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1. 05:05 AM - Re: Panel Replacement (George Nielsen)
2. 09:10 AM - Re: Panel Replacement (Home)
3. 09:33 AM - Re: Panel Replacement (Michael Gibbs)
4. 09:37 AM - Re: Panel Replacement (Michael Gibbs)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Panel Replacement (Michael Gibbs)
6. 01:37 PM - Re: Panel Replacement (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Replacement |
Hi Mike,
I love the pictures which you sent. You really have done an excellent
job. I really appreciated the passenger warning, in which is written in
the last line "In my opinion it exceeds them". Well said!
Good luck with this project. I hope that you will fly soon.
George Nielsen
Avid Flyer project
On 09-Jun-20 5:35, Michael Gibbs wrote:
> Thanks for the kind comments, everyone.
>
> Actually, the iPad mount is home-grown. Its just a sheet of aluminum with three
edges folded over to grip the edges of the iPad. The top is open and it pivots
on a piano hinge, so I can pull the small latch up, tilt it forward, and slide
the iPad out, if needed. Theres also a small computer fan behind it that
comes on with the master switch to help keep the iPad cool.
>
>
> I used a small USB plug behind the panel for power. It provides 2.1 amps to each
of two USB sockets (only one is used). This is an iPad Air, so 2 amps is enough
to power and charge it. You have to be careful with power plugs, a lot of
plugs that are labeled 2 amps also have two plugs, and each plug only provides
1 amp, which is not enough to power the tablet. This one is rated at 4.2 amps,
so 2.1 is available for each plug.
>
> Its not a good picture, but this is the USB plug before it was mounted behind
the panel. There is a second one on the front side of the panel for pilot and
passenger use.
>
>
> Mike
>
>> On Jun 8, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kirby Cramer <kitfox@mcn.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nice job Mike! I especially like your Ipad mount. Looks factory.
>> I have a Ram Roller mount in my Kitfox that works well too.
>>
>> I have found my 2.5 amp USB charger can't keep up with the Ipad on long flights.
What are you using for power?
>> (the home Ipad charger is 5 amps I think)?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kirby Cramer Kitfox 4 N45KC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com <owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs
>> Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 4:31 PM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Panel Replacement
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I thought Id share the upgrade project I completed last weekend. My Kitfox Series
7 was in need of a panel upgrade. The new panel was built in the shop and
assembled on the living room table. A few months ago I pulled the old panel
out of the plane and started working on installing the new one.
>>
>> Original panel (2005-2019)
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Replacement |
Are you selling the whirl wind?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 8, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Michael Gibbs <michaelgibbs@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I thought Id share the upgrade project I completed last weekend. My Kitfox Series
7 was in need of a panel upgrade. The new panel was built in the shop and
assembled on the living room table. A few months ago I pulled the old panel out
of the plane and started working on installing the new one.
>
> Original panel (2005-2019)
> <image.jpg>
>
>
> New panel (in the dining room)
> <image.jpg>
>
>
> New panel (installed). I moved the engine controls down to the console while
retaining the mechanical pitch trim handle there. Its a tight squeeze underneath
but we got everything to fit.
> <IMG_3090.jpeg>
>
>
> Heres whats what. There are no autopilot servos installed at this time, but the
Dynon AP-74 has a knob that makes things like altitude/heading bugs and altimeter
settings much easier than poking buttons on the main unit.
> <image.jpg>
>
>
> She also has a new Ivo in-flight adjustable prop with constant speed controller.
The previous prop was a very nice Whirlwind but it was ground-adjustable only.
Of course, the new prop required the Rotax hollow prop shaft and she had
the solid one, so that added $$$ to the project!
> <image.jpg>
>
>
> I finished the last of the ground testing on Saturday, so I think shes ready
to return to the skies.
>
> Mike G.
> Phoenix, AZ
> Kitfox Series 7
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Replacement |
Hi Kirby,
The fan is just a generic computer fan I picked up at Fry=99s electron
ics. It seemed like a good idea. :-) It=99s very quiet (not really i
mportant in a noisy airplane!) and moves a lot of air.
I don=99t have the original packaging but it turns out I used two diff
erent devices. Both are meant to be panel-mounted but one of them is hidden b
ehind the panel.
This is the one that is available for cockpit use, it=99s from Powerwe
rx. Note that it is a 4.2A model, with 2.1A available on both ports.
There are no additional markings on the back of the unit.
The one that is behind the panel powers the panel-mounted iPad. It is a 3.1A
unit that provides 1A to one port and 2.1A on the other. The 1A port is not
used.
I hope this is helpful.
Mike
Phoenix, AZ
Kitfox Series 7
> On Jun 8, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Kirby Cramer <kitfox@mcn.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> The fan is even more impressive. My Ipad does get hot especially in the s
un..
>
> Any info on your charging source and output?
>
> Thanks again
> -Kirby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com <owner-kitfox-list-server@mat
ronics.com> On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs
> Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 8:36 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Panel Replacement
>
> Thanks for the kind comments, everyone.
>
> Actually, the iPad mount is home-grown. It=99s just a sheet of alumi
num with three edges folded over to grip the edges of the iPad. The top is o
pen and it pivots on a piano hinge, so I can pull the small latch up, tilt i
t forward, and slide the iPad out, if needed. There=99s also a small c
omputer fan behind it that comes on with the master switch to help keep the i
Pad cool.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Replacement |
Hi Dave,
Yes, but someone local snagged it the very next day. :-(
Mike
Phoenix, AZ
Kitfox Series 7
> On Jun 9, 2020, at 9:21 AM, Home <davestapa@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
> Are you selling the whirl wind?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 8, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Michael Gibbs <michaelgibbs@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I thought Id share the upgrade project I completed last weekend. My Kitfox Series
7 was in need of a panel upgrade. The new panel was built in the shop and
assembled on the living room table. A few months ago I pulled the old panel
out of the plane and started working on installing the new one.
>>
>> Original panel (2005-2019)
>> <image.jpg>
>>
>>
>> New panel (in the dining room)
>> <image.jpg>
>>
>>
>> New panel (installed). I moved the engine controls down to the console while
retaining the mechanical pitch trim handle there. Its a tight squeeze underneath
but we got everything to fit.
>> <IMG_3090.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> Heres whats what. There are no autopilot servos installed at this time, but
the Dynon AP-74 has a knob that makes things like altitude/heading bugs and altimeter
settings much easier than poking buttons on the main unit.
>> <image.jpg>
>>
>>
>> She also has a new Ivo in-flight adjustable prop with constant speed controller.
The previous prop was a very nice Whirlwind but it was ground-adjustable
only. Of course, the new prop required the Rotax hollow prop shaft and she had
the solid one, so that added $$$ to the project!
>> <image.jpg>
>>
>>
>> I finished the last of the ground testing on Saturday, so I think shes ready
to return to the skies.
>>
>> Mike G.
>> Phoenix, AZ
>> Kitfox Series 7
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Replacement |
Thanks George. I found that warning placard on-line many years ago and just h
ad to have it. Hey, Mr. FAA guy, it has all the required wording! :-)
In case any of you are interested, here are a few pictures from the build pr
ocess on the panel.
Fitting the fiberglass frame. Yup, that should work.
Hmmm...where will all this stuff fit?
Cutting out the aluminum panels. It=99s in three pieces and the two ou
ter ones each have a piano hinge along the bottom so they can fold down to m
ake it easier to work on the back side if that=99s ever necessary in t
he future. The radios and PFD in the center section make it too deep to hing
e down so it is built to slide right out the front when you remove the screw
s.
Center panel section with Dynon, radio and transponder installed. The suppor
ts needed for the back end of the longer components are all self-contained s
o the entire assembly can be removed as one unit.
Cutting out the pilot-side panel.
Looks like she=99s ready to fly!
Mike
Phoenix, AZ
Kitfox Series 7
>> On Jun 9, 2020, at 5:08 AM, George Nielsen <genie@swissmail.org> wrote:
> =EF=BB
> Hi Mike,
>
> I love the pictures which you sent. You really have done an excellent job.
I really appreciated the passenger warning, in which is written in the last
line "In my opinion it exceeds them". Well said!
>
> Good luck with this project. I hope that you will fly soon.
>
> George Nielsen
> Avid Flyer project
>
>>> On 09-Jun-20 5:35, Michael Gibbs wrote:
>> Thanks for the kind comments, everyone.
>>
>> Actually, the iPad mount is home-grown. It=99s just a sheet of alum
inum with three edges folded over to grip the edges of the iPad. The top is o
pen and it pivots on a piano hinge, so I can pull the small latch up, tilt i
t forward, and slide the iPad out, if needed. There=99s also a small c
omputer fan behind it that comes on with the master switch to help keep the i
Pad cool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I used a small USB plug behind the panel for power. It provides 2.1 amps t
o each of two USB sockets (only one is used). This is an iPad Air, so 2 amps
is enough to power and charge it. You have to be careful with power plugs, a
lot of plugs that are labeled =9C2 amps=9D also have two plugs,
and each plug only provides 1 amp, which is not enough to power the tablet.
This one is rated at 4.2 amps, so 2.1 is available for each plug.
>>
>> It=99s not a good picture, but this is the USB plug before it was m
ounted behind the panel. There is a second one on the front side of the pane
l for pilot and passenger use.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kirby Cramer <kitfox@mcn.org> wrote:
>>>
rg>
>>>
>>> Nice job Mike! I especially like your Ipad mount. Looks factory.
>>> I have a Ram Roller mount in my Kitfox that works well too.
>>>
>>> I have found my 2.5 amp USB charger can't keep up with the Ipad on long f
lights. What are you using for power?
>>> (the home Ipad charger is 5 amps I think)?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kirby Cramer Kitfox 4 N45KC
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com <owner-kitfox-list-server@m
atronics.com> On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs
>>> Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 4:31 PM
>>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Panel Replacement
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I thought I=99d share the upgrade project I completed last weekend
. My Kitfox Series 7 was in need of a panel upgrade. The new panel was built
in the shop and assembled on the living room table. A few months ago I pull
ed the old panel out of the plane and started working on installing the new o
ne.
>>>
>>> Original panel (2005-2019)
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Replacement |
Nice, Mike! I loved having the pad in my Fox. Would have been nice to
have it on the panel.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
ex - Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 600 hrs
Glider pilot, too
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