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1. 03:06 AM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Michel)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Malcolm Brubaker)
3. 06:26 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (SkySteve)
4. 07:01 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (floran higgins)
5. 07:33 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Patrick Reilly)
6. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Dave)
7. 08:10 AM - 95DD (Lowell Fitt)
8. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Dave)
9. 09:15 AM - Re: 95DD (SkySteve)
10. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Patrick Reilly)
11. 09:43 AM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Joe & Jan Connell)
12. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Stan Specht)
13. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Dan Hatch)
14. 11:12 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Michael Gibbs)
15. 11:25 AM - Re: 95DD (Weiss Richard)
16. 11:28 AM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Dave)
17. 03:10 PM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Guy Buchanan)
18. 03:24 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (SkySteve)
19. 04:31 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Guy Buchanan)
20. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (Patrick Reilly)
21. 06:33 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 (SkySteve)
22. 06:34 PM - Re: 95DD (Patrick Reilly)
23. 07:25 PM - Re: 95DD (Lowell Fitt)
24. 07:38 PM - Discussion (Lowell Fitt)
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| Subject: | Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? |
I am still monitoring this list from here, in Norway. But my Kitfox 3 is still
flying without problems so, I am not a frequent poster! ;-)
I love shooting reindeers from my Kitfox but I had to give up. I once shot Rudolf
and Santa was very crossed with me. I got no Christmas present that year! :-(
... ;-) Cheers,
Michel
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Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? |
thats too funny,-- is too funny-!-- i sold my kit fox to a sled m
echanic in north east canada he is loving it-.-- =0A=0A=0AMalcolm & J
eanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilot
repair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight
& Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A___________________
_____________=0A From: Michel <michel@online.no>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronic
s.com =0ASent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:06 AM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Re:
What Happen to this Kifox List?=0A =0A=0A--> Kitfox-List message posted b
y: "Michel" <michel@online.no>=0A=0AI am still monitoring this list from he
re, in Norway. But my Kitfox 3 is still flying without problems so, I am no
t a frequent poster! ;-)=0A=0AI love shooting reindeers from my Kitfox but
I had to give up. I once shot Rudolf and Santa was very crossed with me. I
got no Christmas present that year! :-(=0A=0A... ;-) Cheers,=0AMichel=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
I'm still here, and still flying Dan Denney's original model I, 85DD. I was never
very active here as I was a late commer. I much prefer the TKF site format.
As for username and logging in, you still have to have both on this site too
if you want to view it from the internet. Why not get over the "tricks is for
kids" attitude and join both. Be part of the Kitfox Family. It's a pretty good
family to be part of.
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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
In Montana, you have to get a permit from the Mt Dept of Livestock and
get written permission from the landower to shoot coyotes from the air.
The Dept of Livestock has a helicopter and with the cooperation of the
U.S. Fish and Wildlife govt trappers, shoot coyotes from the helicopter
using a shotgun.
I have been told that on one of their best days they killed over 400
coyotes.
Floran Higgins
Helena, Mt
model 4 speedster
Rotex 912 ULS
----- Original Message -----
From: Dee Young
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13
I guess it depends on how you look at it. If your a live stock owner
and have suffered significant financial losses it aim' t quite so dumb.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Michael Schreibman"
<captseasick@gmail.com> wrote:
Cool? not if you are a coyote!!! Sounds both cruel and dumb to
me?
Mike,
shopping for a KFIV.
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Kitfox-List Digest Server
<kitfox-list@matronics.com> wrote:
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1. 05:54 PM - What Happen to this Kifox List? (Kitfox Guy)
2. 06:23 PM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Malcolm
Brubaker)
3. 06:48 PM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Dee
Young)
4. 06:58 PM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Patrick
Reilly)
5. 07:55 PM - Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? (Dave)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 05:54:51 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
From: "Kitfox Guy" <mmeyers7167@sbcglobal.net>
Aside from a couple of posts about a model 3 and GSC Prop there
has been
No messages about Kitfoxs in several months. Where has everyone
gone? Seems like
the list died
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Michael Meyers
KF IV - Cont. 0-200
N598BM
L67
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Time: 06:23:01 PM PST US
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
im still here- in michigan-! and had to wonder if it is still
legal to
shoot a gun from a plane out west ?=0A-i t would be cool to
mount a pair
of shotguns to a "lite"- and shoot coyotes ,=0A=0AMalcolm &
Jeanne Brubak
er =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair
=0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com/
=0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor
Ultralight & Light Spor
t=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A_______________________________
_=0A From: Kitfox Guy <mmeyers7167@sbcglobal.net>=0ATo:
kitfox-list@matroni
cs.com =0ASent: Friday, December 6, 2013 8:53 PM=0ASubject:
Kitfox-List: Wh
"Kitfox Guy" <mmeyers7167@sbcglobal.net>=0A=0AAside from a
couple of posts
about a model 3 and GSC Prop there has been =0ANo messages about
Kitfoxs in
several months. Where has everyone gone?- Seems like the list
died=0A=0A
--------=0AMichael Meyers=0AKF IV - Cont.
0-200=0AN598BM=0AL67=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0ARead this topic online
here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L
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________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 06:48:26 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
From: Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com>
You can shoot them right out the door if you want .
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 6, 2013, at 7:27 PM, "Malcolm Brubaker"
<brubakermal@yahoo.com> wro
te:
>
> im still here in michigan ! and had to wonder if it is still
legal to sho
ot a gun from a plane out west ?
> i t would be cool to mount a pair of shotguns to a "lite" and
shoot coyo
tes ,
>
> Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
> Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
> http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/
> LSRM-A, PPC, WS
> Great Sails - Sailmaker
> for Ultralight & Light Sport
> (989)513-3022
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Kitfox Guy <mmeyers7167@sbcglobal.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 8:53 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
>
>
>
> Aside from a couple of posts about a model 3 and GSC Prop there
has been
> No messages about Kitfoxs in several months. Where has everyone
gone? See
ms like the list died
>
> --------
> Michael Meyers
> KF IV - Cont. 0-200
> N598BM
> L67
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415; http:
-Mat Use tfox-List"
target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?
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Time: 06:58:19 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
Mike, Yes, it is too bad. It's been this way for quite awhile.
Maybe Team
Kitfox is active, but I don't like the format of that site,.as I
have
previously said. Pass words user names, etc. cumbersome and
convoluted
compared to this site. Progress you know, designed by progressives
I
don't think I could have rebuilt my plane without this site. I
still
solicit on this site when I need parts. There are still a few of
us that
monitor the site.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Malcolm Brubaker
<brubakermal@yahoo.com>wrote:
> im still here in michigan ! and had to wonder if it is still
legal to
> shoot a gun from a plane out west ?
> i t would be cool to mount a pair of shotguns to a "lite" and
shoot
> coyotes ,
>
> Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
> Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
> http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/
> LSRM-A, PPC, WS
> Great Sails - Sailmaker
> for Ultralight & Light Sport
> (989)513-3022
>
>
> *From:* Kitfox Guy <mmeyers7167@sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 6, 2013 8:53 PM
> *Subject:* Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
>
> >
>
> Aside from a couple of posts about a model 3 and GSC Prop there
has been
> No messages about Kitfoxs in several months. Where has everyone
gone?
> Seems like the list died
>
> --------
> Michael Meyers
> KF IV - Cont. 0-200
> N598BM
> L67
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415; http:
> -Mat Use tfox-List"
>
target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List>
>
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Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 07:55:32 PM PST US
From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
I think the forum format is much better...........
The daily digest here is nice and serves a great purpose.
To be honest the attitudes of a few made everyone leave.
still a great bunch of folks here -gotta switch sooner or
later..........
bt matronics runs a forum style as well as this list .........
any forum you can subscribe and get alerts on the topics.
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Reilly
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
Mike, Yes, it is too bad. It's been this way for quite awhile.
Maybe
Team Kitfox is active, but I don't like the format of that
site,.as I
have previously said. Pass words user names, etc. cumbersome and
convoluted compared to this site. Progress you know, designed by
progressives I don't think I could have rebuilt my plane without
this
site. I still solicit on this site when I need parts. There are
still a
few of us that monitor the site.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Malcolm Brubaker
<brubakermal@yahoo.com> wrote:
im still here in michigan ! and had to wonder if it is still
legal
to shoot a gun from a plane out west ?
i t would be cool to mount a pair of shotguns to a "lite"
and
shoot coyotes ,
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
From: Kitfox Guy <mmeyers7167@sbcglobal.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
<mmeyers7167@sbcglobal.net>
Aside from a couple of posts about a model 3 and GSC Prop
there has
been
No messages about Kitfoxs in several months. Where has
everyone
gone? Seems like the list died
--------
Michael Meyers
KF IV - Cont. 0-200
N598BM
L67
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
Steve, Your wrong about requiring signing in to this sight. Every post
is automatically sent to my email. with the posters actual name. When
someone new comes on the sight without location we usually request a
location. I suppose TKF is alright but compared to this sight it is
cumbersome to say the least.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:26 AM, SkySteve <Wilson@reinfo.org> wrote:
>
> I'm still here, and still flying Dan Denney's original model I, 85DD. I
> was never very active here as I was a late commer. I much prefer the TKF
> site format. As for username and logging in, you still have to have both on
> this site too if you want to view it from the internet. Why not get over
> the "tricks is for kids" attitude and join both. Be part of the Kitfox
> Family. It's a pretty good family to be part of.
>
> --------
> Steve Wilson
> Huntsville, UT
> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
> Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415108#415108
>
>
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Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
Pat, Get over the silliness , I gotta agree with Steve on this one.
The mail list thing is Ok and I get the emails as well.
I put my name to my posts and I agree that some have chosen behind a
"alias name " but really who cares. EH
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Reilly
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13
Steve, Your wrong about requiring signing in to this sight. Every post
is automatically sent to my email. with the posters actual name. When
someone new comes on the sight without location we usually request a
location. I suppose TKF is alright but compared to this sight it is
cumbersome to say the least.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:26 AM, SkySteve <Wilson@reinfo.org> wrote:
I'm still here, and still flying Dan Denney's original model I,
85DD. I was never very active here as I was a late commer. I much prefer
the TKF site format. As for username and logging in, you still have to
have both on this site too if you want to view it from the internet. Why
not get over the "tricks is for kids" attitude and join both. Be part of
the Kitfox Family. It's a pretty good family to be part of.
--------
Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
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Steve,
I was looking through my old Kitfox Times collections - Issue 2, 1994 and
found this page. I thought you might want a copy if you don't already have
one.
No real problems with TK, but for some reason I have not sensed the warmth,
I felt with fellow Kitfoxers that I felt with the old fashioned lists. The
original Kitfox list started in 1994 or so by a guy out of the University of
Colorado - found the announcement as I was reading through the old Kitfox
times. I joined right away and became close friends with a lot of the guys
and met many at fly-ins and made personal visits with others across the
country as I was able. Maybe it is just me, but for the most part, I knew
who they were, what they did and where they lived and we communicated with
first names rather than code names. If I saw a name tag or data plate that
said John Jones, I knew who I was talking to. It just seemed more
friendly to me.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
Pat. I agree with Steve Stop being silly about this
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-12-08, at 10:32, Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve, Your wrong about requiring signing in to this sight. Every post is a
utomatically sent to my email. with the posters actual name. When someone n
ew comes on the sight without location we usually request a location. I supp
ose TKF is alright but compared to this sight it is cumbersome to say the le
ast.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:26 AM, SkySteve <Wilson@reinfo.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'm still here, and still flying Dan Denney's original model I, 85DD. I w
as never very active here as I was a late commer. I much prefer the TKF site
format. As for username and logging in, you still have to have both on this
site too if you want to view it from the internet. Why not get over the "tr
icks is for kids" attitude and join both. Be part of the Kitfox Family. It's
a pretty good family to be part of.
>>
>> --------
>> Steve Wilson
>> Huntsville, UT
>> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
>> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
>> Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415108#415108
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> et="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
>> "_blank">www.mrrace.com
>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> le, List Admin.
>> ==========
>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>> ==========
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> ==========
>
>
>
> --
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford,IL
>
>
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Lowell,
Wow! And thanks! I haven't see that one. I will print that and add it to my 85DD
history collection.
I agree with you about names. Like you said, it's hard to go to a fly-in and hear
names but not realize you were just talking to "wing strut" or whomever. I
would much prefer the use of real names. It happened to me just last week from
a backcountry pilot site I'm on. I saw a backcountry plane at my local airport
that I recognized from one guy's avatar so I walked up to him and said, "Are
you GrassstripPilot?" His answer was, "Who's asking?" I explained where I got
the name GrassstripPilot, then he relaxed and told me his actual name. He explained
that due to where he lands he doesn't want to use his actual name on
the forum. Maybe that is why people use fake names on forums. To be totally up
front, I use the name SkySteve, but I do sign everything with my name. It is
irritating and confusing but I guess it's just the way it is.
In general I've found most pilots are pretty good guys.
--------
Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415125#415125
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
Dave, Great to hear from you. It's not silliness. It's more like laziness.
Anytime I have to remember more or take additional time and effort to
accomplish the same thing I'm out.
Simplicity is the name of the game. I guess if I have to get involved
with TKF to accomplish something with my KF, I will. I already spend too
damn much time at this computer. I'm a full 2 years behind on my Whittman
Tailwind project and the motorcycles I'm rebuilding.
Pat Reilly
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
> Pat. I agree with Steve Stop being silly about this
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-12-08, at 10:32, Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Steve, Your wrong about requiring signing in to this sight. Every post
> is automatically sent to my email. with the posters actual name. When
> someone new comes on the sight without location we usually request a
> location. I suppose TKF is alright but compared to this sight it is
> cumbersome to say the least.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:26 AM, SkySteve <Wilson@reinfo.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm still here, and still flying Dan Denney's original model I, 85DD. I
>> was never very active here as I was a late commer. I much prefer the TKF
>> site format. As for username and logging in, you still have to have both on
>> this site too if you want to view it from the internet. Why not get over
>> the "tricks is for kids" attitude and join both. Be part of the Kitfox
>> Family. It's a pretty good family to be part of.
>>
>> --------
>> Steve Wilson
>> Huntsville, UT
>> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
>> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
>> Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415108#415108
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> et="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
>> "_blank">www.mrrace.com
>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> le, List Admin.
>> ==========
>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>> ==========
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> ==========
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford,IL
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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| Subject: | Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? |
Years ago there was a ton of activity on Kitfox list. It was a time of
models II, II, & IVs along with Rotax 582 engines. I now spend time in
the Kitfox archives as needed. I have a model II with a 582 and a Warp
drive 3-blade prop. The kit, #399, is 24 years old. Either all the
questions have been answered or the delivery of information has changed.
Perhaps it=99s a little of both.
I=99ve looked at the other Kitfox website and find it somewhat
harder for searching and chasing conversation threads. Van=99s RV
has gone more to Facebook and I miss the quarterly RVator documents.
An early Merry Christmas everyone...
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
As a point of clarification, Steve, I AM on both lists, and have been for q
uite some time (as part of the "Kitfox family"). However, on the other list
not everyone identifies themselves, as is evidenced by another person in t
he Denver area who does not share anything about himself, even in his profi
le. so I have no idea who he is. So, bottom line, I miss the activity on th
is list and the camaraderie that helped me build my aircraft starting twent
y years ago.
Just "being a kid,"
Stan Specht & "Columbine"
Lakewood, Colorado (burrrrrrrrr over the last few days!)
-----Original Message-----
From: SkySteve <Wilson@REinfo.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 7:26 am
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13
I'm still here, and still flying Dan Denney's original model I, 85DD. I was
never very active here as I was a late commer. I much prefer the TKF site
format. As for username and logging in, you still have to have both on this
site
too if you want to view it from the internet. Why not get over the "tricks
is
for kids" attitude and join both. Be part of the Kitfox Family. It's a pret
ty
good family to be part of.
--------
Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415108#415108
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
I also found it odd the use of a stage name and lack of using your real name
and contact
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Stan Specht <sourdostan@aol.com> wrote:
>
> As a point of clarification, Steve, I AM on both lists, and have been for q
uite some time (as part of the "Kitfox family"). However, on the other list n
ot everyone identifies themselves, as is evidenced by another person in the D
enver area who does not share anything about himself, even in his profile. s
o I have no idea who he is. So, bottom line, I miss the activity on this lis
t and the camaraderie that helped me build my aircraft starting twenty years
ago.
>
> Just "being a kid,"
>
> Stan Specht & "Columbine"
> Lakewood, Colorado (burrrrrrrrr over the last few days!)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SkySteve <Wilson@REinfo.org>
> To: kitfox-list <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 7:26 am
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13
>
>
> I'm still here, and still flying Dan Denney's original model I, 85DD. I wa
s
> never very active here as I was a late commer. I much prefer the TKF site
> format. As for username and logging in, you still have to have both on thi
s site
> too if you want to view it from the internet. Why not get over the "tricks
is
> for kids" attitude and join both. Be part of the Kitfox Family. It's a pre
tty
> good family to be part of.
>
> --------
> Steve Wilson
> Huntsville, UT
> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
> Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415108#415108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
> ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
> ank">www.mrrace.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
Dave sez:
> I put my name to my posts and I agree that some have chosen behind a "alia
s name " but really who cares.
It's obvious from the responses here that quite a few people do care. I, for
one, would never trust my life to advice I got from someone who's not even w
illing to give me his name.
I think some of the decline in activity on this list is reflective of the de
cline in activity in general aviation overall. Have we done a poor job of pa
ssing the torch of personal flying to the next generation?
Mike G.
Phoenix, AZ
Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6
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I have to agree with Lowell. I've been on the list since 94. I used to be more
active, but over the years I've gone from building to flying and don't have
much to offer on the construction side. My Model V/912ULS just trucks along with
no real issues.
TK is okay, but like most of you, I prefer to know who I'm talking to. I do read
all the posts, but by the time I get to the list, people much smarter than
I have already provided the answers.
I do pay close attention to the more global discussions as I'm on the Board at
EAA as well as the Chairman of the Homebuilt Aircraft Council. I learn a lot
from this list and the others I'm on. So keep writing and know you're being heard
and more importantly, listened to.
Fly Safe!
Rick Weiss
Spruce Creek Fly-in, FL
Happily flying SkyStar's serial number 1of the Model V
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I was looking through my old Kitfox Times collections - Issue 2, 1994 and found
this page. I thought you might want a copy if you don't already have one.
>
> No real problems with TK, but for some reason I have not sensed the warmth, I
felt with fellow Kitfoxers that I felt with the old fashioned lists. The original
Kitfox list started in 1994 or so by a guy out of the University of Colorado
- found the announcement as I was reading through the old Kitfox times.
I joined right away and became close friends with a lot of the guys and met many
at fly-ins and made personal visits with others across the country as I was
able. Maybe it is just me, but for the most part, I knew who they were, what
they did and where they lived and we communicated with first names rather than
code names. If I saw a name tag or data plate that said John Jones, I knew
who I was talking to. It just seemed more friendly to me.
>
> Lowell
> <Scan0020.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? |
Joe- I agree with you on the archive aspect of Matronics list.
TKF pulls some stuff as they feel it is old info ........... I told them
the other day is silly as it could be useful information for someone
down the road.
Everyone has there opinions and alot left matronics as the tone oxf a
few of the moderation team here just started to get a bit cocky.
Some cocky over at TKF as well but they all hidden behind there
aliases.
You can just figure is all the western USA guys for the most part that
were here using their real name.
Maybe I should put up a forum for you on kitfoxflyer.com
I would never ask for money as I would have ads on it. No pop ups just
google ads like my youtube videos.
Cheers, Dave aka kitfoxflyer or Dave F
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe & Jan Connell
To: kitfox-list
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Happen to this Kifox List?
Years ago there was a ton of activity on Kitfox list. It was a time
of models II, II, & IVs along with Rotax 582 engines. I now spend time
in the Kitfox archives as needed. I have a model II with a 582 and a
Warp drive 3-blade prop. The kit, #399, is 24 years old. Either all
the questions have been answered or the delivery of information has
changed. Perhaps it=99s a little of both.
I=99ve looked at the other Kitfox website and find it somewhat
harder for searching and chasing conversation threads. Van=99s RV
has gone more to Facebook and I miss the quarterly RVator documents.
An early Merry Christmas everyone...
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: What Happen to this Kifox List? |
Yeah, the moderators here are real SoB's. They don't allow you to be
rude, or abusive, or /anything/. It's awful. Although I have a hard time
believing the moderators over on TKF hide behind aliases. I can't
believe Steve would allow that.
Guy Buchanan - List moderator
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
On 12/8/2013 11:27 AM, Dave wrote:
> Everyone has there opinions and alot left matronics as the tone oxf a
> few of the moderation team here just started to get a bit cocky.
> Some cocky over at TKF as well but they all hidden behind there aliases.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
It appears that many do follow this list, when it is active. And when people are
building they tend to post more than when they are flying. The TKF list seems
to be the same way in that builders post more, flyers post less. I've never
been a builder, but fly quite a bit. I wish flyers would post more as I love
to hear about their adventures, techniques, how their planes fly, etc but I find
very few posts on either site about actual flying, and I miss that. In fact,
I find I also post very little about flying because when I do, there are very
few responses and I end up feeling like I one of very few who fly, as well as
I sometimes feel I'm hogging all the "let me tell you about my adventure" space.
--------
Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415153#415153
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
I dunno what it is, but swappin' lies via the Internet just isn't nearly
as satisfying as swappin' 'em in the hangar. That's where real flyin'
stories get told.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
On 12/8/2013 3:24 PM, SkySteve wrote:
> In fact, I find I also post very little about flying because when I do, there
are very few responses and I end up feeling like I one of very few who fly, as
well as I sometimes feel I'm hogging all the "let me tell you about my adventure"
space.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
Steve, The reason builders post more is a site like this is a wealth of
info. When I was rebuilding my Mod 3. There were 5 or 6 absolute
Kitfox experts available to me here. I'm not much for the social aspect of
flying. My appreciation, respect, and admiration for those 5 or 6 guys
that mentored me through 2 years rebuilding are invaluable. And I acquired
many parts from the members of this website.
I have a question. This site allows me to have all posts to the site
automatically emailed to me. Can I do that with the TKF site? If so I might
use that site also.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I dunno what it is, but swappin' lies via the Internet just isn't nearly
> as satisfying as swappin' 'em in the hangar. That's where real flyin'
> stories get told.
>
> Guy Buchanan
> Ramona, CA
> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
> Now a glider pilot, too.
>
>
> On 12/8/2013 3:24 PM, SkySteve wrote:
>
>> In fact, I find I also post very little about flying because when I do,
>> there are very few responses and I end up feeling like I one of very few
>> who fly, as well as I sometimes feel I'm hogging all the "let me tell you
>> about my adventure" space.
>>
>>
>
>
--
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/06/13 |
Pat,
Yes, I do understand the uniqueness of the building quality of sites like these,
and agree that's why most posts are centered around building. I'm just not smart
enough, nor willing to put in the time to build. I just want to fly. I have
to admit I, too, have gleaned a lot of info from the builders' discussions
and have added many mods to my plane because of their discussions. All good stuff.
My point was that my personal main interest is the adventures and thrill
of flight I get from my Kitfox, and that I like to share those with others.
I don't think the TKF site is set up to email you. My understanding is you are
required to get on the site thru the internet. If it helps, once you log-on and
put in your password, there is a box to check which will automatically log you
in each time you go to the site, just like this site will do.
--------
Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415162#415162
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Dave, See it ain't just me!
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Weiss Richard <MDKitfox@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I have to agree with Lowell. I've been on the list since 94. I used to
> be more active, but over the years I've gone from building to flying and
> don't have much to offer on the construction side. My Model V/912ULS just
> trucks along with no real issues.
>
> TK is okay, but like most of you, I prefer to know who I'm talking to. I
> do read all the posts, but by the time I get to the list, people much
> smarter than I have already provided the answers.
>
> I do pay close attention to the more global discussions as I'm on the
> Board at EAA as well as the Chairman of the Homebuilt Aircraft Council. I
> learn a lot from this list and the others I'm on. So keep writing and know
> you're being heard and more importantly, listened to.
>
> Fly Safe!
>
> Rick Weiss
> Spruce Creek Fly-in, FL
> Happily flying SkyStar's serial number 1of the Model V
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I was looking through my old Kitfox Times collections - Issue 2, 1994
> and found this page. I thought you might want a copy if you don't already
> have one.
> >
> > No real problems with TK, but for some reason I have not sensed the
> warmth, I felt with fellow Kitfoxers that I felt with the old fashioned
> lists. The original Kitfox list started in 1994 or so by a guy out of the
> University of Colorado - found the announcement as I was reading through
> the old Kitfox times. I joined right away and became close friends with a
> lot of the guys and met many at fly-ins and made personal visits with
> others across the country as I was able. Maybe it is just me, but for the
> most part, I knew who they were, what they did and where they lived and we
> communicated with first names rather than code names. If I saw a name tag
> or data plate that said John Jones, I knew who I was talking to. It just
> seemed more friendly to me.
> >
> > Lowell
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Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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I think I am finally finished building, but that is where my heart is.
I had a video camera mount on my first IV and can't seem to live without
one. I am on my third iteration of a mount for my current project - it
had to be HD and able to zoom. The first two versions were miserable
failures. It also had to be on a controllable gimbal mount. I think I
am almost finished and am more optimistic this time. Then what, though.
I gotta say this though, I am glad to see some of the names who have
influenced me so much in the past. It feels really good that everyone
is still around.
Lowell
From: Patrick Reilly
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 95DD
Dave, See it ain't just me!
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Weiss Richard <MDKitfox@aol.com> wrote:
I have to agree with Lowell. I've been on the list since 94. I used
to be more active, but over the years I've gone from building to flying
and don't have much to offer on the construction side. My Model
V/912ULS just trucks along with no real issues.
TK is okay, but like most of you, I prefer to know who I'm talking to.
I do read all the posts, but by the time I get to the list, people much
smarter than I have already provided the answers.
I do pay close attention to the more global discussions as I'm on the
Board at EAA as well as the Chairman of the Homebuilt Aircraft Council.
I learn a lot from this list and the others I'm on. So keep writing and
know you're being heard and more importantly, listened to.
Fly Safe!
Rick Weiss
Spruce Creek Fly-in, FL
Happily flying SkyStar's serial number 1of the Model V
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> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I was looking through my old Kitfox Times collections - Issue 2,
1994 and found this page. I thought you might want a copy if you don't
already have one.
>
> No real problems with TK, but for some reason I have not sensed the
warmth, I felt with fellow Kitfoxers that I felt with the old fashioned
lists. The original Kitfox list started in 1994 or so by a guy out of
the University of Colorado - found the announcement as I was reading
through the old Kitfox times. I joined right away and became close
friends with a lot of the guys and met many at fly-ins and made personal
visits with others across the country as I was able. Maybe it is just
me, but for the most part, I knew who they were, what they did and where
they lived and we communicated with first names rather than code names.
If I saw a name tag or data plate that said John Jones, I knew who I
was talking to. It just seemed more friendly to me.
>
> Lowell
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With all the great posts over the past three or four days, I developed
the courage to bring up something that is troubling me flying wise.
I have lost significant hearing - to the point that air to air or air to
ground communication is impossible without some significant help. I use
hearing aids and have hard wired the audio from the radio to the
receiver/controller I wear around my neck. I talks to the hearing aids
through Blue Tooth. It helps a lot when it works. I thought I lost my
radio on the trip to Desert Fox Squadron last March and seriously wonder
now if it was the radio or the hard wiring to the thing around my neck.
Does anyone else have this problem and if so what have you done to
mitigate it?
Lowell
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