---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/29/02: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:00 AM - Re: Cold weather gear for hands (Jim Ballenger) 2. 08:05 AM - Engine De-rating and Bearing Life (Jack & Louise Hart) 3. 09:20 AM - landing gear legs (John J. Peters) 4. 11:59 AM - kolbs for sale (Paul Petty) 5. 12:18 PM - [ Jim Gerken ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 6. 12:22 PM - [ William George ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 7. 06:23 PM - Elevator deflection? (Kenny) 8. 06:37 PM - Re:FSII BRAKES (fly3g) 9. 06:47 PM - Help! 503 on a MKIII? (Richard Pike) 10. 07:10 PM - Re: Help! 503 on a MKIII? (John Hauck) 11. 07:14 PM - Re: Help! 503 on a MKIII? (G. T. Alexander, Jr.) 12. 07:41 PM - Re: Elevator deflection? () 13. 07:57 PM - Re: Help! 503 on a MKIII? (H MITCHELL) 14. 08:07 PM - Re: Elevator deflection? (Kenny) 15. 09:10 PM - Re: Help! 503 on a MKIII? (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:26 AM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cold weather gear for hands --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Ken When I was riding motorcycles, I had a complete set of electrics ( the vest, chaps and gloves) for both me and my wife. We stayed warm all winter long. Most of the motorcycle magazines have an ad or two for the electric stuff. This is what I plan on using with the MK III X when I complete it. Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Kolb-List: Cold weather gear for hands > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > Are there any suppliers for gloves similar to this vest? What with long > undies and the little chemical footwarmers, the only place I really get cold > is my hands. I bought a pair of gloves that are supposed to be heated > "electrically" by batteries, but even wearing them AND using the chemical > handwarmers, my hands, especially my stick hand, get very cold. That's the > part of me that's the most limiting in terms of time in the air during cold > weather, I'd say. > > Any suggestions, folks? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Harris" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Chilly Vest - Look, John Hauck > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" > > > > > Howard, You can find the Chilli heated vest @ sargentcycle.com > > > > > > Richard Harris > > MK3 N912RH > > Lewisville, Arkansas > > > > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Chilly Vest - Look, John Hauck > > > > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com > > > > > > John, can you tell me how to find the Chilly Vest? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Howard Shackleford > > > FS II > > > SC > > > > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:03 AM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Kolb-List: Engine De-rating and Bearing Life --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart A couple of months ago there was a thread "Rotax operating speeds". While researching and working on the comparison between the Rotax 447 and Victor 1+, I ran across some Timken bearing info. I calculated out what would be the expected change in bearing life for the Victor 1+ by reducing top engine speed from 6,000 rpm to 5,200 rpm (38 hp). Using Simonini's expected total before overhaul time of 600 hours, I found that the bearing life would be extended to a little less than 1,800 hours. If you would like to see the calculations, they can be seen on the bottom of: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/victor_fuel.html This pretty well indicates that if one wants to increase engine reliability, the easiest thing one can do is to stay away from prolonged flights at high engine rpm. More snow. See you next year. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:26 AM PST US From: "John J. Peters" Subject: Kolb-List: landing gear legs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John J. Peters" Can anyone on the list tell me what the wall thickness is on 4130 steel landing gear ? I am thinking of building a dolly , and thought 4130 of similar thickness should work fine. Thanks for your time and help . TopGunPI@att.net FS II on Floats S.E.Ma. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:19 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: kolbs for sale SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Here are a couple of Kolbs for sale! http://www.aerotraderonline.com/adsearchprocess.html ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: [ Jim Gerken ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Jim Gerken Subject: Fuel pump defect found! http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/gerken@us.ibm.com.12.29.2002/index.html -------------------------------------------- o EMAIL LIST PHOTO SHARE Share your files and photos with other List members simply by emailing the files to: pictures@matronics.com Please view the typical Share above and include the Description Text Fields as shown along with your submission of files and photos. o Main Photo Share Index: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare -------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:11 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: [ William George ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: William George Subject: Mk-3 For Sale http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com.12.29.2002/index.html -------------------------------------------- o EMAIL LIST PHOTO SHARE Share your files and photos with other List members simply by emailing the files to: pictures@matronics.com Please view the typical Share above and include the Description Text Fields as shown along with your submission of files and photos. o Main Photo Share Index: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare -------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:36 PM PST US From: "Kenny " Subject: Kolb-List: Elevator deflection? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kenny " What is the degree of deflection upwards and downwards that one should see in you elevators? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:03 PM PST US From: "fly3g" Subject: RE:Kolb-List: FSII BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: "fly3g" Dave (TAILDRAGGER503@aol.com ) I have been using a disc brake system on my FS2 that is lighter than the drum brake system. There is a picture on the photoshare list dated August 11. Gregg Boulder,CO FS2/503/ 2v2 http://home.attbi.com/~fly3g/index.htm ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:34 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Help! 503 on a MKIII? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike I need an answer Muy Pronto if posssssible... My trusty old Rotax 532 got terribly sick today, but lingered long enough to get me back to the airport gracefully from about 4 miles out. (There's good sermon material in there, but that's for another time...) Reason for failure so far unknown, that's not a priority at the moment. In order to get the airplane home tomorrow from 25 miles away, a friend has loaned me an old style 503, complete with everything, even the right prop for that engine, a wooden Tennessee Propellors 60" 2 blade. Question: I have always used a prop extension before because of the flexibility of the IVO, but with a rigid prop, 1996 version MKIII, can the extension be omitted? Will the wood prop clear everything safely? Because if it will, then I don't have to fiddle around with figuring out the correct repitch to use on my IVO. (I have the old style IVO, stack the shims, restack the shims - etc.) I want to use the wood prop if possible to get it home before the weather goes down. Thanks. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:11 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Help! 503 on a MKIII? --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Question: I > have always used a prop extension before because of the flexibility of the > IVO, but with a rigid prop, 1996 version MKIII, can the extension be > omitted? Will the wood prop clear everything safely? Because if it will, > then I don't have to fiddle around with figuring out the correct repitch to > use on my IVO. > Richard Pike Hi Richard/Gang: Glad you made it. Also, if it had to happen, glad it waited until today. Stopped by to visit Richard last Friday late. We went for a short orientation flight around his AO. Great place to fly. Beautiful area. Enjoyed my flight and am proud to say we had power from takeoff to landing. Richard, back in the old days of fixed pitch wooden props on Kolbs, we didn't know the definition of prop extensions. I would think you would be alright without one. I flew my MK III and 582 with a Warp Drive Fast Taper Prop for a while without extension and no stikes. Also flew the GSC 3 blade wooden prop with the 582 on my MK III. Take care, john h ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:07 PM PST US From: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Help! 503 on a MKIII? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Richard: Doesn't mean that there isn't, but....... don't remember ever seeing an ext. with a Tenn Prop. I have a TPI pushing my Original Firestar (R377), no ext. A friend had a R447 with a TPI on a Firestar, no ext. Don't know what the deflection is in the tips of the woody, but can't be much. Fun, Safe Flying! George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Kolb-List: Help! 503 on a MKIII? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > I need an answer Muy Pronto if posssssible... > > My trusty old Rotax 532 got terribly sick today, but lingered long enough > to get me back to the airport gracefully from about 4 miles out. (There's > good sermon material in there, but that's for another time...) Reason for > failure so far unknown, that's not a priority at the moment. > In order to get the airplane home tomorrow from 25 miles away, a friend has > loaned me an old style 503, complete with everything, even the right prop > for that engine, a wooden Tennessee Propellors 60" 2 blade. Question: I > have always used a prop extension before because of the flexibility of the > IVO, but with a rigid prop, 1996 version MKIII, can the extension be > omitted? Will the wood prop clear everything safely? Because if it will, > then I don't have to fiddle around with figuring out the correct repitch to > use on my IVO. (I have the old style IVO, stack the shims, restack the > shims - etc.) I want to use the wood prop if possible to get it home before > the weather goes down. > > Thanks. > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:11 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Elevator deflection? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kenny, My Mark-3 manual calls for 9.75 inches minimum measured at the aft most tip of the elevator, it says it's OK to have a little more. This is a 1992 manual. Don't know what the firestar or firefly would be. Denny Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenny Subject: Kolb-List: Elevator deflection? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kenny " > > > What is the degree of deflection upwards and downwards that one should > see in you elevators? > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:56 PM PST US From: "H MITCHELL" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Help! 503 on a MKIII? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" Richard et al, My first Mk3 was powered with a 503 DC/DI. I always thought it was underpowered. It did fine with just me in it but with two aboard (160# each) it was pretty sick. Glenn Rinck (over 70 airplanes now completed) said he re-set the ailerons a few degrees above level with the bottom of the wing and took another 200-pounder for a nice ride. He liked the way it flew but I did not. I want enough power to will allow me to fly on the hottest, highest humidity day of the year with plenty of margin for error. Your plane will fly with the 503 but don't plan on bringing any friends along. Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, FireFly 447, Mk3/912 in hangar. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Help! 503 on a MKIII? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike I need an answer Muy Pronto if posssssible... My trusty old Rotax 532 got terribly sick today, but lingered long enough to get me back to the airport gracefully from about 4 miles out. (There's good sermon material in there, but that's for another time...) Reason for failure so far unknown, that's not a priority at the moment. In order to get the airplane home tomorrow from 25 miles away, a friend has loaned me an old style 503, complete with everything, even the right prop for that engine, a wooden Tennessee Propellors 60" 2 blade. Question: I have always used a prop extension before because of the flexibility of the IVO, but with a rigid prop, 1996 version MKIII, can the extension be omitted? Will the wood prop clear everything safely? Because if it will, then I don't have to fiddle around with figuring out the correct repitch to use on my IVO. (I have the old style IVO, stack the shims, restack the shims - etc.) I want to use the wood prop if possible to get it home before the weather goes down. Thanks. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:11 PM PST US From: "Kenny " Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Elevator deflection? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kenny " I am getting a 24 degree downward deflection and upward deflection is no problem. My elevator horn posts going out to the elevator post contacts the boom a little sooner than I'd like. May go in with some emory cloth and smooth out some of the little burrs that might be hanging me up. Thanks Denny I may give Kolb a phone call in the morning before I go to work. > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 12/29/2002 8:49:17 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Elevator deflection? > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: > > Kenny, > My Mark-3 manual calls for 9.75 inches minimum measured at the aft most tip > of the elevator, it says it's OK to have a little more. This is a 1992 > manual. Don't know what the Firestar or firefly would be. > Denny Rowe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kenny > To: Kolb List > Subject: Kolb-List: Elevator deflection? > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kenny " > > > > > > What is the degree of deflection upwards and downwards that one should > > see in you elevators? > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:07 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Help! 503 on a MKIII? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Thanks for all the answers. Will stick the old 503 on tomorrow morning and see if it will get me home. Need to be home by 1 PM, temps supposed to hit 60 tomorrow, need to get in a motorcycle ride tomorrow afternoon before winter rushes back here again... But boy, it was gorgeous weather today! We had 13 airplanes flying in to a little grass strip out in the country, good coffee, good friends, good flying. Especially before all the vulgar-type noises and slowly falling RPM's started emanating from just ahead of the prop... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Do Not Archive