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1. 12:09 AM - Re: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps (Sacha)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky)
3. 07:57 AM - Re: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps (Steven Didier)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps (Sacha)
5. 05:41 PM - Re: 912 regulator fuse size (James Shumaker)
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| Subject: | Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps |
Hi Steve,
Are these speeds mph?
sacha
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Didier
Sent: Wednesday, 03 July, 2013 08:26
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
Lloyd ,
I'm using 65-70 downwind, 62 base, 60 final and 52 over the fence with
touchdown at about 43. I do have vg's (STOL Speed) and my plane with
full flaps refuses to stall it mushes at 38 indicated with 500fpm
Check the KitFox catalog you'll find there is a retrofit mod that is
supposed to reduce the stick forces when using full laps. I've gotten
used to my 5 and just have to remember to pull the stick all the way to
my gut to three point it.;-)
Steve
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 2, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky"
<7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the reply, not sure I am familiar with the interconnect mod?
To date I have only landed with the first notch of flap and would like
to start working with the second or full, my hesitation is that I feel I
may run out of elevator. What are you using for an approach speed for
each position?
Lloyd
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Didier
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
I have a 5 and vary between full and one notch. My experience with the
stock elevator and not having the interconnect mod, is that the stick
forces are fairly high and I have to use a lot of effort to get the
tailwheel down first or in a three point.
hope this helps
Steve D
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky"
<7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote:
Hello fellow Kitfoxers!
Looking to see if there is anyone out there that has any experience
landing a Model 5 with the flaperons in the second (full) flap notch
setting.
Lloyd C KF 5 Outback
912ul IVO IFA Northern Mi
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| Subject: | Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps |
Steve,
Are these numbers with one notch of flap or two? Or do you use the same
numbers for either? Your numbers look very similar to mine with one
notch, I am working on getting my final down to 55. You mention about
the stick pressure, I think the mod you are referring to might be the
adjustable spring tension mod for the stick that I have heard of, I also
have a lot of stick pressure on final. Is your 5 equipped with the
jackscrew for adjusting the angle of the horizontal stabilizer?
Lloyd
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Didier
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
Lloyd ,
I'm using 65-70 downwind, 62 base, 60 final and 52 over the fence with
touchdown at about 43. I do have vg's (STOL Speed) and my plane with
full flaps refuses to stall it mushes at 38 indicated with 500fpm
Check the KitFox catalog you'll find there is a retrofit mod that is
supposed to reduce the stick forces when using full laps. I've gotten
used to my 5 and just have to remember to pull the stick all the way to
my gut to three point it.;-)
Steve
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 2, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky"
<7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the reply, not sure I am familiar with the interconnect mod?
To date I have only landed with the first notch of flap and would like
to start working with the second or full, my hesitation is that I feel I
may run out of elevator. What are you using for an approach speed for
each position?
Lloyd
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Didier
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
I have a 5 and vary between full and one notch. My experience with the
stock elevator and not having the interconnect mod, is that the stick
forces are fairly high and I have to use a lot of effort to get the
tailwheel down first or in a three point.
hope this helps
Steve D
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky"
<7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote:
Hello fellow Kitfoxers!
Looking to see if there is anyone out there that has any experience
landing a Model 5 with the flaperons in the second (full) flap notch
setting.
Lloyd C KF 5 Outback
912ul IVO IFA Northern Mi
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps |
yes mph
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:02 AM, "Sacha" <uuccio@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> Are these speeds mph?
> sacha
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Didier
> Sent: Wednesday, 03 July, 2013 08:26
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
>
> Lloyd ,
> I'm using 65-70 downwind, 62 base, 60 final and 52 over the fence with tou
chdown at about 43. I do have vg's (STOL Speed) and my plane with full flaps
refuses to stall it mushes at 38 indicated with 500fpm
> Check the KitFox catalog you'll find there is a retrofit mod that is suppo
sed to reduce the stick forces when using full laps. I've gotten used to my 5
and just have to remember to pull the stick all the way to my gut to three p
oint it.;-)
> Steve
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 2, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.
net> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> Thanks for the reply, not sure I am familiar with the interconnect mod? To
date I have only landed with the first notch of flap and would like to star
t working with the second or full, my hesitation is that I feel I may run ou
t of elevator. What are you using for an approach speed for each position?
>
> Lloyd
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Didier
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:56 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
>
> I have a 5 and vary between full and one notch. My experience with the sto
ck elevator and not having the interconnect mod, is that the stick forces a
re fairly high and I have to use a lot of effort to get the tailwheel down f
irst or in a three point.
> hope this helps
> Steve D
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi
.net> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Kitfoxers!
> Looking to see if there is anyone out there that has any experience landin
g a Model 5 with the flaperons in the second (full) flap notch setting.
> Lloyd C KF 5 Outback
> 912ul IVO IFA Northern Mi
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps |
Thanks - i have a IV and my speeds up to now have been about 10mph lower, ma
ybe because my stall speed is also lower (currently 30mph indicated). I have
just bought the same vg's as you and I'm keen to find out what effect they h
ave on stall characteristics.
>
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 16:49, Steven Didier <steve.didier@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes mph
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:02 AM, "Sacha" <uuccio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> Are these speeds mph?
>>> sacha
>>>
>>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-s
erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Didier
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 03 July, 2013 08:26
>>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
>>>
>>> Lloyd ,
>>> I'm using 65-70 downwind, 62 base, 60 final and 52 over the fence with t
ouchdown at about 43. I do have vg's (STOL Speed) and my plane with full fla
ps refuses to stall it mushes at 38 indicated with 500fpm
>>> Check the KitFox catalog you'll find there is a retrofit mod that is sup
posed to reduce the stick forces when using full laps. I've gotten used to m
y 5 and just have to remember to pull the stick all the way to my gut to thr
ee point it.;-)
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Charterm
i.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve,
>>> Thanks for the reply, not sure I am familiar with the interconnect mod? T
o date I have only landed with the first notch of flap and would like to sta
rt working with the second or full, my hesitation is that I feel I may run o
ut of elevator. What are you using for an approach speed for each position?
>>>
>>> Lloyd
>>>
>>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-s
erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Didier
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:56 PM
>>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 Landing with Flaps
>>>
>>> I have a 5 and vary between full and one notch. My experience with the s
tock elevator and not having the interconnect mod, is that the stick forces
are fairly high and I have to use a lot of effort to get the tailwheel down
first or in a three point.
>>> hope this helps
>>> Steve D
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Charter
mi.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello fellow Kitfoxers!
>>> Looking to see if there is anyone out there that has any experience land
ing a Model 5 with the flaperons in the second (full) flap notch setting.
>>> Lloyd C KF 5 Outback
>>> 912ul IVO IFA Northern Mi
>>> <image001.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: 912 regulator fuse size |
Good point Clint.- That is exactly right,-the fuse is to prevent the wi
re from overheating from the fuse to the load.- The Regulator and alterna
tor are also in the loop and the fuse protects them indirectly.- The if t
he fuse is sized too small then generating capacity is also limited.- So
I'm just pointing out the fuse is plenty large to get all the capacity out
of the power source.- =0A-=0AJim=0A =0A=0A_____________________________
___=0A From: Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>=0ATo: "kitfox-list@m
atronics.com" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:
20 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 regulator fuse size=0A =0A=0A=0AThe
fuse is to protect the wire, not the generator.=0A=0AClint=0A=0ASent from m
y iPad=0A=0AOn Jul 1, 2013, at 6:34 PM, "James Shumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcgl
obal.net> wrote:=0A=0A=0AThe generator built into the 912 is only rated 18
amps.- 30 amps is plenty of cushion.- It is oversized to allow transien
t loads that would cause nuisance tripping.- =0A>-=0A>Jim Shumaker=0A>
=0A> =0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Marwynne Kuhn <marw
ynne@windstream.net>=0A>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Monday, Jul
y 1, 2013 4:57 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 regulator fuse size=0A>
tream.net>=0A>=0A>The fuse is a protective device for your plane.- I don
't know how much electrical demand that you have for your plane.- It woul
d be better to have the 30 amp fuse vs over sizing the protective device wi
tha 40 amp.- You could put a amp meter in series with the fuse temporarl
y and turn everything on.- It will give you a insight as to what kind of
electrical load you have.- The biggest consumere of power on your plane
would be landing lights (just a guess) .- =0A>=0A>My best guess (without
seeing all the loads) is it will work .=0A>=0A>Marwynne=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>----
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used to power the 912UL engine regulator B+ terminal. The Skystar schematic
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