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1. 12:19 AM - Re: Gascolators---material compatibility (jerb)
2. 02:38 AM - Re: Skydat (TAILDRAGGER503@aol.com)
3. 02:38 AM - Re: Skydat (TAILDRAGGER503@aol.com)
4. 02:45 AM - Skydat vs ESI vs Stratomaster Series (TAILDRAGGER503@aol.com)
5. 05:55 AM - Re: new generation engine (Ted Cowan)
6. 07:13 AM - Re: Skydat (J.D. Stewart)
7. 07:21 AM - UP, right? (Mike Pierzina)
8. 07:41 AM - Re: UP, right? (Beauford Tuton)
9. 11:14 AM - LAFA (Peter Volum)
10. 02:09 PM - Re: Fuel Pumps (Paul Petty)
11. 04:11 PM - Re: Skydat (Vincehallam@aol.com)
12. 04:43 PM - Fuel tank Fittings (Dave Stroberg)
13. 04:46 PM - Re: Skydat/EIS Red Light (bob n)
14. 05:58 PM - Re: Skydat/EIS Red Light (George Alexander)
15. 06:04 PM - Re: Fuel tank Fittings (Larry Bourne)
16. 06:05 PM - Re: Metal Resourse ? (Richard Swiderski)
17. 06:25 PM - Re: Conversion Program (Richard Swiderski)
18. 06:33 PM - Re: Fuel tank Fittings (Kevin Jones)
19. 06:58 PM - Re: Skydat/EIS Red Light (bob n)
20. 06:59 PM - Re: Conversion Program (gtalexander@att.net)
21. 07:09 PM - Re: Conversion Program (Richard Harris)
22. 07:09 PM - Re: Metal Resourse ? (Richard Pike)
23. 07:13 PM - Re: Metal Resourse ? (Bob)
24. 07:35 PM - Re: Conversion Program (Richard Swiderski)
25. 08:38 PM - Re: Metal Resourse ? (jerb)
26. 09:17 PM - Re: Fuel tank Fittings (jerb)
27. 10:24 PM - Re: Fuel tank Fittings (Larry Bourne)
28. 10:25 PM - Re: spark plug wire spreader thingies (Larry Bourne)
29. 10:50 PM - Re: safety pins (GeoR38@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolators---material compatibility |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
We used auto fuel in our GA plane. When winter came where it wasn't being
flow much we went back to aviation fuel (100LL). Found that the auto fuel
had swelled many seals and then they shrank after using the av gas for a
while. Had to replace gascolator, fuel caps, fuel shut off valve, and carb
gaskets. $'(
jerb
At 09:14 PM 12/4/02 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Futrell" <Bill-Jo@prodigy.net>
>
> Kolb Flyers
> I talked to ACS manufacturing today. They are the manufacture of the
>gascolator that Aircraft Spruce sells.The gasket that they use is for
>aviation fuel only. They said that auto fuel will not dissolve their gasket
>but cause it to swell. I suggested that they start using a material that
>would be good for both ,aviation and auto fuel.I was told that my suggestion
>would be considered.
> I think in the spring I will remove their gasket and cut one from a
>material that is compatible with out fuel. The one that came with has not
>leaked at all and it has fuel in it for over a year.
> I will check out this place S Green is talking about. You could also
>go to automotive supply and get material. I still like the gascolator
>because it is strong ,has a mounting bracket, and a drain cock on the bottom
>to drain some fuel when you do your pre-flight.
> Bill Futrell
> Do Not Archive----- Original Message -----
>From: <SGreenpg@aol.com>
>To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Gascolators---material compatibility
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com
> >
> > Kolbers,
> > Below is a link to an excellent compatibility chart for different rubbers.
>I
> > would suspect that the gasket material in a gascolator that is labeled
>"for
> > avgas only" is viton which has an excellent compatibility with gasoline
>but
> > marginal for ethanol. It looks like buna-n would be a good selection for
> > auto fuel.
> >
> > Steven Green
> > N58SG
> >
> >
> > <A HREF="http://www.marcorubber.com/compatibility.htm">Click here: O-Ring
>Compatibility Guide
> >
> > http://www.marcorubber.com/compatibility.htm
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Skydat vs ESI vs Stratomaster Series |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: TAILDRAGGER503@aol.com
Has anyone used any of the Stratomaster series. Do they stand up to the ESI
or Skydat ?
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: new generation engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ted Cowan" <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
Just for info and amusement. Check out the new concept motor from the smart
guy. Building the special FAR 103 helo. Go to: http://aerotwinmotors.com/
. Received email stating be ready for sale next year at about $6500.
Projects 80 lbs complete, 65 hp and 65 hundred bucks. cant wait to see how
this works. Just thought some might like to know. BTW, the airscooter is
at: www.airscooter.com
ted
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart@inebraska.com>
If anyone is thinking of getting an EIS, I'm a dealer for them, and can
get
you a good price. A few from this list have done so already in the past.
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports
http://www.ultrafunairsports.com
Challenger Owners E-mail list and Website Administrator
http://challenger.inebraska.com
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
>
>
> Hi Gang,
> I think the EIS is a great instrument. It seems to be very durable even
> though I've only used it for 130 or so hours. The red warning light can be
> an engine saver for folks less experienced with 2 strokes. Price is very
> reasonable also. The customer service is close to Jim and Dondi
> Miller IMHO.
>
> "do not archive"
>
> Later,
> John Cooley
> Firestar II
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris"
> <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
> >
> > Not me Paul, my gadget is a EIS, works great, and customer service that
> you
> > have never experienced before... Talk to Greg !!
> >
> > company is Grand Rapids Technology
> >
> >
> > Richard Harris
> > MK3 N912RH
> > Lewisville, Arkansas
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Skydat
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> > >
> > > Hey Guys,
> > > Have any of you,are do any of you use this gaget?
> > > http://www.sportflyingshop.com/Instr/Skydat_GX1/skydat_gx1.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
I searched alot of pictures, but I can't get a view of the gearbox..... The Output
Shaft goes UP, Right? FSII, 503 w/2.58:1, 66" 3 blade IVO....
Gotta Fly...
Mike
DO NOT ARCHIVE
---
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Mike:
Affirmative... it goes up..
Good luck...
Beauford
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: UP, right?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> I searched alot of pictures, but I can't get a view of the gearbox.....
The Output Shaft goes UP, Right? FSII, 503 w/2.58:1, 66" 3 blade
IVO....
>
> Gotta Fly...
>
Mike
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> ---
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap
> and build your wings on the way down...
> Gotta Fly...
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
I've just finished putting together a web site for our ultralight club.
If any of you are in South Florida and interested in joining us on a
fly-out, you would be warmly welcomed. We are also always on the
lookout for fly-out destinations, so if your club is within two or three
hundred miles of Miami, maybe we can plan on something together.
5 of our members fly Kolbs, so you could say that we are quite a
"respectable" club.
I apologize in advance for glitches. This is my first web writing
effort, so I'm sure there are still lots of bugs in the system.
The address is: www.lafa.com <http://www.lafa.com/>
Peter Volum
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Got the P5000 in today and it weighs the same 615 grams. A dandy looking
unit though. Let me know if you want some photos.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pumps
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
<swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
> Paul,
>
> WOW! You sure did some work. Thank you. I am building a 3 cylinder,
4
> stroke, turbo charged, Suzuki based engine. Its a hybrid of an 87 Chevy
> Sprint, a Geo Metro & Canadian Firefly. It's port injection uses a
> regulated fuel supply with a return fuel line. The stock fuel pump is
tank
> mounted & I thus my search for another pump, plus I wanted redundancy.
> Maybe one pump is reasonable enough, it would be simpler & lighter. I
> assumed I'd need a check valve on both pumps in case either one failed,
but
> I haven't yet researched a valve so your PN is a big help. I've had this
> project on the shelf for the last year due to health problem & am just now
> starting up agian. My memoy is a liitle fussy about the fuel sysrtem
> control of thr fuel pump. As I recall, the system shuts them on & off as
> fuel is required. I need to get back to the schmatic & reread as to wether
> it shuts the pumps off as they are neded, or leave them recirculating all
> the time
> I got an inertia shut off switch, but again, I'm afraid to install it
as
> a hard landing or rough thermal might de-actvate them. I got lots of
> decisions to make yet..
> I checked those John Deere priced in the next town & they are
virtually
> identrical to yours. Thanks agian Paul for your help. I'm looking
> forwaord to getting with you about the best choice for the pump. Take
Care.
> Richard Swiserski
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Pumps
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Took some time today to explore the fuel pump numbers. Here is what I
> found so far. Napa offers several pumps. First is part number P5000 it
> produces 75 psi and cost 99.00 bucks. Do not have a weight on it but
ordered
> one today and I'll weight it tomorrow and get back to you. The others that
I
> have in stock are 2P74028 for 62.99 and P74028 for 94.84 these both
produce
> 90-100 psi and weigh 615 grams or 1.2 pounds. I have a set of digital
scales
> to mix paint with and that's how I came up with that. the "2P" is just a
> cheaper version called tru-flow. They are both made by federal mogul and
are
> very reliable, if the application is correct. The key to these pumps is
that
> you will need a fuel return circuit. This allows the fuel flow to remain
at
> max to cool the electric motors. Otherwise they will burn up quick! Also
you
> mentioned installing in parallel. These pumps will not allow fuel flow if
> not pumping. You will have to incorporate a bypass/check valve in to the
> circuit. Pa!
> > rt # 1691002. I'm sure you have already thought this through but incase
> you haven't perhaps this will help. One more note, I don't know how you
plan
> to incorporate a safety shut off switch into the system, but on cars they
> use an inertia switch that will shut down the pumps in case of a crash and
> the fuel lines become severed. Back in the 80's ford used a frame mounted
> fuel pump like the P74028 and we were goofing around one day and made a
> water gun out of one that was defective. That this will shoot liquid 30-40
> feet!
> > As for the John Deere parts, the numbers would not cross to anything
> available aftermarket. I did call the local dealer to see what they fit so
I
> could check it that way but no luck. He did quote me 145.49 as retail and
> 60.51 on the regulator. Perhaps your dealer is building a Kolb and needs
the
> extra money:-)
> > By the way what engine are you using that has EFI?
> >
> > Later
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Vincehallam@aol.com
please tell us about function of red warning light
vnz
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| Subject: | Fuel tank Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
Howdy Listers,
Happy hollidays to all.
I'm wondering if anyone has installed a aluminum fuel tank with the welded 3/8
NPT flanges and if so, what type of fittings did you use. I have four of these
fittings on my tank, two on top and two on the bottom. Aircraft Spruce has
a finger strainer that would be great for the bottom of the tank, but, I'd like
to draw fuel from the top of the tank. Need some sort of way to get a fuel
pipe through the 3/8 NPT fitting.
Dave, FirestarII, 503, 3 IVO, Full Lotus Monofloat amphibian.
Building MarkIII.
BTW, the Firestar is for sale, would make a wonderful christmas present for some
pilot or wannabe pilot.
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| Subject: | Re: Skydat/EIS Red Light |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
In the case of the EIS, the red warning light indicates an out-of-limit
of a preset number--as when you set EGT for 1200, the light comes on at
1200 and remains on as long as temp is 1200 or higher. At sa,me time the
out-of-tolerance parameter will flash on the display. Maybe I'll scan
the few pp in case anyone wants to see them. Won't be tonight as I'm on
dead line for book editing.
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com.rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Skydat/EIS Red Light |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: George Alexander <gtalexander@att.net>
bob n wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
>
> In the case of the EIS, the red warning light indicates an out-of-limit
> of a preset number--as when you set EGT for 1200, the light comes on at
> 1200 and remains on as long as temp is 1200 or higher. At sa,me time the
> out-of-tolerance parameter will flash on the display. Maybe I'll scan
> the few pp in case anyone wants to see them. Won't be tonight as I'm on
> dead line for book editing.
>
> Bob N.
>
> http://www.angelfire.com.rpg/ronoy/
>
Hope the Grey Baron does a better job editing the book than he did his own
web address.
Or is this a test to see how many people would check out his web site? Hope
he's not using a hit counter to measure. With that 'dot' between the com and
the rpg, (instead of a '/'), he's not going to get any hits.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
George
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I have the 16 gal aluminum tank from TOK, and used the finger strainers in
the bottom of both sides. Also put a fuel shut-off on each side. See my
web-site for details on fuel drains, etc. Used the top one for vent and
fuel return from the injection system. With 2 fittings on yours, you could
drill out a 3/8" pipe plug, or what-ever, run a 5/16", or 3/8" copper tube
down thru it to the proper level, and solder, or silver solder it in place.
I like the silver solder, myself. I would also put an intake screen on that
type of pick-up as well. GoGittum Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank Fittings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
>
> Howdy Listers,
>
> Happy hollidays to all.
> I'm wondering if anyone has installed a aluminum fuel tank with the welded
3/8 NPT flanges and if so, what type of fittings did you use. I have four
of these fittings on my tank, two on top and two on the bottom. Aircraft
Spruce has a finger strainer that would be great for the bottom of the tank,
but, I'd like to draw fuel from the top of the tank. Need some sort of way
to get a fuel pipe through the 3/8 NPT fitting.
>
> Dave, FirestarII, 503, 3 IVO, Full Lotus Monofloat amphibian.
> Building MarkIII.
>
> BTW, the Firestar is for sale, would make a wonderful christmas present
for some pilot or wannabe pilot.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metal Resourse ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Hello,
I'm looking for a resource to order some aluminum angle for an engine
mount. I tried the archives but no luck. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks
Richard Swiderski
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| Subject: | Re: Conversion Program |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Hi
A while back, someone posted a great little program that converted
units, SAE to metric, watts to hp, ect. My computer crashed earlier this
year & I'm still recovering. Any help appreciated.
Richard Swiderski
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kevin Jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
What is askng price?
kj
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank Fittings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
>
> Howdy Listers,
>
> Happy hollidays to all.
> I'm wondering if anyone has installed a aluminum fuel tank with the welded
3/8 NPT flanges and if so, what type of fittings did you use. I have four
of these fittings on my tank, two on top and two on the bottom. Aircraft
Spruce has a finger strainer that would be great for the bottom of the tank,
but, I'd like to draw fuel from the top of the tank. Need some sort of way
to get a fuel pipe through the 3/8 NPT fitting.
>
> Dave, FirestarII, 503, 3 IVO, Full Lotus Monofloat amphibian.
> Building MarkIII.
>
> BTW, the Firestar is for sale, would make a wonderful christmas present
for some pilot or wannabe pilot.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skydat/EIS Red Light |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
DabnaggitGeo, I no sooner put the slash on the end, an' then ana went
aputa damnfool dot rite in the muddle, like the shoemaker's kids with
righteous shoes. That dot shoulda groan inta a slash. This whole
conversation is most nugatory, butt thanks fer yer cornsideration.
Bob N. nevar make misteaks
Do not archive, nor resuscitate
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| Subject: | Re: Conversion Program |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: gtalexander@att.net
Richard:
Go to: http://www.joshmadison.com/software/
The program is called Convert.
George
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
> <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
> Hi
>
> A while back, someone posted a great little program that converted
> units, SAE to metric, watts to hp, ect. My computer crashed earlier this
> year & I'm still recovering. Any help appreciated.
>
> Richard Swiderski
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Conversion Program |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
Richard, the program is called convert. I will try to sent to you off
line...
Richard Harris
MK3 N912RH
Lewisville, Arkansas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Conversion Program
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
<swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
> Hi
>
> A while back, someone posted a great little program that converted
> units, SAE to metric, watts to hp, ect. My computer crashed earlier this
> year & I'm still recovering. Any help appreciated.
>
> Richard Swiderski
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metal Resourse ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
You posted two messages, with two questions, but I get to answer both posts
with one message <grin>
The program that converts apples to oranges is called
Convert (Amazing!)
http://www.joshmadison.com/software
and Aircraft Spruce has aluminum angles in a bunch of sizes and lengths and
thicknesses, page 71 in the 2001-2002 catalog
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:16 PM 12/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
><swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
>Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a resource to order some aluminum angle for an engine
>mount. I tried the archives but no luck. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks
>
>Richard Swiderski
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metal Resourse ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob" <rcarillon@neo.rr.com>
Richard,Try this site. Not sure if you will find what you need. Just had one
open in our area. Don't know much about them yet.
http://www.metalsupermarkets.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Metal Resourse ?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
<swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a resource to order some aluminum angle for an engine
> mount. I tried the archives but no luck. Anyone have suggestions?
Thanks
>
> Richard Swiderski
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Conversion Program |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Gentlemen,
you guys are the best! I just had to ask & now I'm back at it
converting toes to fingers. Its an all time favorite. thanks
...Richard Swiderski
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From: <gtalexander@att.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Conversion Program
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: gtalexander@att.net
>
> Richard:
> Go to: http://www.joshmadison.com/software/
>
> The program is called Convert.
>
> George
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
> > <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > A while back, someone posted a great little program that converted
> > units, SAE to metric, watts to hp, ect. My computer crashed earlier
this
> > year & I'm still recovering. Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Richard Swiderski
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metal Resourse ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Here's links to a couple other meetal suppliers:
http://www.shapirosupply.com/
http://www.suppliersonline.com/
At 09:16 PM 12/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
><swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
>Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a resource to order some aluminum angle for an engine
>mount. I tried the archives but no luck. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks
>
>Richard Swiderski
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
You should be able to put in a brass fitting - 1/4" OD tube compression to
3/8" MPT (male pipe thread). Unless you can find one that's bored through
for the 1/4" tubing, normally they are manufactured with tubing stops, you
may have to do that yourself. You should be able to bore it through your
self since the compression end of the fitting holding the tubing does not
have to provide a perfect seal around the tubing. (After boring I would
think the compression joint should be tight enough that it will seal for a
liquid around the tube, the tube will be continuous passing through the
fitting so there would be no suction leak.) The fitting should be
available at Lowe's, Home Depot, or a good hardware. Use a 1/4" OD piece
of copper as pickup and secure it with at the entrance with the compression
part of the fitting. Bored through fittings are available but probably
difficult to find at general plumbing supply outlets, may find them at
industrial-instrumentation supply houses.
Here's a link to Swagelok showing the fitting:
http://www.swagelok.com/product.asp?tp=117&ct=657&tpd=Fittings+%2D+Tube&ctd=Bored%2DThrough%3A+Connects+tubing+to+female+thread&bigp=CPH351%2DS%2Ejpg&nump=76&group=FITTINGS&GroupDescjerb
At 09:33 PM 12/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kevin Jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
>
>What is askng price?
>kj
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank Fittings
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
> >
> > Howdy Listers,
> >
> > Happy hollidays to all.
> > I'm wondering if anyone has installed a aluminum fuel tank with the welded
>3/8 NPT flanges and if so, what type of fittings did you use. I have four
>of these fittings on my tank, two on top and two on the bottom. Aircraft
>Spruce has a finger strainer that would be great for the bottom of the tank,
>but, I'd like to draw fuel from the top of the tank. Need some sort of way
>to get a fuel pipe through the 3/8 NPT fitting.
> >
> > Dave, FirestarII, 503, 3 IVO, Full Lotus Monofloat amphibian.
> > Building MarkIII.
> >
> > BTW, the Firestar is for sale, would make a wonderful christmas present
>for some pilot or wannabe pilot.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
That'll work, but be VERY careful using compression fittings on fuel lines.
For the last 20 yrs, I've made my living in a/c/refrigeration/commercial
appliance & restaurant service, and have used 100's of them. My experience
has been iffy, and I'd be extremely spooky using them on flammables.
Probably the biggest problem I've seen is with people cranking them down too
tight, (they should be snug, plus a "little bit") which does 2 things.
1.) They'll tend to loosen in the sleeves, and there's no more slack to be
taken, and 2.) As you tighten the fitting, the ferrule will squeeze down
the diameter of the tubing, which could restrict the flow. On 1/4" tubing,
if you were to tighten the ferrule all the way down, I doubt if you'd have
more than about 1/8" I.D., and have an un-stop-able potential leak, to boot.
On water lines, such as on your refrigerators' ice maker, they do fairly
well, since if they start to leak, you can crank down a bit on the nut till
it stops, and only suffer a wet floor.. (usually - see "1" above.) You
wanna do that every time you smell gas ?? On more demanding applications,
(refrigeration) we just don't use them. Period. In that application, we
use flare fittings, or silver solder. Sorry, but I'd recommend
against them. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tank Fittings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>
> You should be able to put in a brass fitting - 1/4" OD tube compression to
> 3/8" MPT (male pipe thread). Unless you can find one that's bored through
> for the 1/4" tubing, normally they are manufactured with tubing stops,
you
> may have to do that yourself. You should be able to bore it through your
> self since the compression end of the fitting holding the tubing does not
> have to provide a perfect seal around the tubing. (After boring I would
> think the compression joint should be tight enough that it will seal for a
> liquid around the tube, the tube will be continuous passing through the
> fitting so there would be no suction leak.) The fitting should be
> available at Lowe's, Home Depot, or a good hardware. Use a 1/4" OD piece
> of copper as pickup and secure it with at the entrance with the
compression
> part of the fitting. Bored through fittings are available but probably
> difficult to find at general plumbing supply outlets, may find them at
> industrial-instrumentation supply houses.
> Here's a link to Swagelok showing the fitting:
>
http://www.swagelok.com/product.asp?tp=117&ct=657&tpd=Fittings+%2D+Tube&ctdBored%2DThrough%3A+Connects+tubing+to+female+thread&bigp=CPH351%2DS%2Ejpg&nu
mp=76&group=FITTINGS&GroupDescjerb
>
>
> At 09:33 PM 12/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kevin Jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
> >
> >What is askng price?
> >kj
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dave Stroberg" <dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank Fittings
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Stroberg"
<dgstro@albemarlenet.com>
> > >
> > > Howdy Listers,
> > >
> > > Happy hollidays to all.
> > > I'm wondering if anyone has installed a aluminum fuel tank with the
welded
> >3/8 NPT flanges and if so, what type of fittings did you use. I have
four
> >of these fittings on my tank, two on top and two on the bottom. Aircraft
> >Spruce has a finger strainer that would be great for the bottom of the
tank,
> >but, I'd like to draw fuel from the top of the tank. Need some sort of
way
> >to get a fuel pipe through the 3/8 NPT fitting.
> > >
> > > Dave, FirestarII, 503, 3 IVO, Full Lotus Monofloat amphibian.
> > > Building MarkIII.
> > >
> > > BTW, the Firestar is for sale, would make a wonderful christmas
present
> >for some pilot or wannabe pilot.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spark plug wire spreader thingies |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Denny, it's all your fault..............there I was, sprawled in bed,
reading a good mystery, and got to noodling about your spreaders. Then, it
hit me................if all you need is separation, and not real sexy
looks, make your spreaders out of BLACK ty-raps (wire ties) and short pieces
of 1/4" I.D. hose. If you have 4 wires, string 3 pieces of hose, each, say,
3/8" inch long, on the ty-rap; then bend it around the 1st wire, thru the
1st piece of hose; over the 2nd wire, thru the 2nd piece; over the 3rd wire,
etc. Take a look at my "engine & redrive" section for a look at the basic
idea. To tie them to a support, add 1 more piece of
hose...............doesn't have to be on an end; could be between any of
the wires. Harrrrr..................gonna take another look at Vamoose'
wiring now...........! ! ! Woke-Up Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: spark plug wire spreader thingies
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> I have been checking the local autoparts for the little clips that keep
your spark plug wires spaced evenly apart. Nobody seems to have em. I need
a couple two wire ones and a handfull of three wire ones. Would also like
to have a few of the triples with bolt holes for attaching to the airframe.
> Anybody know where I can find these things?
> Denny Rowe
> Building Mk-3
> 690L-70
> Leechburg, PA
> Getting close, real close.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/02 12:13:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rtonry@hotmail.com writes:
> My Buddy changed all the pins with bolts and castle nuts secured with cotter
> pins. Makes for folding the wing a little more time consuming, but he never
> folds them anyway.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GeoR38@aol.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: safety pins
>
>
> I have folded my plane since 1992 and have never had a problem....indeed, I
consider the folding an opportunity to inspect fitness and condition of the
pins and the holes they go through....kinda forces a more detailed check.
Which reminds me, my struts are gettin kinda loose...we use to talk about
bushings here ....anyone do that on their struts?
george Randolph
firestar driver from Akron, O
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