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1. 05:30 AM - Re: Re: Hard Landing (Catz631@aol.com)
2. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: Hard Landing (Lowell Fitt)
3. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: Hard Landing (Harry Cieslar)
4. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: Hard Landing (Roger Standley)
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| Subject: | Re: Hard Landing |
Or you could go with the "bush gear" as I have on my aircraft. Gear spread
goes from 4 ft to 7 ft and you achieve greater stability on the ground as
well as in the air on final (outrigger effect) PLUS the gear weight is about
the same as the original. In my case, I weighed each of the pieces before
mounting the gear as well as weighing the original gear and I actually came out
a couple of lbs lighter with the "bush gear"
I am EXTREMELY happy with the "bush gear" ! It requires no maintenance (no
bungees) and was easy to install. Have had it installed for a few years now.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
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| Subject: | Re: Hard Landing |
Yes in the good old days. My guess is Grove got tired of the free bend
fixes, now they have switched to 7075 T6 alloy. It is a much tougher alloy
and with exactly what ramifications, who knows. There is no question,
though, that the early Kitfox airframe is not real robust where the landing
gear attaches. Maybe that is why the early bungee gear had such a poor
reputation for folding up in ground loops. Fix the droop tip and a new
gear - not nearly the challenge of a lower fuselage rebuild.
Lowell
On May 2, 2015 10:45 PM, "Guy Buchanan" <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
> Personally I never liked the way the Grove gear handled on the ground.
> When my gear's bottomed out it's very stiff. The Grove gear always kind o
f
> wandered and the wings rocked a lot more and everything seemed "looser".
I
> guess I always liked the more positive feel of the tube gear. I do conced
e,
> though, that the Grove gear can withstand an *amazing *amount of abuse.
> Worst case is that you bend it. Then you send it in and they bend it back
> for you. Very convenient.
>
> Guy Buchanan
> Ramona, CA
> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
> Now a glider pilot, too.
>
>
> On 5/2/2015 4:54 PM, "Jos=C3=A9 M. Toro" wrote:
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= <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
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> There is a significant difference in the weight of the Grove landing gear
vs the original one. This was my experience...
>
> Jos=C3=A9
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 2, 2015, at 9:57 AM, SkySteve <Wilson@REinfo.org> <Wilson@REinfo.
org> wrote:
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> John, I saw your plane yesterday. It's looking real good. You really shou
ld put the Grove gear on it. It makes a world of difference. I put it on my
plane and love it.
>
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> Steve Wilson
> Huntsville, UT
> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
> Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
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> Read this topic online here:
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441615#441615
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| Subject: | Re: Hard Landing |
Have not wrote in for years. Can I use my wheels on the bush gear?
Harry Cieslar, Avid Magnum, Ontario, Canada
From: Guy Buchanan
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hard Landing
Personally I never liked the way the Grove gear handled on the ground.
When my gear's bottomed out it's very stiff. The Grove gear always kind
of wandered and the wings rocked a lot more and everything seemed
"looser". I guess I always liked the more positive feel of the tube
gear. I do concede, though, that the Grove gear can withstand an amazing
amount of abuse. Worst case is that you bend it. Then you send it in and
they bend it back for you. Very convenient.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
On 5/2/2015 4:54 PM, "Jos=C3=A9 M. Toro" wrote:
?= mailto:jose_m_toro@yahoo.com
There is a significant difference in the weight of the Grove landing
gear vs the original one. This was my experience...
Jos=C3=A9
Sent from my iPhone
On May 2, 2015, at 9:57 AM, SkySteve mailto:Wilson@REinfo.org wrote:
John, I saw your plane yesterday. It's looking real good. You really
should put the Grove gear on it. It makes a world of difference. I put
it on my plane and love it.
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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441615#441615
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| Subject: | Re: Hard Landing |
I agree with most of what has been said. I really like my Grove gear. But f
or those enthusiasts who want the look and feel of the classic Kitfox exper
ience=2C I have unused Model 4 bungee landing gear that I put on Barnstorme
rs. Respond direct on this list for a better deal. I also have available an
unused Twin Pin Door Latch kit. Yup=2C it must be Spring. Time to straight
en up the hangar!
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hard Landing
From: lcfitt3@gmail.com
Yes in the good old days. My guess is Grove got tired of the free bend fix
es=2C now they have switched to 7075 T6 alloy. It is a much tougher alloy
and with exactly what ramifications=2C who knows. There is no question=2C
though=2C that the early Kitfox airframe is not real robust where the landi
ng gear attaches. Maybe that is why the early bungee gear had such a poor
reputation for folding up in ground loops. Fix the droop tip and a new ge
ar - not nearly the challenge of a lower fuselage rebuild.
Lowell
On May 2=2C 2015 10:45 PM=2C "Guy Buchanan" <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
Personally I never liked the way the
Grove gear handled on the ground. When my gear's bottomed out it's
very stiff. The Grove gear always kind of wandered and the wings
rocked a lot more and everything seemed "looser". I guess I always
liked the more positive feel of the tube gear. I do concede=2C
though=2C that the Grove gear can withstand an amazing amount
of abuse. Worst case is that you bend it. Then you send it in and
they bend it back for you. Very convenient.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona=2C CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot=2C too.
On 5/2/2015 4:54 PM=2C "Jos=E9 M. Toro" wrote:
o" ?= <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
There is a significant difference in the weight of the Grove landing gear v
s the original one. This was my experience...
Jos=E9
Sent from my iPhone
On May 2=2C 2015=2C at 9:57 AM=2C SkySteve <Wilson@REinfo.org> wrot
e:
John=2C I saw your plane yesterday. It's looking real good. You really shou
ld put the Grove gear on it. It makes a world of difference. I put it on my
plane and love it.
--------
Steve Wilson
Huntsville=2C UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel &=3B Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
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