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Mon 04/13/15


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 09:00 AM - Bungie Gear (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     2. 02:01 PM - Motor Mount Paint (Guy Buchanan)
     3. 06:16 PM - Re: Motor Mount Paint (Andy Fultz)
     4. 07:15 PM - Re: Motor Mount Paint (Temco)
     5. 07:35 PM - Re: Motor Mount Paint (Lowell Fitt)
     6. 08:53 PM - Re: Motor Mount Paint (Temco)
     7. 10:04 PM - Re: Motor Mount Paint (Guy Buchanan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:00:32 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Bungie Gear
    Anyone out there have a Kitfox 4 bungie gear.=C2- I just missed getting a set on Barnstormers last week. =C2- John Kerr Logan UT


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    Time: 02:01:44 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net>
    Subject: Motor Mount Paint
    Hi all, Long time. I just got my 912 motor mount back from powder coating. Did you guys who painted / coated your motor mounts, remove the coating between the engine and mount? Or did you just torque down over the paint / coating? I will be removing it between the mount and frame, that's easy. It's harder between the mount and the engine. Thanks, Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too.


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    Time: 06:16:33 PM PST US
    From: Andy Fultz <andynfultz@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Motor Mount Paint
    Guy, why would you remove any paint? It's there after all to protect the metal from rusting. Andy F Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote: > > > Hi all, > Long time. I just got my 912 motor mount back from powder coating. Did you guys who painted / coated your motor mounts, remove the coating between the engine and mount? Or did you just torque down over the paint / coating? I will be removing it between the mount and frame, that's easy. It's harder between the mount and the engine. > > Thanks, > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:15:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Motor Mount Paint
    From: Temco <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Hello Guy Not sure why you would want to remove the powder coat from between the mount and the engine as this is where the rubber donuts (Vibration dampening) go. Normally the powder coating is left in place and engine to frame electrical bonding is done via a very flexible heavy gauge cable from the engine directly to a good ground point on the frame and to your electrical ground bus somewhere near your instrument panel.. Hope this helps Ted Palamarek Edmonton, Alberta KF IV/912UL > On Apr 13, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Andy Fultz <andynfultz@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > Guy, why would you remove any paint? It's there after all to protect the metal from rusting. > > Andy F > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> Long time. I just got my 912 motor mount back from powder coating. Did you guys who painted / coated your motor mounts, remove the coating between the engine and mount? Or did you just torque down over the paint / coating? I will be removing it between the mount and frame, that's easy. It's harder between the mount and the engine. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Guy Buchanan >> Ramona, CA >> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded >> Now a glider pilot, too. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 07:35:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Motor Mount Paint
    From: Lowell Fitt <lcfitt3@gmail.com>
    Guy, Do you have the original style mounts for the IV. If so, I would remove the powder coating at the the cap screws that screw into the engine. I would think that vibration and the compressive forces might crush the powder coat and affect torque over time. Then again retorquing every annual would take care of that possibility. Lowell On Apr 13, 2015 7:17 PM, "Temco" <temco@telusplanet.net> wrote: > > Hello Guy > > Not sure why you would want to remove the powder coat from between the > mount and the engine as this is where the rubber donuts (Vibration > dampening) go. Normally the powder coating is left in place and engine to > frame electrical bonding is done via a very flexible heavy gauge cable from > the engine directly to a good ground point on the frame and to your > electrical ground bus somewhere near your instrument panel.. > > Hope this helps > > Ted Palamarek > Edmonton, Alberta > KF IV/912UL > > > On Apr 13, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Andy Fultz <andynfultz@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > > > > Guy, why would you remove any paint? It's there after all to protect the > metal from rusting. > > > > Andy F > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> Long time. I just got my 912 motor mount back from powder coating. > Did you guys who painted / coated your motor mounts, remove the coating > between the engine and mount? Or did you just torque down over the paint / > coating? I will be removing it between the mount and frame, that's easy. > It's harder between the mount and the engine. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Guy Buchanan > >> Ramona, CA > >> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > >> Now a glider pilot, too. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:53:10 PM PST US
    From: Temco <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Motor Mount Paint
    Lowell you are correct about the cap screws as this is a metal to metal contact. Since you finished you project we haven=99t heard to much from you. How is the machine performing? I=99ve been travelling and doing part time contracting so work on my machine is currently stalled and I just can=99t seem to find the time to get back building. Probably a good kick in the butt would be appropriate at this time to get me in gear and finish the model IV. I=99ve had the engine running and prop adjusted and that all works fine. Regards =94 Ted > On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt3@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Guy, > Do you have the original style mounts for the IV. If so, I would remove the powder coating at the the cap screws that screw into the engine. I would think that vibration and the compressive forces might crush the powder coat and affect torque over time. Then again retorquing every annual would take care of that possibility. > Lowell > > On Apr 13, 2015 7:17 PM, "Temco" <temco@telusplanet.net <mailto:temco@telusplanet.net>> wrote: <mailto:temco@telusplanet.net>> > > Hello Guy > > Not sure why you would want to remove the powder coat from between the mount and the engine as this is where the rubber donuts (Vibration dampening) go. Normally the powder coating is left in place and engine to frame electrical bonding is done via a very flexible heavy gauge cable from the engine directly to a good ground point on the frame and to your electrical ground bus somewhere near your instrument panel.. > > Hope this helps > > Ted Palamarek > Edmonton, Alberta > KF IV/912UL > > > On Apr 13, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Andy Fultz <andynfultz@bellsouth.net <mailto:andynfultz@bellsouth.net>> wrote: > > <andynfultz@bellsouth.net <mailto:andynfultz@bellsouth.net>> > > > > Guy, why would you remove any paint? It's there after all to protect the metal from rusting. > > > > Andy F > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net <mailto:gebuchanan@cox.net>> wrote: > >> <mailto:gebuchanan@cox.net>> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> Long time. I just got my 912 motor mount back from powder coating. Did you guys who painted / coated your motor mounts, remove the coating between the engine and mount? Or did you just torque down over the paint / coating? I will be removing it between the mount and frame, that's easy. It's harder between the mount and the engine. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Guy Buchanan > >> Ramona, CA > >> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded > >> Now a glider pilot, too. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > ox-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List> > ========== > FORUMS - > _blank">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ========== > > > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > >


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    Time: 10:04:42 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Motor Mount Paint
    Well that's the question. I'm not worried about bonding, I handle that separately, but if I don't have metal/metal contact will I loose torque over time? Or worse yet, will I just crack up the powder coat so it flakes off? Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too._* *_ On 4/13/2015 7:34 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > > > Guy, > Do you have the original style mounts for the IV. If so, I would > remove the powder coating at the the cap screws that screw into the > engine. I would think that vibration and the compressive forces might > crush the powder coat and affect torque over time. Then again > retorquing every annual would take care of that possibility. > Lowell > >




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