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1. 06:23 AM - Re: Original Firestar's with flutter? (owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com)
2. 07:53 AM - EGT (Dale Sellers)
3. 08:39 AM - Re: Mk3 Classic two tank selector valve(s) (Peter Volum)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Gascolators for auto fuel (Timandjan@aol.com)
5. 09:10 AM - Re: Mk3 Classic two tank selector valve(s) (H MITCHELL)
6. 09:14 AM - Re: One less Kolb (Peter Volum)
7. 10:08 AM - Re: stall (Dallas Shepherd)
8. 12:27 PM - kolb camera mount (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
9. 12:53 PM - Safety Pins (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
10. 01:11 PM - Re: fuel shutoff valve (oxygen rich)
11. 04:29 PM - Re: Gascolators for auto fuel (Richard Harris)
12. 05:02 PM - Re: Piano Hinges (Christopher Armstrong)
13. 05:27 PM - Prop length (Cavuontop@aol.com)
14. 05:57 PM - Re: Safety Pins (ZepRep251@aol.com)
15. 06:02 PM - Re: EGT (ZepRep251@aol.com)
16. 06:12 PM - Re: Gascolators for auto fuel (Bill Futrell)
17. 06:15 PM - Re: Piano Hinges (John Williamson)
18. 06:35 PM - Re: Safety Pins (ul15rhb@juno.com)
19. 06:49 PM - Re: EGT (Eugene Zimmerman)
20. 07:04 PM - Re: Gascolators for auto fuel (Gary robert voigt)
21. 07:14 PM - Re: Gascolators for auto fuel (Paul Petty)
22. 07:55 PM - Re: Piano Hinges (woody)
23. 08:11 PM - Re: One less Kolb (Richard Tonry)
24. 08:34 PM - spark plug wire spreader thingies ()
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| Subject: | Re: Original Firestar's with flutter? |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com
Dwight Kottke, 1997 Firestar, 83 hours flight time ( full-span ailerons,
no counter balance) with no flutter.
ul15rhb@juno.com
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Subject: Kolb-List: Original Firestar's with flutter?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
Group,
In all the years of flying the Original Firestar, this topic of flutter
has got my attention. I would like to take a poll of all Original
Firestar's with full-span ailerons, that may have seen a flutter problem
at one time. John Hauck is one of them. Are there any others out there?
Thanks,
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar
16 years flying it
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsellers@sgtcollege.org>
I have a question of some of you still running a Cuyuna. This is my first
experience with a two stroke so be kind. My EGT is hitting 1200 at about
5800. What should I do.
Dale Sellers
Georgia Ultra Star.
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| Subject: | Mk3 Classic two tank selector valve(s) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Duane, If both tanks are mounted level with each other, and if there are
no obstacles before the "T" connector (squeeze bulbs, etc...) the fuel
levels will always self-equalize EVEN if you are picking up fuel a bit
faster from one side than the other.
The fuel in the tanks doesn't know the difference whether you are
sucking the fuel out of the bottom or the top. If both suctions are
connected to each other by means of a "T" either above or below the
tanks, the high side will always "siphon" into the low side until an
equilibrium is reached.
It is no different than if you put two buckets of water next to each
other, one full and one empty and connect them with a hose over the top.
Once the hose is primed, the high bucket will empty into the lower one
until they are both at exactly the same level. The speed at which they
equalize is limited only by the diameter of the connecting hose.
This sometimes becomes apparent when filling the fuel tanks. If you
fill one first until it is brim full, then start filling the second one,
by the time the second one is full, the first will have gone down a bit.
This is because the higher level in the first tank has forced some fuel
"up and over" into the emptier one.
If you add a fuel selector, you will disturb the natural balance, add
one more human task to be performed, and invite Murphy's law into the
equation.
"KISS"
Without a selector when you run out of fuel it will mean that both tanks
are equally dry.
Peter Volum
----- Original Message -----
From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3 Classic two tank selector valve(s)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> My Mk3/912 has the standard two 5 Gal tank set up. While pondering the
possibilities of fuel starvation with the plumbing now installed it now
looks like a fuel selector valve is mandatory.
> The current system has a suction line from each tank going up to a Tee
located between the tops of the tanks. With this arrangement the first
tank
to run out of gas will allow the fuel line to suck air and down we go.
Ideally both tanks would be emptied at the same rate and I would not
ever
have one tank empty before the other but this assumption is not positive
enough for a man-rated system in my opinion.
> Location of a RIGHT-LEFT-OFF fuel selector valve will require some
planning to avoid the John Denver (and others I'm sure) hazard. Reaching
the
tank area over my shoulder, while strapped in, and switching a valve
that I
can't see sounds risky.
> This forces me to find a location where I can see the valve position
and
re-route the fuel lines to the new location. The system cost will be in
longer fuel lines and several more potential leak points but the benefit
will be a more reliable fuel system that is easy to operate.
> I am sure I am not the first one to faced this problem and would like
to
see what some others have done.
>
> Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL
>
>
=
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolators for auto fuel |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
I used a old Gascolator from a Cessna 140 a friend had, cleaned it up and
made new rubber gaskets. It' s almost identical to the Aircraft Spruce one
and I have friends that have used the one offered at aircraft spruce and they
are using auto gas, works fine. I can't imagine what would be different
execpt for maybe the gaskets being attacked by the gasoline. (anybody out
there know of any differnece in auto gas and 100LL) in regards to this) it
might be that since auto gas can be cut with alcohol, they are worried about
the alcohol destroying the seals etc.
My 1 cents worth.
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3 Classic two tank selector valve(s) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Thanks for the constructive responses guys. This list really works.
The overwhelming consensus says use the original Kolb configuration. Valid test
results (experience) always win out over calculations, estimates or worries.
I'll still keep my eye on those tanks at least during flight testing.
I was not looking forward to ripping the existing system out to installing something
new.
Now I can get back to installing my chute, radio, fixed wing gap section etc...
Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, FireFly SN 007, 447, Ivo 128.5 Hrs, Mk3 /912
in shop.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Swiderski
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3 Classic two tank selector valve(s)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Duane,
I have 2 five gallon tanks on my SlingShot also. Mine are front & aft.
I wanted to empty my aft tank 1st because of cg issue. I wanted to get
every drop from the 1st tank drained, and I didn't want to top off 2 tanks
if I didn't have to. For these 3 reasons, I went with a different system
than the parallel stock feed. As per my previous post, I didn't want to
have a shut off valve. My method is simple & basically foolproof. I plumb
the 2 tanks in series by controling the venting. The fuel pump sucks from a
pickup tube (accessed thru top of tank via a sealed rubber grommet) located
in the rear of the front tank. This front tank is vented thru another
sealed, top mounted, grommet which in turn is plumbed to the pickup tube in
the rear tank (also using same pickup tube arrangement as in front tank.)
The rear tank is then vented to atmosphere via a top mounted grommert which
is plumbed to outside of plane. As fuel is sucked from the front tank, it
is immediately replaced by fuel from the rear tank (because the front tank's
vent is hooked to the rear tank's pickup.) This process continues untill
every drop of available fuel is sucked out of rear tank. At that point, the
fuel level of the front tank begins to drop. this has the added benifit of
letting you know when exactly half of your fuel is spent. The stock tanks
are rigid enough so they do not collapse when under suction. The worst case
scenario in this setup is that if you get a leak in the vent between the
front tank and the rear tank pickup, you will not draw fuel from the rear
tank. This is not a major issue because you are always watching the
front/primary tank anyway. It has never caused me a problem & I like it so
much that I'd use it even if my tanks were located side by side.
Richard Swiderski
Ocala, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3 Classic two tank selector valve(s)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> My Mk3/912 has the standard two 5 Gal tank set up. While pondering the
possibilities of fuel starvation with the plumbing now installed it now
looks like a fuel selector valve is mandatory.
> The current system has a suction line from each tank going up to a Tee
located between the tops of the tanks. With this arrangement the first tank
to run out of gas will allow the fuel line to suck air and down we go.
Ideally both tanks would be emptied at the same rate and I would not ever
have one tank empty before the other but this assumption is not positive
enough for a man-rated system in my opinion.
> Location of a RIGHT-LEFT-OFF fuel selector valve will require some
planning to avoid the John Denver (and others I'm sure) hazard. Reaching the
tank area over my shoulder, while strapped in, and switching a valve that I
can't see sounds risky.
> This forces me to find a location where I can see the valve position and
re-route the fuel lines to the new location. The system cost will be in
longer fuel lines and several more potential leak points but the benefit
will be a more reliable fuel system that is easy to operate.
> I am sure I am not the first one to faced this problem and would like to
see what some others have done.
>
> Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Dallas:
Let me join the rest in saying that I'm glad you and your grandson are
still with us and able to tell the tale - albeit with some pain.
When you get the chance, I would be interested in knowing how steep your
take-off was when you lost power that you were unable to get the nose
down before she stalled. I enjoy making steep climbouts, (40MPH at full
throttle with 912), but maybe that's cutting it a bit close (comments
John H?). Is a more airspeed and less angle called for?
Before I rebuilt my Mk. III, the fuel tanks were vented through holes in
the filler caps. At the time, I had read in a post on the list of
somebody else's concern about getting bathed in fuel in the event of a
nose-over. He had vented his tanks with hoses out the top and down to
the bottom - below the base level of the tanks. I modified mine the
same way.
Were you bathed in fuel as a result of top venting? Or did the tanks
rupture?
Another fuel set-up in the old Kolb that I didn't like was the feed from
the bottom of the tank with only a rubber grommet to stop leaking. I
was concerned that all it would take to have a major leak would be for
something to bump the grommet. At Sun 'N Fun I saw that the factory Mk
III Xtra avoided holes on the underside of the tanks by draining from
the top through a metal pick-up tubes that reached to about 1/2" from
the bottom, so I immediately ordered a set of those tubes and a new set
of tanks.
Best of luck for a speedy recovery.
Peter V
> At 3 PM today I crashed my Kolb on take off.
> Dallas Shepherd=0D
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dallas Shepherd" <cen23954@centurytel.net>
=0D
=0D
-------Original Message-------=0D
=0D
From: Dallas Shepherd=0D
Subject: stall=0D
Peter=0D
I wasn't on a steep climb out at the time. Air speed was about 55 to 60 mph
but we were only about 50 feet over these tall trees and still trying to
climb when the engine quit. No room to pull out of the stall with that
airspeed and that amount of room we had above the trees. The rpm's had
dropped to 2600 in seconds and the stall came fast. Once I had to turn my
engine off when it was going wide open after the throttle cable had come
loose in order to be slow for a deadstick landing and I thought that Kolb
had stopped in midair with all that drag. When I take off to the north I
have to make a left hand turn to avoid going over the high school and that
takes me over the trees. I usually practice stalls at 1000 feet instead of
50. =0D
Dallas=0D
40 is too close Peter
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| Subject: | kolb camera mount |
12/02/2002 03:27:13 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
Kip recently referred to my modified version of his underwing camera mount
in response to a List inquiry. Pictures of my version can be found on
George Alexanders' web page: http://gtalexander.home.att.net. Its simple
and works real well for me. You need a camera with an infra-red remote
control to release the shutter. I use a Canon G-1 digital that I got off
of Ebay, but there are others as well.
regards to all
Erich Weaver
erich_weaver@urscorp.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
List Friends -
I'm trying to find replacement safety pins for my Kolb, but have discovered
that the ones I need are no longer manufactured. I'm referring to the
safety pins that keep the clevis pins in place. (Clevis pins for wing strut
ends, wing spars and flap/aileron pushrod ends.)
My 1996 Mark-3 kit came with two size pins: Inch-and-a-half, and two-inches
long. The 1.5 inch pins are known as AN416-1 "Cowling Safety Pins" in all
the catalogs, and those are available anywhere. What I cannot find are the
2-inch long pins. New Kolb tells me they have not supplied the 2-inch
safety pins in their kits since they took over. (So, naturally, they do not
have any in stock.)
Does anybody know of a source for these, or have about a half-dozen extras
you'd like to sell? Since I fold/unflold my airplane each time I fly, the
larger safety pins are a lot easier on the fingers than the small ones, and
that's why I'd rather have them.
Thanks for any help ...
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: fuel shutoff valve |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "oxygen rich" <oxygenrich@hotmail.com>
Hello Ralph and Kolbers,
Have been following the list learning and enjoying humor since June when I
began training. Thanks to All.
I had bought a Firestar with a fuel shut off valve - very nice fuel system.
Flew for several hours with no problem. After a jet change while adjusting
idle I had been turning engine off then restarting it several times. Pulling
the starter rope I had unknowingly bumped the 3/4 closed. The engine idled
fine but on climb out at about 100 feet the engine quit. There was no time
to think I just pointed her at the ground did a 160 degree turn and put the
bird back in the feild. My heat was pounding big time and I was
shaking.........scary!! Not a perfect landing but no damage to the Firestar
or me. Almost cost me big time. I immediately wired the valve open then
later removed it from main fuel line.
I feel very fortunate every thing came together and worked out.
I Had soloed a few weeks prior after month of intense training. During
instruction I had been practicing engine out procedure over and over and
over again.
I love flying my Firestar!! Been able to log 83 hours, learning more on
every flight. Flying here in the mountains is interesting and challenging.
Bought a KXP 503. Extra power for mountain flying is nice. Fly around
highest point in WV, Spruce Knob at 4868'. Hang gliders have a launce site
and land in the valley. I really like surfing the winds formed by the
ridgeline on those low wind days. Quite beautiful flying. Try to always
stay within glide to valley fields
Sorry to get so windy....
Happy Holidays to all.
Matt in mountains of West Virginia
KXP 503 - rocket ship!
......................................................
>From: ul15rhb@juno.com
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: fuel shutoff valve
>Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:51:55 -0600
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
>
>Guys,
>
>I don't know how many of you have installed a fuel shutoff valve on your
>aircraft, but I decided not to have one. The reason is that I have heard
>too many stories about pilots forgetting to turn the valve on before
>takeoff. This story yesterday sounds typical of that situation, although
>I'm not accusing Dallas Shepherd of this at all. I don't even know that
>he has a fuel valve to switch.
>
>Have any of you guys got into the air and realized your fuel valve was
>off?
>
>Curious .....
>
>Ralph
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolators for auto fuel |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
Richard, sounds like a great idea, and cheap too. I think I got the
picture, but why not post a pic on your web-sight?
That part about being retired, I know better, because my Father-in-law is
a supposedly retired preacher, so I know you guys never really retire.
Folks won't let you.
Thanks for the info on the home made gascolator..
Richard Harris
MK3 N912RH
Lewisville, Arkansas
: Re: Kolb-List: Gascolators for auto fuel
Being retired and a notable cheapskate & scrounge, I discovered that a
> gascolator is very cheap and easy to make. The idea behind a gascolator is
> simple: water sinks and gas sits on top of it. So I went down to Autozone
> and here was this wall covered with about 50 different kinds of white
nylon
> automotive fuel filters, right out in the open so you could examine them.
I
> got one with the inlet and outlet on the same level, and the body or bowl
> of the filter about as big as a coffee cup, and below the level of the
> inlets and outlets, cost under $3.
>
> Drilled a hole in the bottom of the bowl to fit a rubber fuel tank
grommet,
> (CPS catalog #7030, $.95) then stuck the barbed end of an elbow tank
> fitting (CPS catalog #7032, $2.95) through the grommet. Hooked a drain
line
> to the fitting and ran it to an external low point on the system and
capped
> it off with a valve. (Already had that, actually had all the hardware
> stuff, so I was primed...)
>
> The fuel (water?) would come in through the inlet and go into the bowl
part
> first, and then through the filtering matrix and then up and out through
> the other port. The water would lay in the bottom, and it would probably
> hold nearly a 1/2 pint of water before it would get up to the outlet.
>
> Less than $10 in the whole rig, and it weighed just a few ounces. The guts
> inside the one I fooled with were not paper, but if they were, I would
> probably have grubbed any paper gasket material out, because I have heard
> that wet filter paper does not pass premix, and my old 532 uses premix.
But
> if you are using oil injection, and straight gasoline is going into the
> filter, it would probably work OK. (Test it and make sure!) Once you make
> the first one, it becomes very easy, I actually bought two filters, one to
> practice on, and the second one to get right.
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net>
BTW..Does anyone have any expierience with the extruded or cast body piano
hinges...instead of the formed ones like Kolb supplies. I know they are
several times more costly, but look alot better quality. I am considering
these instead of the supplied hinges.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
if you really want to spend some extra money on overkill components there is
also a realy neat carbon fiber hinge available called carbinge
http://www.olympus.net/personal/2thman/why_carbinge.htm
Topher
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Cavuontop@aol.com
Gentlemen:
Can a 72" prop be used on a Mark III Classic with a 912 engine?
Mark R. Sellers
Kolb Twinstar Mark III, N496BM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
Aircraft Spruce has them
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
Dale if you are using a Bing carb,raise the needle one groove. that usually
gets me 40 deg decrease in egt
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolators for auto fuel |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Futrell" <Bill-Jo@prodigy.net>
I posted a couple days ago that I was using the gascolator from Aircraft
Spruce and have flow it all summer with no problem. I called A/S today and
they said that the manufacture said that auto fuel will dissolve the gasket.
It is something that I have to look at come spring before I fly again. They
were going to call me back and give me the phone number of the manufacture
but I did not hear anything yet. If that is all there is to it then I will
try to get a gasket that is compatible with auto fuel. But I have not had
any leak yet but I will pull the bowl of in the spring and inspect the
gasket. I will pass on any inf. that I get.
Bill Futrell
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gascolators for auto fuel
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
>
> I used a old Gascolator from a Cessna 140 a friend had, cleaned it up and
> made new rubber gaskets. It' s almost identical to the Aircraft Spruce one
> and I have friends that have used the one offered at aircraft spruce and
they
> are using auto gas, works fine. I can't imagine what would be different
> execpt for maybe the gaskets being attacked by the gasoline. (anybody out
> there know of any differnece in auto gas and 100LL) in regards to this) it
> might be that since auto gas can be cut with alcohol, they are worried
about
> the alcohol destroying the seals etc.
>
> My 1 cents worth.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piano Hinges |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
I substituted the extruded hinges for all the hinges on my Kolbra.
I did mine only for the piece of mind factor that the extruded hinges gave
me over the formed hinges.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
N49KK, Kolb Kolbra, Jabiru 2200, 146 hours
http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
Dennis,
I use safety rings that are stainless rings used for sailboating. They
have an "easy-start" in the middle that makes them great for taking on
and off. I've used them for 16 years without a problem. One is used on
the tail-bracing at the bottom of the lower fin and I have landed in tall
grass, sand, and snow without a hint of coming off. I would not trust
safety clips as they have been known to come loose or snagged. There was
a post a few years back where a clip came off a Mark III aileron. Use the
rings for safety.
Ralph
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:52:13 -0000 Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> List Friends -
>
> I'm trying to find replacement safety pins for my Kolb, but have
> discovered
> that the ones I need are no longer manufactured. I'm referring to
> the
> safety pins that keep the clevis pins in place. (Clevis pins for
> wing strut
> ends, wing spars and flap/aileron pushrod ends.)
>
> My 1996 Mark-3 kit came with two size pins: Inch-and-a-half, and
> two-inches
> long. The 1.5 inch pins are known as AN416-1 "Cowling Safety Pins"
> in all
> the catalogs, and those are available anywhere. What I cannot find
> are the
> 2-inch long pins. New Kolb tells me they have not supplied the
> 2-inch
> safety pins in their kits since they took over. (So, naturally,
> they do not
> have any in stock.)
>
> Does anybody know of a source for these, or have about a half-dozen
> extras
> you'd like to sell? Since I fold/unflold my airplane each time I
> fly, the
> larger safety pins are a lot easier on the fingers than the small
> ones, and
> that's why I'd rather have them.
>
> Thanks for any help ...
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
>
> _->
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
ZepRep251@aol.com wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
>
> Dale if you are using a Bing carb,raise the needle one groove. that usually
> gets me 40 deg decrease in egt
>
Do the same on the micuni carb = clip in the next lower grove
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolators for auto fuel |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Bill, just a thought, if i were you i would get that gasket out of there
asap and not take the chance of giving any residue to build up at all, someone
has warned you about it and i would be proactive to take care of what might be
a
potential problem. just want to see you flying a loooooong time.
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
Bill Futrell wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Futrell" <Bill-Jo@prodigy.net>
>
> I posted a couple days ago that I was using the gascolator from Aircraft
> Spruce and have flow it all summer with no problem. I called A/S today and
> they said that the manufacture said that auto fuel will dissolve the gasket.
> It is something that I have to look at come spring before I fly again. They
> were going to call me back and give me the phone number of the manufacture
> but I did not hear anything yet. If that is all there is to it then I will
> try to get a gasket that is compatible with auto fuel. But I have not had
> any leak yet but I will pull the bowl of in the spring and inspect the
> gasket. I will pass on any inf. that I get.
> Bill Futrell
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gascolators for auto fuel
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
> >
> > I used a old Gascolator from a Cessna 140 a friend had, cleaned it up and
> > made new rubber gaskets. It' s almost identical to the Aircraft Spruce one
> > and I have friends that have used the one offered at aircraft spruce and
> they
> > are using auto gas, works fine. I can't imagine what would be different
> > execpt for maybe the gaskets being attacked by the gasoline. (anybody out
> > there know of any differnece in auto gas and 100LL) in regards to this) it
> > might be that since auto gas can be cut with alcohol, they are worried
> about
> > the alcohol destroying the seals etc.
> >
> > My 1 cents worth.
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolators for auto fuel |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
For what it's worth, at the last EAA meeting, one member spoke on an event
that happened to him in a Cessna 150. He and others had experienced a power
loss in flight that grounded the aircraft twice and the end result was that
the cork gasket in the gascolator had dissolved and particles had found
their way to the carb and stopped up jetting. The aircraft had a STC for
auto fuel and had been running that fuel as of recent.
2 cents worth here
pp..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Futrell" <Bill-Jo@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gascolators for auto fuel
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Futrell" <Bill-Jo@prodigy.net>
>
> I posted a couple days ago that I was using the gascolator from
Aircraft
> Spruce and have flow it all summer with no problem. I called A/S today and
> they said that the manufacture said that auto fuel will dissolve the
gasket.
> It is something that I have to look at come spring before I fly again.
They
> were going to call me back and give me the phone number of the manufacture
> but I did not hear anything yet. If that is all there is to it then I will
> try to get a gasket that is compatible with auto fuel. But I have not had
> any leak yet but I will pull the bowl of in the spring and inspect the
> gasket. I will pass on any inf. that I get.
> Bill Futrell
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gascolators for auto fuel
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
> >
> > I used a old Gascolator from a Cessna 140 a friend had, cleaned it up
and
> > made new rubber gaskets. It' s almost identical to the Aircraft Spruce
one
> > and I have friends that have used the one offered at aircraft spruce and
> they
> > are using auto gas, works fine. I can't imagine what would be different
> > execpt for maybe the gaskets being attacked by the gasoline. (anybody
out
> > there know of any differnece in auto gas and 100LL) in regards to this)
it
> > might be that since auto gas can be cut with alcohol, they are worried
> about
> > the alcohol destroying the seals etc.
> >
> > My 1 cents worth.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piano Hinges |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
At 08:16 PM 12/2/02 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
>
>I substituted the extruded hinges for all the hinges on my Kolbra.
>
>I did mine only for the piece of mind factor that the extruded hinges gave
>me over the formed hinges.
In all the Kolbs flying have you heard of any that had failed hinges?
What frightened you away from the formed hinges? I have a bad habit of it
aint broke dont fix it. Mechanically anyway. Artist modifications and
aerodynamic improvements are fair game for my inquisitive mind. If you can
give specifics of hinge failures I would quickly change mine over.
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| Subject: | Re: One less Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Tonry" <rtonry@hotmail.com>
Holy Cow! Sorry to hear about your Kolb. I'm glad you and your grandson are
OK. My buddy and I just got his Jabiru installed on his. Thanks for all the
help. I guess it came as a real shock since those engines are suppose to be
so reliable. We don't have a drain on the bottom of our tank. Water in the
gas is something we can prevent. I think we will be adding one. Also, we
will be changing the vents. Currently the vents are in the caps. We need to
change them to vent overboard.
I guess its important to get as much info from these mishaps as we can, to
increase our chances of survival incase of another mishap.
Really glad you are OK. Hope you can get things back together and back in
the air.
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dallas Shepherd" <cen23954@centurytel.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: One less Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dallas Shepherd"
<cen23954@centurytel.net>
>
> At 3 PM today I crashed my Kolb on take off. I suspect=0D
> carburetor ice. I had just refueled the two 5 gallon tanks=0D
> from my 30 gallon carrier which I had just filled from the=0D
> station two days ago. Temp, 50 degrees and sunny. I was=0D
> about 100 feet in the air when i saw my rpm's decreasing from 3200 to 2600
> and the engine quit. I was still climbing and the stall came up fast and
> just as I reached for my chute handle we hit the trees and came straight
> down through them. Limbs slowed the fall but chewed up =0D
> wings and we hit the ground hard in an over center position. The lexan
didn
> t break, but I smashed my face into it as the aluminum windshield frame
> collapsed on my side. The cage deformed, but held. Had my 12 year old
> grandson with me and he got his harness unbuckled and got out his side. I
> was hanging not quite upside down with my face against the lexan and had
> trouble getting unbuckled with all my weight hanging against the belt. I
> finally got it and got out the passenger side. Gas was coming in from the
> vent holes of the tanks and I couldn't find the master switch. It had
> broken off the end of the=0D
> dash which had come completely loose. I located it and turned the switch
> off. No fire. From the engine back it looks all right. Will know more
> after my old body heals a bit and I can pull it out of the woods. One of
> the wings is caught between two trees so the tail is up in the air over
> center.=0D
> This is a rural area, but within minutes of the crash I had dozens of
> people out in that woods, plus the sheriff and the state patrol, fire
truck,
> ambulance, first aid people, all my neighbors, my kids who were visiting,
> and some people didn't know. Had to talk to two FAA people and they told
me
> finally that they would not be coming to investigate and I could move the
> plane. One of the 911 people said her birthday was this coming saturday,
I
> said, so was mind. I'll be 70 how old are you. A good looking gal of 36
she
> admitted.=0D
> So what to do next after salvage. I only had liability insurance on
it.
> The engine did not sputter at all, just lost the rpm's and quit. I'll
haul
> it out of there and see=0D
> what's left.=0D
> Dallas Shepherd=0D
> Norfork, Arkansas=0D
> Kolb Mark 3/ 2200 jabiru
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| Subject: | spark plug wire spreader thingies |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Kolbers,
I have been checking the local autoparts for the little clips that keep your spark
plug wires spaced evenly apart. Nobody seems to have em. I need a couple
two wire ones and a handfull of three wire ones. Would also like to have a
few of the triples with bolt holes for attaching to the airframe.
Anybody know where I can find these things?
Denny Rowe
Building Mk-3
690L-70
Leechburg, PA
Getting close, real close.
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