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1. 06:16 AM - MarkIII Jim Ballenger (DAVID STROBERG)
2. 07:13 AM - Kolb for sale (Fackler, Ken)
3. 07:16 AM - Transponder (Duncan McBride)
4. 07:51 AM - Re: Transponder (Jeremy Casey)
5. 08:34 AM - Re: Transponder (Cy Galley)
6. 08:47 AM - Re: Transponder (Duncan McBride)
7. 08:47 AM - Re: Transponder (Robert Kearbey)
8. 08:55 AM - Re: Transponder ()
9. 09:59 AM - Re: Transponder (bob n)
10. 11:20 AM - Mk III Radiator (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
11. 11:44 AM - BRS for a Mark-3 (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
12. 12:05 PM - Re: Mk III Radiator (Robert Kearbey)
13. 12:19 PM - Re: BRS for a Mark-3 (Duncan McBride)
14. 01:38 PM - Re: Transponder (Duncan McBride)
15. 03:26 PM - Re: Transponder (bob n)
16. 03:38 PM - Re: Transponder (RFG842@aol.com)
17. 04:52 PM - Re: Mk III Radiator (CaptainRon)
18. 04:59 PM - Re: Transponder (CaptainRon)
19. 05:01 PM - Re: Transponder (CaptainRon)
20. 05:03 PM - MKIII on a FSII trailer? (Richard Pike)
21. 05:23 PM - Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? (John Cooley)
22. 05:40 PM - Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? (Richard Pike)
23. 06:20 PM - Re: Transponder aka OFs (bob n)
24. 06:24 PM - Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? (Bill Woods)
25. 06:40 PM - Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? (John Cooley)
26. 06:50 PM - Re: Mk III Radiator (John Hauck)
27. 08:06 PM - Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? (DAVID STROBERG)
28. 09:31 PM - Re: BRS for a Mark-3 (SR3SA2L1@aol.com)
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| Subject: | MarkIII Jim Ballenger |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "DAVID STROBERG" <dgstro@greenvillenc.com>
Jim,
Send me a quick note. The reply I sent you got bounced. Seems your address got
bummed somewhere along the way.
Thanks, Dave Hertford NC
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Here's another Kolb up for sale, this one on ebay:
Item # 1876011906
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I have 16 hours on my Mark III, and I'm contemplating the future when I fly off
the restriction. I'm going to need a practical (cheap) solution to flying into
Class C airspace, and would sure appreciate some advice. Are used transponders
a generally safe bet? Reconditioned? Even the sold as-is units seem to
command a good price, so either they hold their value because they are pretty
reliable, or else there are a lot of guys like me willing to take a chance to
save a few bucks keeping the prices up. What's been y'alls experience?
A related issue - where am I going to put the thing in my teeny little panel?
I'm thinking of a console I can bang my knee on, or an overhead I can bang my
head on....
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net>
Do you want to limp or see stars???
Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Duncan
McBride
Subject: Kolb-List: Transponder
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride
<duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I have 16 hours on my Mark III, and I'm contemplating the future when I
fly off the restriction. I'm going to need a practical (cheap) solution
to flying into Class C airspace, and would sure appreciate some advice.
Are used transponders a generally safe bet? Reconditioned? Even the
sold as-is units seem to command a good price, so either they hold their
value because they are pretty reliable, or else there are a lot of guys
like me willing to take a chance to save a few bucks keeping the prices
up. What's been y'alls experience?
A related issue - where am I going to put the thing in my teeny little
panel? I'm thinking of a console I can bang my knee on, or an overhead
I can bang my head on....
=
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
You can get a microair transponder for about $1200 US that uses a 2 1/4"
hole for mounting. http://www.mcp.com.au/microair/category4_1.htm
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
We support Aeroncas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Transponder
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net>
>
> Do you want to limp or see stars???
>
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Duncan
> McBride
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Transponder
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride
> <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>
> I have 16 hours on my Mark III, and I'm contemplating the future when I
> fly off the restriction. I'm going to need a practical (cheap) solution
> to flying into Class C airspace, and would sure appreciate some advice.
> Are used transponders a generally safe bet? Reconditioned? Even the
> sold as-is units seem to command a good price, so either they hold their
> value because they are pretty reliable, or else there are a lot of guys
> like me willing to take a chance to save a few bucks keeping the prices
> up. What's been y'alls experience?
>
> A related issue - where am I going to put the thing in my teeny little
> panel? I'm thinking of a console I can bang my knee on, or an overhead
> I can bang my head on....
>
>
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
A streamlined pod on the wing strut to hold a radio stack would be cool....
I checked the archives, and of course found some useful posts. I should
have done that first. I think I'll find out what the nearby avionics shops
can provide in the way of reconditioned used gear. Maybe work on a deal for
a panel mounted radio at the same time. King, Narco, and Cessna gear seems
to enjoy a healthy used market. We'll see.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Transponder
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net>
>
> Do you want to limp or see stars???
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> A related issue - where am I going to put the thing in my teeny little
> panel? I'm thinking of a console I can bang my knee on, or an overhead
> I can bang my head on....
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Kearbey" <kearbey@jps.net>
This is where mine goes! Will attach picture.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Transponder
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride
<duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>
> I have 16 hours on my Mark III, and I'm contemplating the future when I
fly off the restriction. I'm going to need a practical (cheap) solution to
flying into Class C airspace, and would sure appreciate some advice. Are
used transponders a generally safe bet? Reconditioned? Even the sold as-is
units seem to command a good price, so either they hold their value because
they are pretty reliable, or else there are a lot of guys like me willing to
take a chance to save a few bucks keeping the prices up. What's been y'alls
experience?
>
> A related issue - where am I going to put the thing in my teeny little
panel? I'm thinking of a console I can bang my knee on, or an overhead I
can bang my head on....
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ":-\)" <captainron@theriver.com>
In most cases a tagged Txpndr is as good as a new one. I have been using a
reconditioned ARC txpndr for over 2200 hrs and its trouble free. I bought it
for about 500 bucks iirc. Go to trade a Plane and order it from one of the
bigger outfits. It will come with a warrantee. I think I bought mine from
Juliette Air center or some such name. The Micro Air that Jeramy mentioned
is a real good choice. Small and light. In fact I have been looking at it
for my Beech in case the ARC unit goes t.u..
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
Watch out for old Cessna radios--most are junk! Transponders, which are
all TSOd, do hold their value...and used with tag, are OK. They have to
be ckd every two years--look for that.
Bob N. old GA guy for 56 years
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Hello Kolbers
I have a MK III and the original radiator couldn't hack it for summertime flying
in southern Arizona, so we replaced it with an automotive type. Works jess
fine, thank ewe, never getting over 180 degrees even on the hottest days. But
now I'm flying in Prescott (5200') in the winter. Flew for a couple of hours
on the 27th with the outside temp around 50 degrees. The water temp never quite
reached 130 degrees. Question is, is there a problem here with the engine
not getting hotter than this? It ran real fine but I'm a bit concerned as to
whether or not I should install a thermostat. If so, what do you guys recommend?
(By the way, I have a used 582 radiator for sale.)
Happy Holidays
Arizona Dave
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| Subject: | BRS for a Mark-3 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Kolb Friends -
I made the decision to install a BRS on my M3-Classic.
Since I must fold/unfold the wings (and hence, remove the gap seal) for each
flight, I'm polling the list for which type of 'chute to install. The
canister or softpack? It will be the 1050-lb rated BRS.
Thanks for any suggestions ...
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Mk III Radiator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Kearbey" <kearbey@jps.net>
I question whether your mixture is right for the hotter temperature. 582
radiator works fine on my MKIII at 110 degrees. Never gets over 185 at the
very highest. But in the winter I change cip on the carb needle one notch.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk III Radiator
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
<pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Hello Kolbers
>
> I have a MK III and the original radiator couldn't hack it for summertime
flying in southern Arizona, so we replaced it with an automotive type.
Works jess fine, thank ewe, never getting over 180 degrees even on the
hottest days. But now I'm flying in Prescott (5200') in the winter. Flew
for a couple of hours on the 27th with the outside temp around 50 degrees.
The water temp never quite reached 130 degrees. Question is, is there a
problem here with the engine not getting hotter than this? It ran real fine
but I'm a bit concerned as to whether or not I should install a thermostat.
If so, what do you guys recommend? (By the way, I have a used 582 radiator
for sale.)
> Happy Holidays
> Arizona Dave
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BRS for a Mark-3 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
If I couldn't fully enclose the softpack so the gap cover could fit over it
with a tear-through cover where the rocket would fire, I think I'd opt for
the canister, mounted above the gap cover - only a few small slots would
have to be cut in the cover to fit. The canister is about the size of the
912's oil tank anyway, so it would have some company...
What I did was buy the 1050 VLS, and it wouldn't fit inside the cover - now
I have a huge hole in the gap cover where the VLS sticks through, and I
think it leaks a lot of lift up and around the VLS. I'm thinking of some
kind of neoprene seal or something to close the gap but still let the chute
fire. Now I wish I had mounted the VLS higher, above the level of the gap
cover, so there would only be two small slots for the mount instead of a big
hole. Might as well have bought the canister, because I don't think there
is any less drag the way the VLS is mounted.
The best arrangement would be to fully enclose the soft pack in a permanent
gap seal - if you need to fold the wings, modify the gap seal at the sides
to allow access to the spar pins and clearance for folding. These things
are easier to think of than to do, of course. Good luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Subject: Kolb-List: BRS for a Mark-3
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Kolb Friends -
> I made the decision to install a BRS on my M3-Classic.
> Since I must fold/unfold the wings (and hence, remove the gap seal) for
each
> flight, I'm polling the list for which type of 'chute to install. The
> canister or softpack? It will be the 1050-lb rated BRS.
> Thanks for any suggestions ...
> Dennis Kirby
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Does the inspection that merits the yellow tag serve for the biennial check,
too, or is that something else?
----- Original Message -----
From: "bob n" <ronoy@shentel.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Transponder
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
>
> Watch out for old Cessna radios--most are junk! Transponders, which are
> all TSOd, do hold their value...and used with tag, are OK. They have to
> be ckd every two years--look for that.
>
> Bob N. old GA guy for 56 years
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
Tag or work order must state passing biennial, dated, signed by
tech/shop. The basic test is done by either putting an antenna test box
enclosing the tpdr, or more crudely, putting a test ant near the ship's
ant. This results in an additional test of the coax and ship ant. The
test ant connects to tpdr test set. In the shop they use a special tpdr
test set that couples/plugs into the tpdr ant output jack. They measure
rec. sensitivity, mode decoding accuracy, reply pulse train for pulse
spacing and pulse shape, bracket spacing, code generation, and pwr
output. If you have an encoding altimeter, it gets ckd both
pneumatically (pressure alt ck) and reply pulse train, again for pulse
characteristics, and correct pulse coding of alt vs pulse train.
In a former life I did design work on the first IFF tester--UPN-4&6 as
well as the grandfather of the present beacon system.
Bob N,
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: RFG842@aol.com
Seem to be more grandfathers building these days than any other group. Guess
we have the time and more importantly, the money.
When I started to fly, used to fly the four course ranges.
How old does that make me?
Bob G.
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| Subject: | Re: Mk III Radiator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
12/30/02 11:57Dave & Eve Pelletier
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Hello Kolbers
>
> I have a MK III and the original radiator couldn't hack it for summertime
> flying in southern Arizona, so we replaced it with an automotive type. Works
> jess fine, thank ewe, never getting over 180 degrees even on the hottest days.
> But now I'm flying in Prescott (5200') in the winter. Flew for a couple of
> hours on the 27th with the outside temp around 50 degrees. The water temp
> never quite reached 130 degrees. Question is, is there a problem here with
> the engine not getting hotter than this? It ran real fine but I'm a bit
> concerned as to whether or not I should install a thermostat. If so, what do
> you guys recommend? (By the way, I have a used 582 radiator for sale.)
> Happy Holidays
> Arizona Dave
>
>
>
Well 130 is low but not bad, the most important temp would be your CHT. If
they are runing within the normal range I would be happy. I can't think of
any problems right off in the crank area with temps in the 130's, in fact
the opposit.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
12/30/02 14:41Duncan McBride
> Does the inspection that merits the yellow tag serve for the biennial check,
> too, or is that something else?
==============================
It means that the unit was inspected and it complies with the FAA/MFG specs
for its operational envelope. In other words the unit works no worse than a
brand new unit. The biennial chack simply means that the unit is still
within specs, normally as installed in the airplane.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
12/30/02 16:36RFG842@aol.com
> When I started to fly, used to fly the four course ranges.
>
> How old does that make me?
>
> Bob G.
=================
Thats before my time, I'd say 1940's you'r probably in your 70's?
:-)
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| Subject: | MKIII on a FSII trailer? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
Need some more help: couldn't get the 503 to work out to fly home today, my
MKIII is safely disassembled in a hanger in Virginia.
I have the option of bringing it home on a Firestar II trailer, but it
would help to know what the width of my wheel tread is.
The Kolb literature I have doesn't help much, can anybody tell me what the
distance is between the main gear wheels on a MKIII?
Thanks, Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hi Richard and Gang,
I just bought and hauled home Jeremy Casey's MK III Saturday. It is at the
quick build stage and sitting on the stock landing gear per the plans with
the Matco wheel and brake unit. The distance to the outside of the tires is
just a tad over 77" or about 77-1/2". Hope this helps.
do not archive
Later,
John Cooley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@preferred.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII on a FSII trailer?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
> Need some more help: couldn't get the 503 to work out to fly home today,
my
> MKIII is safely disassembled in a hanger in Virginia.
> I have the option of bringing it home on a Firestar II trailer, but it
> would help to know what the width of my wheel tread is.
> The Kolb literature I have doesn't help much, can anybody tell me what the
> distance is between the main gear wheels on a MKIII?
>
> Thanks, Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
Excellent. I am in business, that's all I needed to know.
Thanks
Richard Pike
MKIIi N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:19 PM 12/30/02 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
>
>Hi Richard and Gang,
>I just bought and hauled home Jeremy Casey's MK III Saturday. It is at the
>quick build stage and sitting on the stock landing gear per the plans with
>the Matco wheel and brake unit. The distance to the outside of the tires is
>just a tad over 77" or about 77-1/2". Hope this helps.
>
>do not archive
>
>Later,
>John Cooley
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@preferred.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII on a FSII trailer?
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>>
>> Need some more help: couldn't get the 503 to work out to fly home today,
>my
>> MKIII is safely disassembled in a hanger in Virginia.
>> I have the option of bringing it home on a Firestar II trailer, but it
>> would help to know what the width of my wheel tread is.
>> The Kolb literature I have doesn't help much, can anybody tell me what the
>> distance is between the main gear wheels on a MKIII?
>>
>> Thanks, Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder aka OFs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
Well, hay-ell! I still have my old approach plates for the four-course
A-HUM-N turns around the barn. Be 80 in coming year....I hope.
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Woods" <kolbpilot@msn.com>
Hey John,
Hated to see that Jeremy was selling his plane but glad to here it went to a worthy
person. Hope you enjoy it thoroughly.
Bill Woods
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| Subject: | Re: MKIII on a FSII trailer? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hi Bill / Gang
Thank you for the nice words. It's hard to believe Jeremy put that much work
into it and then decided not to finish it. I can understand though as his
time is very limited and he wants to be flying and not building. It will be
a while before I can get started covering as I have promised the wife I will
do some remodeling and additions to the house before starting another
airplane project. Shucks, I still have to finish painting a Twinstar Mark II
and keep the Firestar limbered up too. Then there's a hanger that has to be
built. Boy I'm be going to be busy for a while.
do not archive
Ya'll Take Care and Have a Great New Year,
John Cooley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Woods" <kolbpilot@msn.com>
>
>
> Hey John,
>
>
> Hated to see that Jeremy was selling his plane but glad to here it went to
a worthy person. Hope you enjoy it thoroughly.
>
>
> Bill Woods
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| Subject: | Re: Mk III Radiator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
CaptainRon wrote:
> Well 130 is low but not bad, the most important temp would be your CHT. If
> they are runing within the normal range I would be happy. I can't think of
> any problems right off in the crank area with temps in the 130's, in fact
> the opposit.
Captain Ron/Gents:
Was wondering if Captain Ron's comments were based
on experience with the 582 or with GA aircooled
engines?
Maybe Arizona Dave should check his operator's
manual for the 582 and see what coolant temps
should be. If that doesn't work, and no one else
has anymore words of wisdom, recommend contacting
Kodiak Research (Rotax) and get their official
operating limits (green arch). Watercooled
engines (in general) that do not get up to
recommended operating temps usually do not produce
optimum power, nor do they do a good job of
burning fuel.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "DAVID STROBERG" <dgstro@greenvillenc.com>
I have the same set up on a MarkIII and it measures about the same.......
77 to 77 1/5 inches. Drive carefully.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@preferred.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII on a FSII trailer?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
> Need some more help: couldn't get the 503 to work out to fly home today,
my
> MKIII is safely disassembled in a hanger in Virginia.
> I have the option of bringing it home on a Firestar II trailer, but it
> would help to know what the width of my wheel tread is.
> The Kolb literature I have doesn't help much, can anybody tell me what the
> distance is between the main gear wheels on a MKIII?
>
> Thanks, Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BRS for a Mark-3 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: SR3SA2L1@aol.com
Hi Dennis and All,
There was a thread a while back about not mounting the chute between the
wings because it could be trapped by the wings if there is a structural
failure and the wings folded upwards. I don't know what Kolb recommends for
your plane but they told me to mount mine on the boom tube so it would fire
down and back. You may want to ask them before you buy as their answer may
influence which type of mount and pack system you need.
Steve
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