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Sun 07/28/13


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 03:03 PM - Re: Mod 3 engine mount (Patrick Reilly)
     2. 03:07 PM - 582 side mount brackets (Patrick Reilly)
     3. 03:16 PM - Fw: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly (Patrick Reilly)
     4. 04:07 PM - Re: 582 side mount brackets (Dave)
     5. 04:07 PM - Re: Fw: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly (Dave)
     6. 05:03 PM - Re: Fw: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly (Bill Malpass)
     7. 07:35 PM - Re: 582 side mount brackets (Patrick Reilly)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:03:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mod 3 engine mount
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    Norm, I have acquired an engine mount, but was approached by another IL Kitfox owner that is looking for an engine mount. Can I forward this email to him? Pat Reilly On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, normv1@juno.com <normv1@juno.com> wrote: > Pat, > I don't know what I want for it, all I know is that they were a little > over $200.00 in 1993. > I guess what it is worth to you is what it is worth. > Make me a reasonable offer plus shipping cost and it wiil be yours. > Glad I am able to help out. > Norm > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *New Diet Pill Sales Soar* > New &#39fast acting&#39 diet pill flying off shelves amidst consumer frenzy > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/51f15c7241ef25c715681st01vuc> > healthylifestylesdigest.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/51f15c7241ef25c715681st01vuc> > > * > > * > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 03:07:17 PM PST US
    Subject: 582 side mount brackets
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    I have finally acquired a 582 side mount engine mount for my Mod 3. I previously had a bed mount. Does anyone have the 4 side mounts and possibly the rubber bushings? -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 03:16:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    Kitfoxers, This is not Kitfox related,but I have been to Jack Bally's 3 times and walk away in awe each time. If you live any where near Dixon IL make sure you contact Jack for viewing of this amazing feat. He built this by himself except for help to lift and position parts that one man couldn't handle. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Doug Knorr <dtknorr@gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly rbainbridge@hostwerks.com>, Bob Bauer <slipstream@hughes.net>, Bob Slack < bobfaith@yahoo.com>, "Bonaguro, Jeff" <fbonaguro@comcast.net>, Bruce Jacobsen <OldDoc65@aol.com>, Bryan Hunt <ysifly2@comcast.net>, "Casserly, Tim" <casserlytimruth@gmail.com>, Chuck Hurley <grayeagle172@gmail.com>, Colin Bystrom <owl380w@sbcglobal.net>, "Corrigan, Doug" <Dpcpilot@gmail.com>, "Cultra, Mike" <skibum.cultra@gmail.com>, Dale Meyers < dalemeyers6239@yahoo.com>, "Doran, Roger" <Rog2642@yahoo.com>, EAA Chapter 22 <eaachapter22@gmail.com>, "Esparza, George" <UPF7@aol.com>, "Hasting, Grant" <granthasting@gmail.com>, "Hilbert, Elroy" <elroye61102@yahoo.com>, "Jansen, Chuck" <canoe23@tds.net>, Jeff Kennedy <jakenne@comcast.net>, Ken & Jan Lindenmier <lindenmier@aol.com>, "Kolls, Stacy" < warbirdfan72@yahoo.com>, "Lindgren, Allyn" <n258y@netzero.net>, "Martin, Roger & Amber" <martins223@comcast.net>, "Moorman, Newt" < nmoorman@mtt-inc.com>, "O'Quinn, Bob" <boboquinncfi@gmail.com>, "Petrie, Mike" <mvpetrie@t6b.com>, "Pierson, Steven" <stpent5@t6b.com>, "Randall, Howard" <howardarandall@hotmail.com>, "Reilly, Pat" <patreilly43@gmail.com>, Rick Ellis <Rick@positiverep.com>, "Stukenberg, Brian" < bstukenberg@byronbank.com>, Tony Harrolle <Tony@lpvend.com>, "Ufkin, Don" < d_ufkin@yahoo.com>, "Voss, Ron" <fly642r@comcast.net>, Wally Hansen < wallycopter1@yahoo.com>, Wally Hunt <T18WGH@aol.com>, "Wienand, Jim" < iflyvfr4fun@aol.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <Lindenmier@aol.com> Subject: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly ** We thought if you haven't seen this or you would like to pass it on to the club members we would forward it to you. It's worth a look! Jan & Ken Lindenmier ------------------------------ Subj: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly [image: http://airpigz.com/storage/2013/july/Bally-B-17-Engine-Next-To-] Jack Bally's incredible 1/3 scale B-17 next to a Cessna 140! (photo: facebook <https://www.facebook.com/BallyBomber>) Some new pictures surfaced last evening on the Bally Bomber facebook page<https://www.facebook.com/BallyBomber>showing Jack Bally's incredible 1/3 scale B-17 replica fully assembled and sitting next to a Cessna 140. Wow! The mind is really tied up in a knot trying to process what's seen there... it looks like a model but sooo big - but then it looks like a real B-17 but sooo much smaller! This project, coming to life in Dixon Illinois, has to rank as one of the most fascinating homebuilt aircraft projects of all time. It's the kind of idea that weird people like me dream up but rarely does anyone actually follow through. With an estimated 20,000 hours of labor required to build this cute little beast, it's understandable why. With a 34ft 7in wingspan, estimated 1,800 pound weight and four 60hp engines for a total of 240hp, the Bally Bomber is just pure awesome! Be sure to check out the hundreds of pix from the build process along with additional info atTheBallyBomber.com<http://theballybomber.com/> [image: http://airpigz.com/storage/2013/july/Bally-B-17-Trying-Cockpit-] The not-so-big cockpit really shows the overall scale! (photo:theballybomber.com ) The project was started back in 1999 and is just now nearing completion. The airframe is all scratch built (of course) and made out of aluminum. The main gear retracts just like the real B-17, and has proven to be the most complicated part of the project. The engines are the Hirth 3002 4-cylinder 2-stroke that usually have a reduction unit and make about 80hp. Jack chose this engine because of its size... it was small enough to fit inside a properly scaled nacelle. However, to make it fit properly, the reduction unit is removed which will bring the power down around 60hp each, with the engines spinning the 46.4" diameter props at about 3,300 rpm. [image: http://airpigz.com/storage/2013/july/Bally-B-17-Hirth-Engine-In] One of four 2-stroke Hirth 3002 (formerly F-30) engines (photo: theballybomber.com) Even though the airplane looks finished, I noticed in a Facebook comment last night that they say there's still some wiring, plumbing and detail work yet to complete. It would appear that the first flight is still off in the future a bit. Mostly that means that there's little hope of seeing the Bally Bomber at Oshkosh in a few weeks. There's little doubt in my mind that whenever this fabulous piece of work gets to Oshkosh, she'll be the Queen for the entire week! [image: http://airpigz.com/storage/2013/july/Bally-B-17-Engine-Nacelle-] The accuracy in the scale shaping is simply fantastic! (photo:theballybomber.com ) The accuracy of the shapes and scaling look excellent on this project. I remember back in the 70's there were several scaled-down military one-of-a-kind replicas, but most all failed to get the profiles, proportions, or prop scaling correct... the Bally Bomber appears to be getting it done right. Bravo! [image: http://airpigz.com/storage/2013/july/Bally-B-17-Engine-Nacelles] The amazing Bally Bomber is almost ready to fly! (photo: theballybomber.com ) Can you even imagine how cool it would be to see this 1/3 scale B-17 in the air! No doubt the videos of the first flight will be a huge internet sensation... stay tuned to the Bally Bomber facebook page<https://www.facebook.com/BallyBomber>for updates on the first flight... this might be as big a deal as the full-scale Mosquito last fall! -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 04:07:04 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: 582 side mount brackets
    I figured that you would be looking after seeing the Iv mount that you were buying. Good Choice -- you will get less vibration . Mc Bean should have these mounts, and rubbers. If not I might have ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Reilly To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:07 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 side mount brackets I have finally acquired a 582 side mount engine mount for my Mod 3. I previously had a bed mount. Does anyone have the 4 side mounts and possibly the rubber bushings? -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 04:07:04 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly
    B17 I just saw last month http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vysu_KwFrr8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Reilly To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:15 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly Kitfoxers, This is not Kitfox related,but I have been to Jack Bally's 3 times and walk away in awe each time. If you live any where near Dixon IL make sure you contact Jack for viewing of this amazing feat. He built this by himself except for help to lift and position parts that one man couldn't handle. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Doug Knorr <dtknorr@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:00 PM Subject: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly To: "Alborel, Sue" <salbore@foxvalley.net>, "Bainbridge, Red" <rbainbridge@hostwerks.com>, Bob Bauer <slipstream@hughes.net>, Bob Slack <bobfaith@yahoo.com>, "Bonaguro, Jeff" <fbonaguro@comcast.net>, Bruce Jacobsen <OldDoc65@aol.com>, Bryan Hunt <ysifly2@comcast.net>, "Casserly, Tim" <casserlytimruth@gmail.com>, Chuck Hurley <grayeagle172@gmail.com>, Colin Bystrom <owl380w@sbcglobal.net>, "Corrigan, Doug" <Dpcpilot@gmail.com>, "Cultra, Mike" <skibum.cultra@gmail.com>, Dale Meyers <dalemeyers6239@yahoo.com>, "Doran, Roger" <Rog2642@yahoo.com>, EAA Chapter 22 <eaachapter22@gmail.com>, "Esparza, George" <UPF7@aol.com>, "Hasting, Grant" <granthasting@gmail.com>, "Hilbert, Elroy" <elroye61102@yahoo.com>, "Jansen, Chuck" <canoe23@tds.net>, Jeff Kennedy <jakenne@comcast.net>, Ken & Jan Lindenmier <lindenmier@aol.com>, "Kolls, Stacy" <warbirdfan72@yahoo.com>, "Lindgren, Allyn" <n258y@netzero.net>, "Martin, Roger & Amber" <martins223@comcast.net>, "Moorman, Newt" <nmoorman@mtt-inc.com>, "O'Quinn, Bob" <boboquinncfi@gmail.com>, "Petrie, Mike" <mvpetrie@t6b.com>, "Pierson, Steven" <stpent5@t6b.com>, "Randall, Howard" <howardarandall@hotmail.com>, "Reilly, Pat" <patreilly43@gmail.com>, Rick Ellis <Rick@positiverep.com>, "Stukenberg, Brian" <bstukenberg@byronbank.com>, Tony Harrolle <Tony@lpvend.com>, "Ufkin, Don" <d_ufkin@yahoo.com>, "Voss, Ron" <fly642r@comcast.net>, Wally Hansen <wallycopter1@yahoo.com>, Wally Hunt <T18WGH@aol.com>, "Wienand, Jim" <iflyvfr4fun@aol.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <Lindenmier@aol.com> Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM Subject: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly To: dtknorr@gmail.com, edward.scherer@comcast.net, ysifly2@comcast.net We thought if you haven't seen this or you would like to pass it on to the club members we would forward it to you. It's worth a look! Jan & Ken Lindenmier ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Subj: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly Jack Bally's incredible 1/3 scale B-17 next to a Cessna 140! (photo: facebook) Some new pictures surfaced last evening on the Bally Bomber facebook page showing Jack Bally's incredible 1/3 scale B-17 replica fully assembled and sitting next to a Cessna 140. Wow! The mind is really tied up in a knot trying to process what's seen there... it looks like a model but sooo big - but then it looks like a real B-17 but sooo much smaller! This project, coming to life in Dixon Illinois, has to rank as one of the most fascinating homebuilt aircraft projects of all time. It's the kind of idea that weird people like me dream up but rarely does anyone actually follow through. With an estimated 20,000 hours of labor required to build this cute little beast, it's understandable why. With a 34ft 7in wingspan, estimated 1,800 pound weight and four 60hp engines for a total of 240hp, the Bally Bomber is just pure awesome! Be sure to check out the hundreds of pix from the build process along with additional info atTheBallyBomber.com The not-so-big cockpit really shows the overall scale! (photo: theballybomber.com) The project was started back in 1999 and is just now nearing completion. The airframe is all scratch built (of course) and made out of aluminum. The main gear retracts just like the real B-17, and has proven to be the most complicated part of the project. The engines are the Hirth 3002 4-cylinder 2-stroke that usually have a reduction unit and make about 80hp. Jack chose this engine because of its size... it was small enough to fit inside a properly scaled nacelle. However, to make it fit properly, the reduction unit is removed which will bring the power down around 60hp each, with the engines spinning the 46.4" diameter props at about 3,300 rpm. One of four 2-stroke Hirth 3002 (formerly F-30) engines (photo: theballybomber.com) Even though the airplane looks finished, I noticed in a Facebook comment last night that they say there's still some wiring, plumbing and detail work yet to complete. It would appear that the first flight is still off in the future a bit. Mostly that means that there's little hope of seeing the Bally Bomber at Oshkosh in a few weeks. There's little doubt in my mind that whenever this fabulous piece of work gets to Oshkosh, she'll be the Queen for the entire week! The accuracy in the scale shaping is simply fantastic! (photo: theballybomber.com) The accuracy of the shapes and scaling look excellent on this project. I remember back in the 70's there were several scaled-down military one-of-a-kind replicas, but most all failed to get the profiles, proportions, or prop scaling correct... the Bally Bomber appears to be getting it done right. Bravo! The amazing Bally Bomber is almost ready to fly! (photo: theballybomber.com) Can you even imagine how cool it would be to see this 1/3 scale B-17 in the air! No doubt the videos of the first flight will be a huge internet sensation... stay tuned to the Bally Bomber facebook page for updates on the first flight... this might be as big a deal as the full-scale Mosquito last fall! -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 05:03:37 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Malpass" <malpass-architect@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly
    guarantee you this will end up flying at the JOE NALL RC event in woodruff south carolina. The largest RC gathering in the world! ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Reilly To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:15 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly Kitfoxers, This is not Kitfox related,but I have been to Jack Bally's 3 times and walk away in awe each time. If you live any where near Dixon IL make sure you contact Jack for viewing of this amazing feat. He built this by himself except for help to lift and position parts that one man couldn't handle. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Doug Knorr <dtknorr@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:00 PM Subject: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly To: "Alborel, Sue" <salbore@foxvalley.net>, "Bainbridge, Red" <rbainbridge@hostwerks.com>, Bob Bauer <slipstream@hughes.net>, Bob Slack <bobfaith@yahoo.com>, "Bonaguro, Jeff" <fbonaguro@comcast.net>, Bruce Jacobsen <OldDoc65@aol.com>, Bryan Hunt <ysifly2@comcast.net>, "Casserly, Tim" <casserlytimruth@gmail.com>, Chuck Hurley <grayeagle172@gmail.com>, Colin Bystrom <owl380w@sbcglobal.net>, "Corrigan, Doug" <Dpcpilot@gmail.com>, "Cultra, Mike" <skibum.cultra@gmail.com>, Dale Meyers <dalemeyers6239@yahoo.com>, "Doran, Roger" <Rog2642@yahoo.com>, EAA Chapter 22 <eaachapter22@gmail.com>, "Esparza, George" <UPF7@aol.com>, "Hasting, Grant" <granthasting@gmail.com>, "Hilbert, Elroy" <elroye61102@yahoo.com>, "Jansen, Chuck" <canoe23@tds.net>, Jeff Kennedy <jakenne@comcast.net>, Ken & Jan Lindenmier <lindenmier@aol.com>, "Kolls, Stacy" <warbirdfan72@yahoo.com>, "Lindgren, Allyn" <n258y@netzero.net>, "Martin, Roger & Amber" <martins223@comcast.net>, "Moorman, Newt" <nmoorman@mtt-inc.com>, "O'Quinn, Bob" <boboquinncfi@gmail.com>, "Petrie, Mike" <mvpetrie@t6b.com>, "Pierson, Steven" <stpent5@t6b.com>, "Randall, Howard" <howardarandall@hotmail.com>, "Reilly, Pat" <patreilly43@gmail.com>, Rick Ellis <Rick@positiverep.com>, "Stukenberg, Brian" <bstukenberg@byronbank.com>, Tony Harrolle <Tony@lpvend.com>, "Ufkin, Don" <d_ufkin@yahoo.com>, "Voss, Ron" <fly642r@comcast.net>, Wally Hansen <wallycopter1@yahoo.com>, Wally Hunt <T18WGH@aol.com>, "Wienand, Jim" <iflyvfr4fun@aol.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <Lindenmier@aol.com> Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM Subject: Fwd: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly To: dtknorr@gmail.com, edward.scherer@comcast.net, ysifly2@comcast.net We thought if you haven't seen this or you would like to pass it on to the club members we would forward it to you. It's worth a look! Jan & Ken Lindenmier ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Subj: Manned 1/3 Scale B-17 Nearly Ready to Fly Jack Bally's incredible 1/3 scale B-17 next to a Cessna 140! (photo: facebook) Some new pictures surfaced last evening on the Bally Bomber facebook page showing Jack Bally's incredible 1/3 scale B-17 replica fully assembled and sitting next to a Cessna 140. Wow! The mind is really tied up in a knot trying to process what's seen there... it looks like a model but sooo big - but then it looks like a real B-17 but sooo much smaller! This project, coming to life in Dixon Illinois, has to rank as one of the most fascinating homebuilt aircraft projects of all time. It's the kind of idea that weird people like me dream up but rarely does anyone actually follow through. With an estimated 20,000 hours of labor required to build this cute little beast, it's understandable why. With a 34ft 7in wingspan, estimated 1,800 pound weight and four 60hp engines for a total of 240hp, the Bally Bomber is just pure awesome! Be sure to check out the hundreds of pix from the build process along with additional info atTheBallyBomber.com The not-so-big cockpit really shows the overall scale! (photo: theballybomber.com) The project was started back in 1999 and is just now nearing completion. The airframe is all scratch built (of course) and made out of aluminum. The main gear retracts just like the real B-17, and has proven to be the most complicated part of the project. The engines are the Hirth 3002 4-cylinder 2-stroke that usually have a reduction unit and make about 80hp. Jack chose this engine because of its size... it was small enough to fit inside a properly scaled nacelle. However, to make it fit properly, the reduction unit is removed which will bring the power down around 60hp each, with the engines spinning the 46.4" diameter props at about 3,300 rpm. One of four 2-stroke Hirth 3002 (formerly F-30) engines (photo: theballybomber.com) Even though the airplane looks finished, I noticed in a Facebook comment last night that they say there's still some wiring, plumbing and detail work yet to complete. It would appear that the first flight is still off in the future a bit. Mostly that means that there's little hope of seeing the Bally Bomber at Oshkosh in a few weeks. There's little doubt in my mind that whenever this fabulous piece of work gets to Oshkosh, she'll be the Queen for the entire week! The accuracy in the scale shaping is simply fantastic! (photo: theballybomber.com) The accuracy of the shapes and scaling look excellent on this project. I remember back in the 70's there were several scaled-down military one-of-a-kind replicas, but most all failed to get the profiles, proportions, or prop scaling correct... the Bally Bomber appears to be getting it done right. Bravo! The amazing Bally Bomber is almost ready to fly! (photo: theballybomber.com) Can you even imagine how cool it would be to see this 1/3 scale B-17 in the air! No doubt the videos of the first flight will be a huge internet sensation... stay tuned to the Bally Bomber facebook page for updates on the first flight... this might be as big a deal as the full-scale Mosquito last fall! -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL


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    Time: 07:35:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 side mount brackets
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    Thanks Dave. I'll try McBean. Pat On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote: > ** > I figured that you would be looking after seeing the Iv mount that you > were buying. > > Good Choice -- you will get less vibration . > > Mc Bean should have these mounts, and rubbers. > > If not I might have > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com> > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:07 PM > *Subject:* Kitfox-List: 582 side mount brackets > > I have finally acquired a 582 side mount engine mount for my Mod 3. I > previously had a bed mount. Does anyone have the 4 side mounts and > possibly the rubber bushings? > > -- > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford,IL > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL




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