---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/31/15: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:33 PM - Re: overheating (Marco Menezes) 2. 03:31 PM - Re: overheating (Dave) 3. 04:19 PM - Re: overheating (poasttown@yahoo.com) 4. 04:30 PM - Re: overheating (Lowell Fitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:01 PM PST US From: Marco Menezes Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: overheating How about a richer mixture in the mid-rpm range? I.e., by switching to smal ler jet needles. Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2, 582-90 w/clutchHersey, MI From: TURBO T To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:52 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: overheating #yiv7318603789 p {margin:0;}Got a model 2 KF with 582 that's getting to war m 180-200 under load.=C2-Did a bunch of reading & came up with this plan. =C2-On next trip to airport am going to try the following in stages;=C2 -- check coolant mix- drop rad 1" to get into more airflow, & fill 1" spa ce with foam to seal gap ( have standard ( I think ) 4"ish high rad under c abin )- check for a thermostat & check its temp setting- pull rad & check f or scale buildup=C2-May try a laser thermometer on head to check the temp gauge also.=C2-Anyone been through this & want to add anything.=C2-=C2 -=C2- =C2- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:31:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: overheating From: Dave Use 90 % distilled water Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2015, at 15:32, Marco Menezes wrote: > > How about a richer mixture in the mid-rpm range? I.e., by switching to sma ller jet needles. > > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2, 582-90 w/clutch > Hersey, MI > > From: TURBO T > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:52 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: overheating > > Got a model 2 KF with 582 that's getting to warm 180-200 under load. > > Did a bunch of reading & came up with this plan. > > On next trip to airport am going to try the following in stages; > > - check coolant mix > - drop rad 1" to get into more airflow, & fill 1" space with foam to seal g ap ( have standard ( I think ) 4"ish high rad under cabin ) > - check for a thermostat & check its temp setting > - pull rad & check for scale buildup > > May try a laser thermometer on head to check the temp gauge also. > > Anyone been through this & want to add anything. > > > > > > > > ronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfo x-List > matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: overheating From: poasttown@yahoo.com When I had a 582 on my mod. IV, now have a Jabiru, I had a similar problem a nd did many of the things you have done including; lowering the radiator, ad ding a shroud around the radiator, checked thermostat and coolant. I even wo uld turn the heater on on run up and climb out which did help some. Sorry t o say that I never really solved the problem. On the plus side I did most of my flying in the early A.M. or later in the afternoon. After much head scr atching and talking to some of the Rotax reps at Oshkosh my conclusion, whic h could have been incorrect, was to closely monitor the situation and contin ue to fly. In a few situations with both the Rotax and Jabiru I discovered a faulty sensor or gauge and not an actual engine issue at all. I'm sure my r amblings are not very helpful but you may want to talk to a factory rep if p ossible. Mike 1996 Kitfox IV Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Dave wrote: > > Use 90 % distilled water > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 31, 2015, at 15:32, Marco Menezes wrote: >> >> How about a richer mixture in the mid-rpm range? I.e., by switching to sm aller jet needles. >> >> >> Marco Menezes N99KX >> Model 2, 582-90 w/clutch >> Hersey, MI >> >> From: TURBO T >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:52 AM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: overheating >> >> Got a model 2 KF with 582 that's getting to warm 180-200 under load. >> >> Did a bunch of reading & came up with this plan. >> >> On next trip to airport am going to try the following in stages; >> >> - check coolant mix >> - drop rad 1" to get into more airflow, & fill 1" space with foam to seal gap ( have standard ( I think ) 4"ish high rad under cabin ) >> - check for a thermostat & check its temp setting >> - pull rad & check for scale buildup >> >> May try a laser thermometer on head to check the temp gauge also. >> >> Anyone been through this & want to add anything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitf ox-List >> matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com >> ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> x-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> //forums.matronics.com >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: overheating From: Lowell Fitt Back in the day there were several guys that routinely moved their radiators down an inch or so in the summer then back up when the temps cooled down. Lowell On Aug 31, 2015 6:33 PM, "Dave" wrote: > Use 90 % distilled water > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 31, 2015, at 15:32, Marco Menezes wrote: > > How about a richer mixture in the mid-rpm range? I.e., by switching to > smaller jet needles. > > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Model 2, 582-90 w/clutch > Hersey, MI > > ------------------------------ > *From:* TURBO T > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:52 AM > *Subject:* Kitfox-List: overheating > > Got a model 2 KF with 582 that's getting to warm 180-200 under load. > > Did a bunch of reading & came up with this plan. > > On next trip to airport am going to try the following in stages; > > - check coolant mix > - drop rad 1" to get into more airflow, & fill 1" space with foam to seal > gap ( have standard ( I think ) 4"ish high rad under cabin ) > - check for a thermostat & check its temp setting > - pull rad & check for scale buildup > > May try a laser thermometer on head to check the temp gauge also. > > Anyone been through this & want to add anything. > > > * > > ronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > matronics.com/ ">http://forums.matronics.com > ronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > D============================================ > x-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > D============================================ > //forums.matronics.com > D============================================ > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D============================================ > > * > > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.