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1. 03:49 AM - Re: New builder (poasttown@yahoo.com)
2. 07:04 AM - Re: New builder (mikeperkins)
3. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: New builder (poasttown@yahoo.com)
4. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: New builder (Guy Buchanan)
5. 08:52 AM - Re: Checking In (Cal Anderson)
6. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: Checking In (Pete Christensen)
7. 09:53 AM - Re: Checking In (fisherflyer)
8. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: Checking In (Patrick Reilly)
9. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: New builder (Patrick Reilly)
10. 10:57 AM - Re: Checking In (Weiss Richard)
11. 04:07 PM - Re: Re: Checking In (poasttown@yahoo.com)
12. 06:45 PM - Re: Checking In (fisherflyer)
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I also used this list just about daily when I was building back in 1996 and e
ven for years later. Traffic has slowed to almost nothing in the past few y
ears and I occasionally will look at the other site.
Mike
1996 Kitfox IV
Rotax 582/Jabiru 2200
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Paul
> I think I understand that you are ready to install the cowl. If so and y
ou still waiting for that part of the manual, send a note affirming your nee
ds and I can send you a PDF of those pages from my 1993, manual.
> Lowell
>
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, David <davestapa@juno.com> wrote:
>> I'm still here Roger.
>>
>>
>>
>> C. David Estapa
>>
>> Woodstock, Georgia
>>
>> davestapa@juno.com
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>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-se
rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley
>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 11:04 AM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New builder
>>
>>
>>
>> FWIW Many of us still monitor this list. Anyone else want to check in?
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> Model 4-1200
>>
>> First flight 2001
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com <owner-kitfox-list-server@ma
tronics.com> on behalf of Jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:01 AM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New builder
>>
>>
>>
>> Built my model iv back when this list was super active and esp helpful. R
edoing my model with drone eng now. Not on email alot but email direct if u g
et stumped. May not know answer but may have asked it.
>> Jared
>>
>> On March 25, 2017 10:52:05 PM CDT, Mark Donahue <marktdonahue@comcast.net
> wrote:
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>> Hey Paul,
>>
>> I built and still have my Kitfox model 4. My new ride is a RV 9a.
>>
>> Wonder if we are related.
>>
>> Mark Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-se
rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Reilly
>> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:06 AM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New builder
>>
>>
>>
>> Couldn't have rebuilt my Mod 3 without this sight. Not much activity here
anymore. Too bad, this site is user friendly and Team Kitfox is a pain in t
he ass.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>>
>> Rebuilt Mod III 582 Rotax
>>
>> Rockford, IL
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt3@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I have to agree with Guy. I am on both and have built two Model IVs. Lo
ts of help both places, though Team Kitfox is heavy in Series 7 builds.
>>
>> Lowell
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2017 8:12 PM, "Guy Buchanan" <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
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>>
>> This and TeamKitfox.com.
>>
>> Guy Buchanan
>> Ramona, CA
>> Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 600 hrs
>> Glider pilot, too
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>>
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>>
>> On 3/23/2017 2:53 AM, nightmare wrote:
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m>
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>> Hey guys. Im purchasing a kitfox 4 project and wanted to find the best pl
ace to ask questions/look at others build pi s, etc. Is this the best place o
r is there another?
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>> Paul Donahue
>> Started 8-3-12
>> do not archive
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
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>> W10 0290 Rebuild
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I've been flying my Model I since 1994. A few upgrades along the way - traded the
original pair of 6-gallon aluminum wingtanks for 13-gallon fiberglass tanks,
added intercom, comm radio, and transponder. Next month will be replacing the
worn-out 66" three-blade GSC prop the same kind but with LE protection. Starting
to think about ADS-B.
--------
Mike Perkins
Havana, Illinois
Model I, 532, B gearbox, GSC prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467673#467673
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Mike Perkins
Also thinking about ADS-B but not in a big hurry. Hoping that the solutions and/or
my options will increase as time goes on.
Mike
1996 Kitfox IV
Jabiru 2200
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:04 AM, mikeperkins <flybyewire@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I've been flying my Model I since 1994. A few upgrades along the way - traded
the original pair of 6-gallon aluminum wingtanks for 13-gallon fiberglass tanks,
added intercom, comm radio, and transponder. Next month will be replacing
the worn-out 66" three-blade GSC prop the same kind but with LE protection. Starting
to think about ADS-B.
>
> --------
> Mike Perkins
> Havana, Illinois
> Model I, 532, B gearbox, GSC prop
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467673#467673
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I highly recommend the Stratux ads-b receiver kit. Great value if you already have
some kind of tablet. I use the free Fltplan Go software. Total investment
~$100.
Guy Buchanan
gebuchanan@cox.net
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 AM, poasttown@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> Mike Perkins
>
> Also thinking about ADS-B but not in a big hurry. Hoping that the solutions and/or
my options will increase as time goes on.
>
> Mike
> 1996 Kitfox IV
> Jabiru 2200
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:04 AM, mikeperkins <flybyewire@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've been flying my Model I since 1994. A few upgrades along the way - traded
the original pair of 6-gallon aluminum wingtanks for 13-gallon fiberglass tanks,
added intercom, comm radio, and transponder. Next month will be replacing
the worn-out 66" three-blade GSC prop the same kind but with LE protection. Starting
to think about ADS-B.
>>
>> --------
>> Mike Perkins
>> Havana, Illinois
>> Model I, 532, B gearbox, GSC prop
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467673#467673
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Fairly new member here (only a couple years, and never posted before). I
bought my KitFox lll
about three years ago. Did a complete paint job and lots of other little
maint. and creature comfort
mods. I'm running a 912UL and IVO prop. Down for its operating inspection
and am replacing my panel.
Still a student pilot. Built a PPC back in about 1982, flew it many years
and switched to a weight shift trike.
Then moved on the a Fisher 202 Koala. Still have the trike,but will be
selling it soon. Learned to fly them all
on my own until I got the KF. Flying isn't a problem but learning all the
regs, airspace, etc. has proven to be a
large job for an old guy. That and finding an instructor willing to teach in
an experimental taildragger.
Had one who didn't want top fly behind a Rotax, one ground looped it and
backed out, one died in a trike
accident in AR., 2 that said they would but never could make the time. One
flew with me for a couple hrs.
but is too far away (200 miles) and the one that gave me ALMOST enough hrs.
moved to MS before we got done.
So I'm once again looking for an instructor. And believe me, ND doesnt have
a whole lot of them. But by hook
of crook I'll get there.
I do have a trailer and would take it out of state if I could find someone
willing to try to get me done in a few days.
Still need my Xcountries and a sign off for the practical.
Cal Anderson
N514RC
Enderlin ND
-----Original Message-----
From: Kitfox-List Digest Server
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:04 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/26/17
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Cal, Why not call Stuck and Rudder in Idaho. Maybe you can work something out.
Pete
Kitfox III, Sn 1000, 912
Leander, Tx
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Cal Anderson <calvin@mlgc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Fairly new member here (only a couple years, and never posted before). I bought
my KitFox lll
> about three years ago. Did a complete paint job and lots of other little maint.
and creature comfort
> mods. I'm running a 912UL and IVO prop. Down for its operating inspection and
am replacing my panel.
> Still a student pilot. Built a PPC back in about 1982, flew it many years and
switched to a weight shift trike.
> Then moved on the a Fisher 202 Koala. Still have the trike,but will be selling
it soon. Learned to fly them all
> on my own until I got the KF. Flying isn't a problem but learning all the regs,
airspace, etc. has proven to be a
> large job for an old guy. That and finding an instructor willing to teach in
an experimental taildragger.
> Had one who didn't want top fly behind a Rotax, one ground looped it and backed
out, one died in a trike
> accident in AR., 2 that said they would but never could make the time. One flew
with me for a couple hrs.
> but is too far away (200 miles) and the one that gave me ALMOST enough hrs. moved
to MS before we got done.
> So I'm once again looking for an instructor. And believe me, ND doesnt have a
whole lot of them. But by hook
> of crook I'll get there.
> I do have a trailer and would take it out of state if I could find someone willing
to try to get me done in a few days.
> Still need my Xcountries and a sign off for the practical.
> Cal Anderson
> N514RC
> Enderlin ND
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kitfox-List Digest Server
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:04 AM
> To: Kitfox-List Digest List
> Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/26/17
>
>
>
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Yeah I would love to go fly with them. However they are a little out of my price
range. And a bit farther than I would like to go. Great reputation though.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467691#467691
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Cal, Great to hear of another "Old Guy" getting his license. I was 65 when
I got mine. I did have an ultra light 20 years previous. Just how old is an
old guy, anyway?
I had started taking lessons in a Cessna 172 but wanted to fly a real
airplane with a stick between your legs and a wheel on the back. I bought a
wrecked Model 3 no panel or engine, needed recovering and a new landing
gear installed. It was set up for that Rotax 912 like yours.
I found a club 20 miles away with a Champ. I joined got 10 hrs instruction
and soloed in the champ. My instructor said he'd sign my log book next time
after he showed me how to tie the plane down to prop it. I didn't know it
at the time. One of his previous students started the plane without tying
it down. The plane hit a hanger and totaled the plane out.
Well, to make a long story a little shorter, a student totaled the club's
172 the next week. That was the club's 3rd claim for a totaled airplane in
5 years. They lost their insurance. I started in serious on restoring my
mod. III. I found a Rotax 582 complete with prop, mount everything and
converted to the 2 stroke. I'm an "old dirt bike rider" and love 2 strokes
anyway.
The club got their insurance coverage back, but had sold the Champ. I
finished getting my license in a Cessna 152 3 years after I started and
completed the Kitfox restoration a few months later. Don't give up. Sounds
like you won't anyway.
I have 200 hours on the Kitfox and am rebuilding a Whitman Tailwind that I
will have up this year.
Welcome to the Matronics site. I couldn't have rebuilt my plane without.
The newer Kitfox Team site is a pain in the ass. Not user friendly. There
are still enough old guys monitoring this site to answer your questions.
And, if you are truly an "old guy" you will appreciate the simplicity of
this site. Guess I'll have to start contributing to the site again if I'm
going to use it.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Pete Christensen <
pchristensen10@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> pchristensen10@austin.rr.com>
>
> Cal, Why not call Stuck and Rudder in Idaho. Maybe you can work something
> out.
>
> Pete
> Kitfox III, Sn 1000, 912
> Leander, Tx
>
> > On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Cal Anderson <calvin@mlgc.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Fairly new member here (only a couple years, and never posted before).
I
> bought my KitFox lll
> > about three years ago. Did a complete paint job and lots of other littl
e
> maint. and creature comfort
> > mods. I'm running a 912UL and IVO prop. Down for its operating
> inspection and am replacing my panel.
> > Still a student pilot. Built a PPC back in about 1982, flew it many
> years and switched to a weight shift trike.
> > Then moved on the a Fisher 202 Koala. Still have the trike,but will be
> selling it soon. Learned to fly them all
> > on my own until I got the KF. Flying isn't a problem but learning all
> the regs, airspace, etc. has proven to be a
> > large job for an old guy. That and finding an instructor willing to
> teach in an experimental taildragger.
> > Had one who didn't want top fly behind a Rotax, one ground looped it an
d
> backed out, one died in a trike
> > accident in AR., 2 that said they would but never could make the time.
> One flew with me for a couple hrs.
> > but is too far away (200 miles) and the one that gave me ALMOST enough
> hrs. moved to MS before we got done.
> > So I'm once again looking for an instructor. And believe me, ND doesn
=99t
> have a whole lot of them. But by hook
> > of crook I'll get there.
> > I do have a trailer and would take it out of state if I could find
> someone willing to try to get me done in a few days.
> > Still need my Xcountries and a sign off for the practical.
> > Cal Anderson
> > N514RC
> > Enderlin ND
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Kitfox-List Digest Server
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:04 AM
> > To: Kitfox-List Digest List
> > Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/26/17
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
W10 0290 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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Mike, I am in Rockford, IL If you are up for long cross country and want to
stop at Cottonwood airport 1C8 give me a call. Our gas pumps are locked up.
But, if I am there with the key, you can fuel up.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I highly recommend the Stratux ads-b receiver kit. Great value if you
> already have some kind of tablet. I use the free Fltplan Go software. Total
> investment ~$100.
>
> Guy Buchanan
> gebuchanan@cox.net
>
> > On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 AM, poasttown@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mike Perkins
> >
> > Also thinking about ADS-B but not in a big hurry. Hoping that the
> solutions and/or my options will increase as time goes on.
> >
> > Mike
> > 1996 Kitfox IV
> > Jabiru 2200
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:04 AM, mikeperkins <flybyewire@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I've been flying my Model I since 1994. A few upgrades along the way -
> traded the original pair of 6-gallon aluminum wingtanks for 13-gallon
> fiberglass tanks, added intercom, comm radio, and transponder. Next month
> will be replacing the worn-out 66" three-blade GSC prop the same kind but
> with LE protection. Starting to think about ADS-B.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Mike Perkins
> >> Havana, Illinois
> >> Model I, 532, B gearbox, GSC prop
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467673#467673
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
W10 0290 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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Hi guys. Just checking in. Been flying my Series V since 09. Lots of fun. Be
aware; I have a Maule tail wheel and the lock failed. The airplane became Mr.
Toads wild ride during landing. No ground loop but as close to out of control
as I ever want to be and I have 10k hours and over 50 years of flying. Other
than that it's been a great trouble free plane. Just be sure to service those
items that require it at the condition inspection.
I found this list and the people on it to be top notch and willing to help whenever
possible. Thank you for that. New guys should probably do both lists and
take advantage of the vast experience base of both.
Hope to see you all at Oshkosh 2017.
Regards,
Rick Weiss
Series V Speedster S/N 001. Rotax power, Dynon guidance.
Chairman, EAA Homebuilt Aircraft Council and EAA board member.
Cheers and Fly Safe!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Cal Anderson <calvin@mlgc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Fairly new member here (only a couple years, and never posted before). I bought
my KitFox lll
> about three years ago. Did a complete paint job and lots of other little maint.
and creature comfort
> mods. I'm running a 912UL and IVO prop. Down for its operating inspection and
am replacing my panel.
> Still a student pilot. Built a PPC back in about 1982, flew it many years and
switched to a weight shift trike.
> Then moved on the a Fisher 202 Koala. Still have the trike,but will be selling
it soon. Learned to fly them all
> on my own until I got the KF. Flying isn't a problem but learning all the regs,
airspace, etc. has proven to be a
> large job for an old guy. That and finding an instructor willing to teach in
an experimental taildragger.
> Had one who didn't want top fly behind a Rotax, one ground looped it and backed
out, one died in a trike
> accident in AR., 2 that said they would but never could make the time. One flew
with me for a couple hrs.
> but is too far away (200 miles) and the one that gave me ALMOST enough hrs. moved
to MS before we got done.
> So I'm once again looking for an instructor. And believe me, ND doesnt have a
whole lot of them. But by hook
> of crook I'll get there.
> I do have a trailer and would take it out of state if I could find someone willing
to try to get me done in a few days.
> Still need my Xcountries and a sign off for the practical.
> Cal Anderson
> N514RC
> Enderlin ND
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kitfox-List Digest Server
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:04 AM
> To: Kitfox-List Digest List
> Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/26/17
>
>
>
>
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Cal
I appreciate your situation. Years ago a local airport would pull together a number
of local instructors for a day and pilots could schedule their flight reviews.
This was a big event and a number pilots participated. One year a number
of instructors were willing to go up with me in my Kitfox and a few years later
there were no takers.
Back to your issue. If you are close to finishing your training it might be easer
to find a local school with a tail dragged and just go with them and get
it done. You might also want to contact Skystar to see if they can help.
Good luck.
Mike
1996 Kitfox IV
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Cal Anderson <calvin@mlgc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Fairly new member here (only a couple years, and never posted before). I bought
my KitFox lll
> about three years ago. Did a complete paint job and lots of other little maint.
and creature comfort
> mods. I'm running a 912UL and IVO prop. Down for its operating inspection and
am replacing my panel.
> Still a student pilot. Built a PPC back in about 1982, flew it many years and
switched to a weight shift trike.
> Then moved on the a Fisher 202 Koala. Still have the trike,but will be selling
it soon. Learned to fly them all
> on my own until I got the KF. Flying isn't a problem but learning all the regs,
airspace, etc. has proven to be a
> large job for an old guy. That and finding an instructor willing to teach in
an experimental taildragger.
> Had one who didn't want top fly behind a Rotax, one ground looped it and backed
out, one died in a trike
> accident in AR., 2 that said they would but never could make the time. One flew
with me for a couple hrs.
> but is too far away (200 miles) and the one that gave me ALMOST enough hrs. moved
to MS before we got done.
> So I'm once again looking for an instructor. And believe me, ND doesnt have a
whole lot of them. But by hook
> of crook I'll get there.
> I do have a trailer and would take it out of state if I could find someone willing
to try to get me done in a few days.
> Still need my Xcountries and a sign off for the practical.
> Cal Anderson
> N514RC
> Enderlin ND
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kitfox-List Digest Server
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:04 AM
> To: Kitfox-List Digest List
> Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/26/17
>
>
>
>
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Thanks for the encouragement.
Just turned 65 in Feb.
I've had my share of 2 strokes also. Actually used 3 different
snowmobile engines on my PPC. 2 Yamahas and 1 Kawasaki.
And a 447 Rotax in my trike and old Koala. Do like the 912 but
its still a pretty high rpm engine. My friends say it sounds like a
4 wheeler flying by.
Cal Anderson
N514RC
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