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     1. 02:38 PM - Refinishing flaperons? (WurlyBird)
     2. 03:07 PM - Re: Refinishing flaperons? (WurlyBird)
     3. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Refinishing flaperons? (Michael Gibbs)
     4. 03:31 PM - Re: Refinishing flaperons? (Guy Buchanan)
     5. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Refinishing flaperons? (Patrick Reilly)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Refinishing flaperons? | 
      
      
      My Kitfox 3 has been in storage for several years and I am returning it to flying
      status. I have found several spots of surface corrosion on the flaperons. It
      apears  to be completely superficial and is completely removed very quickly
      with 600 grit. I have cleaned some areas wit( MEK to expose the surrounding nickel
      chromate primer. I am planning on proceeding with simple removal and refinish.
            I know from dealing with repainting part of the wing that it is not reasonable
      to expect to color match the original yellow so I would like to completely
      repaint them for simplicity so now I am trying to figure out how thoroughly
      I need to strip the flaperons before refinishing. 
      
      I was considering bead blasting, or maybe baking soda, and taking everything to
      aluminum and starting over. Will the thickness of aluminum used in the flaperons
      stand up to this?
      
      If I strip paint away from trouble areas with MEK can I feather in primer and then
      repaint over the primer/paint surface with decent results?
      
      Anyone else used these or  a different technique with results they can share?
      
      Thanks for any ideas.
      
      James
      
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      James
      Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
      50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
            now she lies in wait
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Refinishing flaperons? | 
      
      
      Here are a few photos. Sorry, cant resize them on iPad that I can figure out.
      
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      James
      Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
      50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
            now she lies in wait
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480229#480229
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Refinishing flaperons? | 
      
      You Doodle is a great iPad app that can do a ton of image editing tasks, inc
      luding resizing photos.
      
      Mike G.
      Phoenix, AZ
      Kitfox Series 7
      
      
      > On May 18, 2018, at 3:06 PM, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil> wrot
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      > Here are a few photos. Sorry, can=99t resize them on iPad that I can
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      > Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
      > 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
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| Subject:  | Re: Refinishing flaperons? | 
      
      
      The main thing is to not apply any significant pressure to the skin, either with
      blast or with sanding. If you do you'll distort it enough so the ribs will show
      through and they'll look ugly. I'd try chemical stripping, being careful to
      keep from getting chemical inside. I believe the ribs are foam and won't stand
      up to chemical attack. Chemical stripping depends on the kind of paint you're
      removing. Urethane will withstand any chemical attack and will have to be stripped
      by sanding or blasting. Anything else should be removable using paint
      stripper.
      
      As to feathering the primer, that shouldn't be a problem. Whether it looks OK depends
      on the covering ability of the paint you're applying. Right now I'm fixing
      my aileron and am having to repaint part of it with red urethane. Unfortunately
      this particular red doesn't cover at all, so the sub-surface must be 100%
      one color. Any variation shows through the red. Yellow urethane is probably
      low pigment as well. You'll have to test.
      
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      Guy Buchanan
      K-IV 1200 / 912Uls / Warp / 500 hours and flying again.
      Now a glider pilot too.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480231#480231
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Refinishing flaperons? | 
      
      James, Stripping the flapperons without damaging them will be tough. I
      think if it was me i'd sand lightly paint white and then go with the
      yellow. As Guy pointed out the pigments in reds and yellows is translucent
      so the white is required so you don't see through the color coat. You
      didn't say what paint you are using or what paint is currently on the
      parts. It matters.
      
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
      Rockford, IL
      
      On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > The main thing is to not apply any significant pressure to the skin,
      > either with blast or with sanding. If you do you'll distort it enough so
      > the ribs will show through and they'll look ugly. I'd try chemical
      > stripping, being careful to keep from getting chemical inside. I believe
      > the ribs are foam and won't stand up to chemical attack. Chemical stripping
      > depends on the kind of paint you're removing. Urethane will withstand any
      > chemical attack and will have to be stripped by sanding or blasting.
      > Anything else should be removable using paint stripper.
      >
      > As to feathering the primer, that shouldn't be a problem. Whether it looks
      > OK depends on the covering ability of the paint you're applying. Right now
      > I'm fixing my aileron and am having to repaint part of it with red
      > urethane. Unfortunately this particular red doesn't cover at all, so the
      > sub-surface must be 100% one color. Any variation shows through the red.
      > Yellow urethane is probably low pigment as well. You'll have to test.
      >
      > --------
      > Guy Buchanan
      > K-IV 1200 / 912Uls / Warp / 500 hours and flying again.
      > Now a glider pilot too.
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480231#480231
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
      W10 0290 Rebuild
      Rockford, IL
      
 
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