---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/19/02: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:20 AM - Re: covering (Kirk Smith) 2. 05:47 AM - Re: covering (John Hauck) 3. 08:28 AM - Rotax 447 - Victor 1+ Comparison (Jack & Louise Hart) 4. 08:36 AM - Flooded MKIII (AULSU@aol.com) 5. 08:55 AM - Re: Rotax 447 - Victor 1+ Comparison (hmhumes) 6. 01:24 PM - Re: Rotax 447 - Victor 1+ Comparison (Jack & Louise Hart) 7. 03:00 PM - Re: Cable connector (woody) 8. 03:00 PM - Re: Second Chantz (woody) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:58 AM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" Thanks John, Sort of, the wings are covered but the hinges aren't installed yet. Interesting that your hinge rivets have loosened. I wonder if it's because of poor quality rivets, less than perfect design of the hinge system, less than perfect installation of the rivets or variation from the rivet/hinge installation directions ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > > > Sounds like a good idea. I would think that it would also re-enforce > > the hinges and give the rivets a bit more protection from the > > elements. Snuffy > > Snuffy/Gang/ > > Have you ever covered the wing and attached hinges > per the instructions? If not, you ought to try > it. Personally, I think that is the way I do it. > > As for fabric reinforcing the hinges and giving > the rivets more protection? I don't think so. > > For some reason, maybe just my airplanes, but > occassionally a pop rivet head will seperate on > the hinges, sometimes I get them on the upper > vertical stabilizer attachments too. If the rivet > is conveniently covered up, you won't know it. > Maybe that is no big deal for some, but I just as > soon drill them out and replace. > > I also know from practical experience on a lot of > Kolb wings, mine, that I have covered and > recovered, it is extremely difficult to get slit > fits to look anywhere neat enough (for me anyhow) > or for most aircraft judges. The slit fit I am > talking about is the one around the lift strut > tang. Might be even harder to do correctly on all > those hinges. > > To each his own, > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:59 AM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Interesting that your hinge rivets have loosened. Snuffy > > For some reason, maybe just my airplanes, but > > occassionally a pop rivet head will seperate on > > the hinges, sometimes I get them on the upper > > vertical stabilizer attachments too. > > john h Snuf/Gang: I didn't say my hinge rivets have loosened. I said "occasssionally a pop rivet head will seperate", i.e., pop off, leaving the stem behind. Guess it could be caused by a number of things, but is not a serious problem. Now, if a hand full of them popped their heads at one time, yep, I would start getting concerned. Only place that I can think of that had lose rivets was lower portion of bottom rudder hinge. I keep a check on those. john h ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:35 AM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 447 - Victor 1+ Comparison --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart I have received several requests for information about the Victor 1+ and how it stacks up against the Rotax 447. So I put together a comparison list. It can be found at: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/victor_fuel.html In my quest to find a better engine, I visited the local 2 cycle engine guru who sets up motorcycle engines for racing to get a short course on the characteristics of piston port and reed valve induction engines. I was told that reed valve engines, were more economical, idle better, do not load up and are eager to run, and in more general would be more civil than a piston ported engine. Everything the guru told me has been true when it comes to comparing the Victor 1+ with the Rotax 447. The only unanswered question is, is it going to holdup for the long term, and with that I will just have to wait and see. No flying today. A few days ago we were in deep snow, then very high winds, and today it is water. Have a good Holiday! Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:28 AM PST US From: AULSU@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Flooded MKIII --> Kolb-List message posted by: AULSU@aol.com Hi troops, The old fighter pilot is back in the air with everything working. I had to change the brakes linings, replace hotbox and wiring to all the instruments, replace radio and headsets, change choke and throttle cables and spray everything with ACF50. My new radio is a JRC JHP-500 which overcomes the noise of the 582. I can now talk to tower from 8 miles away.The radio was recommended by Mike Fine, Bruce n' Kathy and I highly recommend it . I am also happy with my new Light speed QFR Solo headset. Thanks to Hans Van Alpen and Jim & Phyllis for the recommendation am ordering my second one today. I really appreciate all the excellent advice I received from everyone. Also thank Beauford for the vortec Generator info which I haven't installed yet. Do not archive Tom Guidroz MK-III, 582, 130 hrs. Houma, La. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:59 AM PST US From: "hmhumes" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 447 - Victor 1+ Comparison --> Kolb-List message posted by: "hmhumes" Thank you Jack for taking the time to put all of that together. So you are running the Victor 1+ now? Sorry, I haven't read the rest of your website yet to find out for myself. If that is what you're currently running, what is your average fuel consumption? Your graph plots mfg's figures only. Thanks again. Hugh DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack & Louise Hart" Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 447 - Victor 1+ Comparison > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart > > I have received several requests for information about the Victor 1+ and how it stacks up against the Rotax 447. So I put together a comparison list. It can be found at: > > http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/victor_fuel.html > > In my quest to find a better engine, I visited the local 2 cycle engine guru who sets up motorcycle engines for racing to get a short course on the characteristics of piston port and reed valve induction engines. I was told that reed valve engines, were more economical, idle better, do not load up and are eager to run, and in more general would be more civil than a piston ported engine. Everything the guru told me has been true when it comes to comparing the Victor 1+ with the Rotax 447. The only unanswered question is, is it going to holdup for the long term, and with that I will just have to wait and see. > > No flying today. A few days ago we were in deep snow, then very high winds, and today it is water. > > Have a good Holiday! > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Jackson, MO > > > Jack & Louise Hart > jbhart@ldd.net > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:34 PM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 447 - Victor 1+ Comparison --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart At 08:54 AM 12/19/02 -0800, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "hmhumes" > >Thank you Jack for taking the time to put all of that together. So you are >running the Victor 1+ now? Sorry, I haven't read the rest of your website >yet to find out for myself. If that is what you're currently running, what >is your average fuel consumption? Your graph plots mfg's figures only. >Thanks again. > >Hugh > >DO NOT ARCHIVE Hugh, After the Holidays, I will be taking some inflight data. When I get it done and plotted, I will let you know. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:55 PM PST US From: woody Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cable connector --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody A > > I am building a heater box and need to afffix a push pull tube. What would > > work perfect for me is the little u channel piece the Firestar uses to > > attach I bit of square key stock a hacksaw and some small drills and taps should get you what you want. Or do it the easy way and call Kolb ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:56 PM PST US From: woody Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Second Chantz --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody Back in the eighties a Canadian company called Niagara had a remote deployed chute that had a spring powered drogue chute. Never had to worry about rockets with them. Did not have the same penetrating power as a rocket but they still pulled the chute out okay. I always thought the electrically fired rockets were like an Estes Rocket with a hot wire inside them for ignition.