gear) and have no problem > bouncing unless I screw up the touch down which I do on occasion > (OK...maybe more than occasion) > Its all part of flying !...no big deal. > Dick Maddux > Fox 4,912UL > _- > ======================== > 3D=======================3 > ======================== > 3D=======================3 > _- > ======================== > 3D=======================3 > = --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution_- > ======================== > 3D=======================3 > D============ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cheng shin tires From: Pete Christensen Are you sure you're not from Texas Lynn? ;-) Gol Dammi! Even I wouldn't be flying in those conditions! I'd be landing across the runway. How you bean Lynn. Missed you at Osh last year. Pete Christensen Leander, TX Kitfox III N73BH On Jun 24, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > When landing at SCX in Tennessee, with 19-35 knot crosswinds, I hit the right-side wheel bad enough to gouge and bend the Douglas wheel, but the *tubeless* Chengs stayed on and didn't lose any air...16 lbs pressure. Flew it home the next day, without even checking for damage. I didn't even notice the gouging and bending until a week later when I took the wheel pant off. Hammered the bend straight, filed some of the gouging out, and continue to fly it to this day...and beyond. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with 1465 hrs... (since 3-27-2006) > > > > > > > On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:25 AM, kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > >> Managed to spin (cut) the valve stem of the inner tube off when running with 4-5 lbs. Tubelss tires will possibly break the seal at the bead because of the drag of spinning up the larger tires. >> >> >> IMHO >> >> >> John Kerr >> >> >> >> >> From: Catz631@aol.com >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:42:48 AM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cheng shin tires >> >> >> Jeff, >> I tend to agree with Pat on this one. >> I run 10 lbs in mine (also with the bush gear) and have no problem bouncing unless I screw up the touch down which I do on occasion (OK...maybe more than occasion) >> Its all part of flying !...no big deal. >> Dick Maddux >> Fox 4,912UL > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:44 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cheng shin tires From: "fox5flyer" Jeffrey Dill wrote: > Funny to find this thread. I just flew around the patch for the first time with my Kings, that I bought a few years back. Came to the forum to ask WASSUP with the bouncing? Seems my gear is now all spring and no shock absorber. I put 8 PSI in them and came here to ask opinions about whether to add some or take some out. Nice airplane, Jeff. Generally the amount of air in the tires has nothing to do with bouncing. Usually the problem will go away when you slow down your landing speed a bit so that it stalls about the time you touch down. Good luck. 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