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1. 12:14 AM - Re: Heavy right wing (Sacha)
2. 01:41 AM - Re: Heavy right wing (Lowell Fitt)
3. 03:34 AM - Re: Re: Discussion (Michael Orth)
4. 06:22 AM - Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots (SkySteve)
5. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots (bjones@dmv.com)
6. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots (Lowell Fitt)
7. 08:47 AM - Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots (SkySteve)
8. 11:03 AM - Re: Heavy right wing (Guy Buchanan)
9. 02:34 PM - Re: Heavy right wing (Mike Logan)
10. 02:35 PM - Cannon Camera (Patrick Reilly)
11. 03:36 PM - Re: Heavy right wing (Sacha)
12. 03:51 PM - Re: Heavy right wing (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Heavy right wing |
Guy/Mike,
Thanks for that. I've recently had to re-rig the flapperon control
bellcrank (I came to the conclusion it was clocked incorrectly at build
time, see previous posts back in June) and maybe I also need to do some
adjusting of the rods. I'll start by re-checking the wing angles first.
Sacha
PS. Guy, just noticed you're in KRMN. I did my PPL in KSEE in 2011. Was
hoping to return there sometime next year to do some more flying, if I do
I'll try and look you up if that's ok.
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December, 2013 02:37
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Heavy right wing
On 12/9/2013 1:42 PM, Sacha wrote:
Is this enough of a difference in your opinion to cause so much difference?
I'm going to say definitely. Really, you have only a few choices, plus some
also-rans. Choices:
* Wing twist different - noted.
* Wing weight different. Check using scales under the mains. This
happens occasionally in flight when one tank drains while the other is full.
* Flaperon rigging off. If one flaperon is low this will drag that
wing back. You'll center the ball with the rudder which will cause that wing
to lift, resulting in a feeling of miss-rigging.
Also rans:
* Twisted fuselage causing one wing to lead.
* Really bad wing rigging causing one wing to lead. (Wings not
perpendicular to fuselage.)
* Accidentally put wing extension on only one side.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy right wing |
Sacha,
I think you might have hit on the problem. My left wing is slightly heavy.
I tried to correct it by flattening the right wing, but conventional wisdom
is to tighten the angle of attack on the heavy wing. I have yet to do that,
though.
Lowell
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From: "Sacha" <uuccio@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:42 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Heavy right wing
>
> Hi Kitfoxers
> I did a test flight yesterday (Kitfox IV rebuild) and the plane would not
> stay on the same course and required lots of left stick. If I let go of
> the stick and keep the ball centered, the plane banks to the right. Fuel
> contents in each wing were approximately equal.
> On the ground with the plane level I measured the angle of each wing and
> found that the right wing has a slightly lower angle of attack than the
> left wing - about 0.5 degrees.
> Is this enough of a difference in your opinion to cause so much
> difference? What else could be the cause? (When I have more time I am
> going to go through and check the dihedral and wing washout as well but
> I'm curious wether I am on the right track here).
> Sacha
>
>
>
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Howdy All,
Just passing this along in hopes that it may benefit someone.
I also had hearing loss similar to what many of you have described.
Then I had a tooth extracted due to a long-term (years) low-grade infection
in the root.
With the extraction, a prescription for an antibiotic was written. Standard
procedure.
Within days, my hearing returned.
Why? The long-term lingering infection at my tooth root had also spread to
my sinuses.
This infection was causing my hearing degradation.
I hope someone out there has an infected tooth causing a similar problem.
Very easy to fix.
Michael
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From: Tom Jones
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Discussion
Too many chainsaws and helicopters in my life have ruined my ears. I broke
down and got hearing aids this year. The guy said I have moderate hearing
loss in the frequency where children's voices are and sever loss in the
frequency where women's voices are.
There's been some pretty good advances in hearing aids the past few years.
He programed them on a computer to match my hearing loss. I can now hear
things I haven't heard for a ling time...like birds chirping.
I haven't worn them in the kitfox yet. Mine is very noisey. I have a good
ANR headset and my KX99 is very clear. My problem is there is a college
flight program here and those kids talk so darn fast.
If the other plane has a clear transmission and talks normal I can under
stand them. If too fast or a crappie radio I can't.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots |
BJ,
Great report. Thank you. It sounds like you use an enclosed trailer. Is that correct?
Any photos of your set up? Is your trailer single or double axle? Do
you put your plane on the trailer facing rear or forward? Do you secure the
prop so it won't freewheel (if on an open trailer)?
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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415312#415312
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots |
Steve,
I use an enclosed trailer. The idea of having the plane exposed while
traveling cross country and touring invites problems, kids, road debris,
etc.
Our place in the Florida Keys is an astonishingly corrosive environment
and a typical T hanger rents for $6,000 per year so the trailer also
serves as a hanger for me, which saves lots of money and protects the
plane. A new enclosed trailer for a Kitfox can be had for about $5,500, -
see Barnstormers.
I have loaded the plane both ways in different trailers, currently loading
tail first with the tail wheel on a small (read cheap) flat trailer. I set
it up this way originally to get the best towing weight balance for this
particular enclosed trailer.
However, when the wings are folded The plane is very easy to move, even on
lose gravel with the "large" tail wheel trailer tires. The tail is
elevated on the little trailer of course, so the wings fold and unfold
easy with no down and back force. Wings swing with two fingers. Gas does
not run out of gas caps if the tanks are near full. The tongue of the tail
wheel trailer has a bar extending across it about a foot on each side to
hold onto while moving the plane - works great.
The tongue of the small trailer clamps on a hitch ball mounted to the
front frame of the enclosed trailer so it is locked in position while
bouncing down the road. The plane's tail wheel is pinned into a socket so
it can't move either. And since I siphon gas out of the wings before going
out on the road for long distances or on rough roads, the wing tanks are
about at the perfect angle for siphoning when the tail of the plane is up
on the trailer. I swing one wing, start the siphon on that side while
swinging the other wing, then siphon the second side while installing the
wing support struts.
This sounds time consuming but I can pull the plane out of the enclosed
trailer, tow it thru the back gate of the nearby airport, swing the wings
into position and be ready to fly in 12 minutes make it 15 if I need to
add gas.
The prop with a 912 does not rotate while towing.
I know I gotta get some pictures up.
BJ
Kitfox IV 912 Warp Drive
2004 RT Roadtrek 190 Pop
>
> BJ,
> Great report. Thank you. It sounds like you use an enclosed trailer. Is
> that correct? Any photos of your set up? Is your trailer single or
> double axle? Do you put your plane on the trailer facing rear or forward?
> Do you secure the prop so it won't freewheel (if on an open trailer)?
>
> --------
> Steve Wilson
> Huntsville, UT
> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
> Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415312#415312
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots |
bj,
Trailering would probably not be on my personal agenda, but I wonder how
many of us would like hosting some kitfoxers who do. I live in a
residential airpark and would enjoy travelers to drop by.
Lowell
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From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:22 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots
>
> BJ,
> Great report. Thank you. It sounds like you use an enclosed trailer. Is
> that correct? Any photos of your set up? Is your trailer single or
> double axle? Do you put your plane on the trailer facing rear or forward?
> Do you secure the prop so it won't freewheel (if on an open trailer)?
>
> --------
> Steve Wilson
> Huntsville, UT
> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
> Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415312#415312
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering Kitfox and flying spectacular spots |
BJ,
Sounds like a great setup. My wife and I like to travel and camp. We have horses
so use a pickup and 8.5' camper. I would like to do the same with my Kitfox
as SE Utah is close by and a great place to camp & fly. My plane is now set up
in the tri gear configuration and I just haven't been able to figure out the
best trailer design/towing configuration. I'm just a little frustrated with the
whole idea.
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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415328#415328
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy right wing |
On 12/10/2013 12:02 AM, Sacha wrote:
> PS. Guy, just noticed you're in KRMN. I did my PPL in KSEE in 2011.
> Was hoping to return there sometime next year to do some more flying,
> if I do I'll try and look you up if that's ok.
Do that. If you come late enough next year I'll be flying too! Otherwise
I can take you for a glider flight.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
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| Subject: | Heavy right wing |
Guy,
Do you commute all the way from California to Stafford, Virginia to fly? Or
did Sacha mis-type the airport designator?
Mike Logan
VA42, 2.5 miles from KRMN in Stafford, VA
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Heavy right wing
On 12/10/2013 12:02 AM, Sacha wrote:
PS. Guy, just noticed you're in KRMN. I did my PPL in KSEE in 2011. Was
hoping to return there sometime next year to do some more flying, if I do
I'll try and look you up if that's ok.
Do that. If you come late enough next year I'll be flying too! Otherwise I
can take you for a glider flight.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
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Lowell, WOW! I'm not much of a camera buff. But, after your description I
want one.
--
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy right wing |
Oops, i meant KRNM!
On Dec 10, 2013, at 23:34, "Mike Logan" <michaellogan41@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guy,
>
> Do you commute all the way from California to Stafford, Virginia to fly? O
r did Sacha mis-type the airport designator?
>
> Mike Logan
> VA42, 2.5 miles from KRMN in Stafford, VA
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:03 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Heavy right wing
>
> On 12/10/2013 12:02 AM, Sacha wrote:
> PS. Guy, just noticed you=81fre in KRMN. I did my PPL in KSEE in 2011. W
as hoping to return there sometime next year to do some more flying, if I do
I=81fll try and look you up if that=81fs ok.
>
> Do that. If you come late enough next year I'll be flying too! Otherwise I
can take you for a glider flight.
>
> Guy Buchanan
> Ramona, CA
> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
> Now a glider pilot, too.
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy right wing |
Well, I /would/. But no, the farthest east I've been with my Fox is Ft.
Worth. I'm pretty sure he really meant KRNM, which is Ramona, CA.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
On 12/10/2013 2:34 PM, Mike Logan wrote:
>
> Guy,
>
> Do you commute all the way from California to Stafford, Virginia to
> fly? Or did Sacha mis-type the airport designator?
>
> Mike Logan
>
> VA42, 2.5 miles from KRMN in Stafford, VA
>
> *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Guy
> Buchanan
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:03 PM
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Heavy right wing
>
> On 12/10/2013 12:02 AM, Sacha wrote:
>
> PS. Guy, just noticed you're in KRMN. I did my PPL in KSEE in
> 2011. Was hoping to return there sometime next year to do some
> more flying, if I do I'll try and look you up if that's ok.
>
>
> Do that. If you come late enough next year I'll be flying too!
> Otherwise I can take you for a glider flight.
>
> Guy Buchanan
> Ramona, CA
> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
> Now a glider pilot, too.
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