---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/05/13: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:40 AM - Re: New Kitfox Vixen for me, network with others? (Catz631@aol.com) 2. 11:55 AM - Re: New Kitfox Vixen for me, network with others? (Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:19 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox Vixen for me, network with others? Skot, I too had a hard time getting my 4 on the ground until I figured out my approach speed was too high and the engine idle also too high. I now use an approach speed of around 55 mph and my idle is set around 2000 on short approach (equates to 1800 on the ground) Using a combination of slips and flaps as speed brakes if I am too high,also helps. I think if you play with the approach speed by slowing down earlier and/or maybe a lower pattern altitude you will get the hang of it. When I first bought my plane(years ago) The engine quit on final for the first 3 landings until I got the idle where I wanted it.My idle rpm on approach is still a little fast but I can live with it and haven't adjusted it yet. Dick Maddux Fox 4 912UL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:33 AM PST US From: "Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox Vixen for me, network with others? Skot, Congratulations on the purchase, The Vixen is a great plane, I fly an Outback, tail dragger version of the 5, would rather the tri-gear version. I have experienced the same issues with getting it down and the advice the guys on the list have been giving you has been exactly my experience, forward slips to give up the altitude and bleeding off the speed earlier along with watching your pattern altitude, I am only running the 80 hp 912ul, my approach is 60 over the fence, working on getting it to 55 mph. I land with 1 notch of flaps currently. I have also experienced the engine quitting on final and have my idle at 2000 on approach, working on bringing that to 1800, hopefully without quitting. Also some great advise on climb angle, especially on take-off, I read an article about a guy and his father at a small local grass strip show, he departed and climbed steep, the engine quit, he did not have enough altitude between the plane and the ground for it to rotate and get flying again, it did not end well. Fly Safe!!! Lloyd C KF 5 Outback 912ul IVO IFA Northern Mi IMG00144-20120518-1002 From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SWeidemann@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 8:34 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox Vixen for me, network with others? Greetings Kitfox Folks, I just flew home my new Kitfox Vixen Model 5 (with Rotax 912 ULS & Ivo prop) and am getting to know it. First impressions: The climb angle is very steep, cruise speed is pretty fast & glide ratio is very flat (I am having a hard time "getting it down") Anyone with pointers feel free to bring them up. Thanks much, Skot No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.