---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/24/16: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:03 AM - Tow bar fit (TURBO T) 2. 11:19 AM - Re: Tow bar fit (Pete Christensen) 3. 11:26 AM - Re: Tow bar fit (Andy Fultz) 4. 02:21 PM - Re: Tow bar fit (Stan Specht) 5. 03:14 PM - Re: Tow bar alterantive & Kitfox flying adventures (bjones@dmv.com) 6. 03:44 PM - Re: Tow bar fit (Rex) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:32 AM PST US From: TURBO T Subject: Kitfox-List: Tow bar fit Im building a tow bar for a KF2 Should the brackets fit tight against the fuselage or have a gap & let the cross rods take the load ? Am worried about the side mounts wearing the fabric. Thanks ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tow bar fit From: Pete Christensen > On Jun 24, 2016, at 12:02 PM, TURBO T wrote: > > Im building a tow bar for a KF2 > > Should the brackets fit tight against the fuselage or have a gap & let the cross rods take the load ? > > Am worried about the side mounts wearing the fabric. > > > > Thanks > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:26:28 AM PST US From: Andy Fultz Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tow bar fit The attach points on the fuselage should extend out past the fabric about 3/ 8" and should not allow the tow bar to come in contact with the fabric when a ttached. Andy F Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2016, at 12:02 PM, TURBO T wrote: > > Im building a tow bar for a KF2 > > Should the brackets fit tight against the fuselage or have a gap & let the cross rods take the load ? > > Am worried about the side mounts wearing the fabric. > > > > Thanks > > > > ========================== ========================== ========================= _ ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tow bar fit From: Stan Specht I share your concern! My tow bar has just enough room on each side to insert a rubber isolator between the bar and fuselage. Stan Model 4 speedster Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Jun 2016, at 11:02 am, TURBO T wrote: > > Im building a tow bar for a KF2 > > Should the brackets fit tight against the fuselage or have a gap & let the cross rods take the load ? > > Am worried about the side mounts wearing the fabric. > > > > Thanks > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tow bar alterantive & Kitfox flying adventures From: bjones@dmv.com Some food for thought. A very small flat bed trailer can be purchased for under $200 (Harbor Freight - sale price). I have been towing my model IV between our house and the local public use airport for over a decade using one and love it. At first blush the idea of a little trailer seems cumbersome, but........read on. My model IV, 1050, with Rotax 912 is very easy to lift at the tail (model 7 is heavier at tail), so setting the tail wheel in a pocket made out of short pieces of 2 X 4 on the deck of the flat bed directly over the small trailer's axle for balance, is easy. (Pin or strap the tail wheel so it can not hop out) Now to the good parts, Because the tail is elevated on the flat bed, the wings are very easy to fold (with elimination of almost all down force from gravity trying to fold the wings against the tail) thus there is far less risk of crunching a flaperon or punching a hole in fuselage fabric. If you are trying to fold the wings when the bugs are biting, rains a falling or winds a blowing, having the wings nearly level really makes the job safer and easier. Because the tail is up and wings nearly level, fuel does not tend to run to the low end of the tank where the gas cap is, out thru the cap onto the wings and into the environment. Assuming your tail wheel casters, then the little trailer can be turned 360 degrees for maneuvering. I rotate the trailer tongue to the side or ahead once the rig is in the garage and so no need bothering to disconnect the plane from the trailer for storage. (In fact for over a decade we have pulled the plane into an enclosed "car" trailer using the little tail wheel trailer and taken the rig from the Florida Keys, to Maine, to the Pacific coast behind our RV, having a HOOT flying low and slow in spectacular scenery, as we travel across the country thru national parks, sea shores and fascinating flying locations all over the country. Forums on this will be presented at Air Venture near Red Barn Thursday 2:30 and Friday at 4:00, nothing to sell just sharing fun flying as a Southernmost EAA Chapter 1241 Marathon, Florida Keys member.) By the way, the little trailer has relatively large tires compared to the typical tail wheel tire so moving the plane on soft surfaces, over small roots and rocks, across irregular concrete surfaces, etc. is easier than with the plane down on its tail wheel. An 18 inch piece of all thread replacing the rear bolt attaching the hitch coupler to the trailer tongue makes a convenient handle for moving the plane and trailer by hand. Pictures of all this and the rest of the story at OSH if you are interested. BJ Kitfox IV, 912, Warp Drive wings off for recover bjones@dmv.com > The attach points on the fuselage should extend out past the fabric about > 3/8" and should not allow the tow bar to come in contact with the fabric > when attached. > > Andy F > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 12:02 PM, TURBO T wrote: >> >> Im building a tow bar for a KF2 >> >> Should the brackets fit tight against the fuselage or have a gap & let >> the cross rods take the load ? >> >> Am worried about the side mounts wearing the fabric. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> > ============================================================================ > _================================================================================================================================================ > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tow bar fit From: Rex I have a towbar for my KF2 that I believe was factory made and can supply dimensions and photos. Rex KF2 582 Pueblo, CO On 6/24/2016 11:02 AM, TURBO T wrote: > > Im building a tow bar for a KF2 > > Should the brackets fit tight against the fuselage or have a gap & let > the cross rods take the load ? > > Am worried about the side mounts wearing the fabric. > > Thanks > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.