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1. 02:30 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 (WillUribe@aol.com)
2. 03:48 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 (Ken Korenek)
3. 04:51 AM - Slow time (Ed Steuber)
4. 05:45 AM - Re: Suzuki power (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
5. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 (John Hauck)
6. 06:37 AM - Re: Slow time (John Hauck)
7. 07:32 AM - transporting a Firestar (Frank Pruitt)
8. 08:39 AM - Being flying almost every day for the last two weeks (WillUribe@aol.com)
9. 08:39 AM - Re: transporting a Firestar (ul15rhb@juno.com)
10. 08:52 AM - Re: transporting a Firestar (Ken Korenek)
11. 08:55 AM - Re: transporting a Firestar (Frank Pruitt)
12. 10:44 AM - Help (Clay Stuart)
13. 10:58 AM - Re: transporting a Firestar (Dallas Shepherd)
14. 11:03 AM - Re: transporting a Firestar (HShack@aol.com)
15. 12:52 PM - Winter flying fun (Fackler, Ken)
16. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 (Duncan McBride)
17. 02:16 PM - Rotax 532 mystery clearing somewhat (Richard Pike)
18. 02:26 PM - Re: Help (Richard Pike)
19. 02:58 PM - Re: Winter flying fun (John Williamson)
20. 03:32 PM - Re: geo (woody)
21. 04:44 PM - Test (Larry Bourne)
22. 04:55 PM - Re: Test (possums)
23. 05:00 PM - Re: Test (Beauford Tuton)
24. 05:11 PM - Re: Test (John Hauck)
25. 05:16 PM - Test (Larry Bourne)
26. 05:23 PM - Re: geo (Bob Bean)
27. 05:45 PM - Re: Test (bob n)
28. 06:59 PM - Lightweight stove (Larry Cottrell)
29. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: Suzuki power message of Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:56:14 -0800 (Richard Swiderski)
30. 07:12 PM - Re: Winter flying fun (woody)
31. 07:15 PM - Re: geo (woody)
32. 07:39 PM - Re: Lightweight stove (RWilliJill@aol.com)
33. 07:42 PM - test (Bruce L Borg)
34. 07:55 PM - Re: test (Bruce L Borg)
35. 08:14 PM - Re: geo (Richard Swiderski)
36. 08:25 PM - Sunday outing (Peter Volum)
37. 08:26 PM - Re: Lightweight stove (Larry Cottrell)
38. 08:33 PM - The Stork (John Hauck)
39. 09:53 PM - Re: geo (Bob Bean)
40. 11:52 PM - Re: geo (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/uguribe/pic01.jpg
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
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> http://members.aol.com/uguribe/pic01.jpg
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> Will Uribe
> El Paso, TX
> FireStar II N4GU
> C-172 N2506U
Will,
Three questions; when was the picture taken, where was the picture
taken and how cold were your feet?
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Ken W. Korenek
ken-foi@attbi.com
Kolb FireStar II, "My Mistress"
Rotax 503, Oil Injected
3 Blade Powerfin
http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image019.jpg
Six Chuter SR7-XL "Red Baron"
Powered Parachute
Rotax 582, Oil Injected
3 Blade PowerFin
http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image021.jpg
4906 Oak Springs Drive
Arlington, Texas 76016
817-572-6832 voice
817-572-6842 fax
817-657-6500 cell
817-483-8054 home
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
I guess everybody is tired from the holidays or just hibernating for the winter...I
have finally started rebuilding and modifying my second Ultrastar. I
sold the original last fall and have nothing(ultralight) to fly....when your
out of Ultrastars , your out of fun !
I have decided to attempt to stiffin the wings due to the warpage created
by the ailerons....I am thinking of adding a lift strut to the rear "spar" and
adding some reinforcment to the full ribs.....any ideas? Of coarse, I am trying
to keep the weight down but may have created a "fat one" already with Azusa
brakes and modified landing gear with fiberglass 1.25 inch rods. To stay legal
I may have to forget all instruments except engine gauges and forget the fiberglass
nose fairing. The new seat tank is heavy too , and with 6 gallons the
legal issue is comprimised anyway............so maybe the way to go is just
N number it and get it over with.....Then I can add all kinds of gadgets and make
a dog out of a great flying machine....After building a few homebuilts and
knowing the penalty for adding the junk , it still is irresistable.....
Ed in Western NY
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| Subject: | Re: Suzuki power |
message of Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:56:14 -0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
Hey, Bob....Richard Swiderki near Ocala, Florida is working on a
Suzuki turbo for his Slingshot. His project is well underway with him
doing all the alterations and fabbing sysems to make it workable. Check
the archives .....may want to compare notes.
He's a top-notch guy.
Mike in WV
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> http://members.aol.com/uguribe/pic01.jpg
>
> Will Uribe
Will/Gents:
How's the flying weather in your neck of the woods
this time of year?
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> I have decided to attempt to stiffin the wings due to the warpage created
by the ailerons....I am thinking of adding a lift strut to the rear "spar"
and adding some reinforcment to the full ribs.....any ideas?
> Ed in Western NY
Morning Ed/Gang:
My old Ultrastar, March 1984, had needed the
Firestar mod on the inboard wing rib, i.e., the
ring rather than the two small tubes sticking into
the main spar top and bottom.
Also needed a couple more ribs, maybe 7 instead of
5. Would not hurt to reinforce nose and tail of
the main ribs with 1/2" and 3/4" aluminum angle.
Homer designed the Ultrastar, as he did all his
airplanes, for slow flight. To me, the Ultrastar
was one of the best slow flyers. Mine would fly
at 25 mph indicated on the venturi operated Winter
ASI. As long as the needle was on the 25 mph tick
mark, she was flying. If it got a needle width
off the mark, it was mushing. Those big barn door
flaps would control roll right through the
mush/stall. Did it so well, many folks clobbered
them in, right to the ground, in a full mush. Saw
that happen on three seperate occassions. Pilots
walked away unscathed but embarassed. I think I
would experiment by cutting the aileron cord in
half. Might even be able to go shorter than that
on the aileron cord, and still be in full roll
control.
john h
PS: Got some flight time in yesterday, after I
changed oil in the 912S. Plan on getting some
more this afternoon when it warms up a bit. Temps
were 50F on the ground and 40F at 3000 feet.
Should be warmer today. If it warms up too much,
I will have no excuse for not washing the London,
KY, mud and Gantt Int AP dust and cow crap off
Miss P'fer. She flew well hauling mud, dust and
manure yesterday.
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| Subject: | transporting a Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Pruitt" <fpruitt@earthlink.net>
Hi,
I am in the process of buying a 1990 Firestar. It is located in the State
of Washington, and I live in Colorado. I also purchased a enclosed trailer
to transport it in. My question is will I do any damage to the Firestar by
transporting it 1200 miles with the wings folded? Should I remove the wings
and fasten them somehow inside the trailer? I just want to be sure that I
arrive in Colorado without damaging the plane. Any help in this matter
would be greatly appreciated. I am to pick it up the 16th of January, so if
I need to do anything special, I need to get started on it ASAP.
Frank Pruitt
fpruitt@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Being flying almost every day for the last two weeks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Greetings,
For the last two weeks I have been helping a friend put together (not build)
an X-Air so when we start getting into each others way we just go flying.
http://members.aol.com/cesaru/
I think Raul, in December, put about 40 hours on his Firestar.
This is a picture of Dave Rains and Raul flying formation, I took the picture
with a zoom lens.
http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/pic01.jpg
Kolb country
http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/pic02.jpg
First question; The picture was taken this past Saturday.
2nd question; The picture was taken over Soledad Canyon on the New
Mexico-Tejas border.
3rd question; No cold feet, we are in the desert south west and where the
state doesn't charge us taxes on our airplanes or ultralights. The picture
was taken from the side where the sun doesn't shine that is why the snow has
not melted but the sun was keeping us warm.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Korenek" <ken-foi@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
>
> WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/uguribe/pic01.jpg
> >
> > Will Uribe
> > El Paso, TX
> > FireStar II N4GU
> > C-172 N2506U
>
> Will,
>
>=A0=A0 Three questions;=A0 when was the picture taken, where was the picture
> taken and how cold were your feet?
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| Subject: | Re: transporting a Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
Frank,
The problem with transporting the Firestar that great distance is the
weight of the folded wings on the fiberglass or aluminum tailwheel rod.
This supports the tailwheel and if it cracks or breaks, the wings will
get damaged. If you don't want to remove the wings from the plane, you
can unhitch them, swing them out a bit, and use foam underneath to secure
the top and bottom of the outboard ends to the trailer sides. Don't
forget to secure the tailwheel or it with slide into the wings on the
first turn. Another option is to keep the wings hitched and support the
fuselage tube in a cradle lined with foam or carpet secured to the bed of
the trailer. This last method is how I trailer mine to the local field.
Be very careful when hitching and unhitching those wings as they are very
prone to damage. If they are dropped or allowed to scrape on the pavement
it will be very visible when the plane is ready to fly. There are many
Firestar wings that have been damaged this way. Using foam canoe mounts
on the leading edge is very useful.
Ralph
Original Firestar
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:33:24 -0700 "Frank Pruitt" <fpruitt@earthlink.net>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Pruitt"
> <fpruitt@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am in the process of buying a 1990 Firestar. It is located in the
> State
> of Washington, and I live in Colorado. I also purchased a enclosed
> trailer
> to transport it in. My question is will I do any damage to the
> Firestar by
> transporting it 1200 miles with the wings folded? Should I remove
> the wings
> and fasten them somehow inside the trailer? I just want to be sure
> that I
> arrive in Colorado without damaging the plane. Any help in this
> matter
> would be greatly appreciated. I am to pick it up the 16th of
> January, so if
> I need to do anything special, I need to get started on it ASAP.
>
>
> Frank Pruitt
>
> fpruitt@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: transporting a Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
Frank Pruitt wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Pruitt" <fpruitt@earthlink.net>
>
> My question is will I do any damage to the Firestar by
> transporting it 1200 miles with the wings folded?
Frank,
I bought my FireStar in West Virginia and hauled it 1200 miles back to
Texas. I left the wings folded but at the rear of the plane, I ran a strap
from the roof beam down under the leading edges back up to the roof beam as a
cradle. I tightened it up just enough to releave some of the load off the fold
brackets. Be sure to cushion the leading edges from the straps and tie the
whole craft down so it won't move. If you don't lighten the load on the fold
brackets, they can break off on rough roads allowing the wing to dance around
the trailer floor.
I think removing the wings adds extra trouble. Let the airframe hold them
for you, just give it some help with a cradle.
Also, put a stand under the tail boom to the take the load off the tail
wheel- the tail wheel rod was not designed to take the added load of folded
wings and the bumps of travel.
You should be fine. Let us know when you get it home and pictures are
always welcome!
Ken
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Ken W. Korenek
ken-foi@attbi.com
Kolb FireStar II, "My Mistress"
Rotax 503, Oil Injected
3 Blade Powerfin
http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image019.jpg
Six Chuter SR7-XL "Red Baron"
Powered Parachute
Rotax 582, Oil Injected
3 Blade PowerFin
http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image021.jpg
4906 Oak Springs Drive
Arlington, Texas 76016
817-572-6832 voice
817-572-6842 fax
817-657-6500 cell
817-483-8054 home
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| Subject: | transporting a Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Pruitt" <fpruitt@earthlink.net>
Ralph,
Thank you very much for the information. Sounds like I could have done some
damage to the plane had I just driven away. I think that I will do the
fuselage tube cradle, as that would seem to protect the tailwheel assembly
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ul15rhb@juno.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: transporting a Firestar
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
Frank,
The problem with transporting the Firestar that great distance is the
weight of the folded wings on the fiberglass or aluminum tailwheel rod.
This supports the tailwheel and if it cracks or breaks, the wings will
get damaged. If you don't want to remove the wings from the plane, you
can unhitch them, swing them out a bit, and use foam underneath to secure
the top and bottom of the outboard ends to the trailer sides. Don't
forget to secure the tailwheel or it with slide into the wings on the
first turn. Another option is to keep the wings hitched and support the
fuselage tube in a cradle lined with foam or carpet secured to the bed of
the trailer. This last method is how I trailer mine to the local field.
Be very careful when hitching and unhitching those wings as they are very
prone to damage. If they are dropped or allowed to scrape on the pavement
it will be very visible when the plane is ready to fly. There are many
Firestar wings that have been damaged this way. Using foam canoe mounts
on the leading edge is very useful.
Ralph
Original Firestar
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:33:24 -0700 "Frank Pruitt" <fpruitt@earthlink.net>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Pruitt"
> <fpruitt@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am in the process of buying a 1990 Firestar. It is located in the
> State
> of Washington, and I live in Colorado. I also purchased a enclosed
> trailer
> to transport it in. My question is will I do any damage to the
> Firestar by
> transporting it 1200 miles with the wings folded? Should I remove
> the wings
> and fasten them somehow inside the trailer? I just want to be sure
> that I
> arrive in Colorado without damaging the plane. Any help in this
> matter
> would be greatly appreciated. I am to pick it up the 16th of
> January, so if
> I need to do anything special, I need to get started on it ASAP.
>
>
> Frank Pruitt
>
> fpruitt@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
I am spending much of my time now just trying to figure out what to do next on
my Mark IIIXtra. Maybe I can stir up some action on this list. Otherwise, I
will start my Lexan installation and fabric covering next.
First for Bill Futrell, have you moved to FL yet? I noticed your test message
on the board. My question to you is on attaching the Xtra doors. There are no
instructions on my plans on the hole drilling or hardware to connect the tabs
on the doors with the welded tubes on the fuselage. A second question for Bill
and Richard Pike, how did you handle the area of the bow between the top
of the windshield and the gap seal? Somewhere in the archives, a mention was
made of rubber strip and aluminum piece from Kolb to finish this area. I am planning
a fixed gap seal with some soundproofing under it (and behind the seats).
For Steven Green, I would like some more details on your aluminum fuel tank (could
you send me pictures?). Steven, you recently mentioned that you would get
the BRS VLS model instead of the canister if you had it to do over again. I
am wondering if there is any significant overall aerodynamic gain with the VLS,
since the engine just behind it is so "dirty". The VLS is slightly more expensive
and has a 4 year repack vs. 6 yrs for the canister. Since my gap seal
will be fixed like Richard Pike's, maybe I can make a fairing in front of the
canister and alongside the engine to have less drag. But then do you worry about
restricted airflow around the engine and overheating?
Thanks in advance,
Clay Stuart
Danville KY
2 yrs building
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| Subject: | Re: transporting a Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dallas Shepherd" <cen23954@centurytel.net>
Frank: What ever you do, don't take those wings off and lay them flat on the=0D
trailer. Doesn't work. The cradle on the fuselage is the best and
protection on=0D
the leading edge of the wings at the ends. I transported a challenger from=0D
Seattle to Arkansas and the vibration of the road worked everything loose =0D
as you couldn't put enough pressure on the wings without damaging them=0D
to counter the road vibration. Something big and spongy under the wheels=0D
boxed in will help too. Straps over the wheels or axels to hold them down
agains =0D
the foam helps a lot. Frequent checks as the vibration is really bad.
Lots =0D
of tie downs. =0D
Dallas Shepherd=0D
Norfork, Arkansas =0D
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From: kolb-list@matronics.com=0D
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: transporting a Firestar=0D
=0D
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com=0D
=0D
Frank,=0D
=0D
The problem with transporting the Firestar that great distance is the=0D
weight of the folded wings on the fiberglass or aluminum tailwheel rod.=0D
This supports the tailwheel and if it cracks or breaks, the wings will=0D
get damaged. If you don't want to remove the wings from the plane, you=0D
can unhitch them, swing them out a bit, and use foam underneath to secure=0D
the top and bottom of the outboard ends to the trailer sides. Don't=0D
forget to secure the tailwheel or it with slide into the wings on the=0D
first turn. Another option is to keep the wings hitched and support the=0D
fuselage tube in a cradle lined with foam or carpet secured to the bed of=0D
the trailer. This last method is how I trailer mine to the local field.=0D
Be very careful when hitching and unhitching those wings as they are very=0D
prone to damage. If they are dropped or allowed to scrape on the pavement=0D
it will be very visible when the plane is ready to fly. There are many=0D
Firestar wings that have been damaged this way. Using foam canoe mounts=0D
on the leading edge is very useful.=0D
=0D
Ralph=0D
Original Firestar=0D
=0D
=0D
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:33:24 -0700 "Frank Pruitt" <fpruitt@earthlink.net>=0D
writes:=0D
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Pruitt" =0D
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> =0D
> Hi,=0D
> =0D
> I am in the process of buying a 1990 Firestar. It is located in the =0D
> State=0D
> of Washington, and I live in Colorado. I also purchased a enclosed =0D
> trailer=0D
> to transport it in. My question is will I do any damage to the =0D
> Firestar by=0D
> transporting it 1200 miles with the wings folded? Should I remove =0D
> the wings=0D
> and fasten them somehow inside the trailer? I just want to be sure =0D
> that I=0D
> arrive in Colorado without damaging the plane. Any help in this =0D
> matter=0D
> would be greatly appreciated. I am to pick it up the 16th of =0D
> January, so if=0D
> I need to do anything special, I need to get started on it ASAP.=0D
> =0D
> =0D
> Frank Pruitt=0D
> =0D
> fpruitt@earthlink.net=0D
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| Subject: | Re: transporting a Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 1/5/03 11:56:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fpruitt@earthlink.net writes:
> . I think that I will do the
> fuselage tube cradle, as that would seem to protect the tailwheel assembly
>
> Frank
>
>
Don't do just the cradle; get a big roll of foam [I used an "egg-crate" foam
mattress]
& put it under the LE of the wings about 2' in front of the tailwheel to take
most of the load off the fold bracket.
Also, nail or screw 2 X 4 blocks front, back, & sides of the main wheels with
some strapping or ropes under the blocks & over the axle fittings to
immobilize the wheels.
Also, immobilize any "extras" such as boxes so they don't get against your
lovely Firestar & knock a hole in your wing [don't ask].
Don't drive too fast & check your load every 100 miles or so.
Good luck
Shack
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Winter flying fun |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
My daughter was visiting for the holiday and agreed to come out and shoot a few
pictures for me the other day, and heeeeeeere they are!
http://www.hiperlightaircraft.com/kolb/winter_fun
-Ken Fackler
Mark II / 503
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Well today was cool in the morning, about 40F, but it was nice by 9am. Bob
Spry (Challenger) and I flew down to Immokalee just to build some time, and
landed next to the Red Baron demo team. Four beautiful identical
Stearmans - they're down here the month of January practicing to go out on
the airshow circuit. We didn't stick around, but we're going to plan
another trip down and hope to see a show. Met Tom Irlbeck who flew in right
after us in a nice RV8, painted blue like a WWII Hellcat. Saw a Hummelbird
that was out getting it's picture taken, only the Ercoupe photo plane was
having a hard time catching it. All the while GA traffic was mixing it up
with an Airbike in the pattern who was landing in the grass in front of
runway 36. Everybody was watching out for everybody else and having a nice
time. I had to break off the gab session because I'm still trying to get to
40 hours, but it was a real nice visit. On the way north, Tom showed up on
my wing - wish I'd had my camera. We flew formation for a few minutes until
he got bored with slow flight, then he peeled off, circled around and raced
by me climbing out and doing a barrel roll for my entertainment, and his.
I took a detour over by the Florida Ridge Hang Gliding Park, just a few
miles east of Sundance, and the tug was out towing up gliders, and a few
were circling around in the first thermals of the day . I just circled
around and waved, and headed back home.
So the report for sunny south Florida is the weather's great and everybody
is out enjoying it while we can. I wish the same for all of you, wherever
you are.
Duncan
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
>
>
> > http://members.aol.com/uguribe/pic01.jpg
> >
> > Will Uribe
>
> Will/Gents:
>
> How's the flying weather in your neck of the woods
> this time of year?
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Rotax 532 mystery clearing somewhat |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
"Curioser and curioser said Alice..."
Pressure checked the crankcase - perfect.
Only thing left to check was the rotary valve timing, - guess what?
Did you know a Rotax 532 will still turn 4,700 RPM with the rotary valve
timing retarded 115 degrees? So now I know where the gremlin is hiding,
it's time to pull the cases open, examine the rotary valve shaft and gears
and figure out why and how the thing jumped time.
Anybody with any similar occurances?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
At 01:42 PM 1/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
>A
>second question for Bill and Richard Pike, how did you handle the area of
>the bow between the top of the windshield and the gap seal? Somewhere in
>the archives, a mention was made of rubber strip and aluminum piece from
>Kolb to finish this area. I am planning a fixed gap seal with some
>soundproofing under it (and behind the seats).
Not applicable to my current situation, but originally I used a rubber
molding channel, extended the windshield past the metal loop by about 3/4",
and glued on a rubber piece, Aircraft Spruce part # 05-01300, top of page
126 in the 2001-2002 catalog. It closed the gap up.
>
>Since my gap seal will be fixed like Richard Pike's, maybe I can make a
>fairing in front of the canister and alongside the engine to have less drag.
> But then do you worry about restricted airflow around the engine and
>overheating?
Make it out of balsa wood, use it to fair the air around the engine
smoothly. If it is a water cooled 582 or similar, don't worry about it,
cooling is from the radiator, not ambient airflow. As long as there is some
airflow, it will be fine. Be careful if you fully cowl it, the exhaust
gives off tons of heat, that is the only problem. My J-6 was fully cowled,
the big Rotax muffler was the only problem, the engine was fine fully
cowled, Vince Nicely's Rotax 582 Sonerai is fully cowled, very tight, and
cools great.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420p (420ldPoops)
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Clay Stuart
>Danville KY
>2 yrs building
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Winter flying fun |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
Ken Fackler,
Great pictures.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
N49KK, Kolb Kolbra, Jabiru 2200, 166 hours
http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
At 09:43 PM 1/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
>Hi guys, regarding alternative powerplants, my little suzuki putt putt
>will be flying this spring....the question is, will mine be the first
>kolb up
>with one or has someone beat me to it? -the race is on. -BB
>do not archive
I for one am anxious to see what that little Geo can do. Raven had a slick
set up with the engine mounted horizontal. Is that project still offered by
Raven?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
This is my 2nd test today. I seem to have been bumped from the List. Tried re-subscribing
this morning, but still no results, and my 1st test didn't come thru.
If I AM coming thru, could someone please email me off List ?? Thanks.
Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 01:57 PM 1/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>This is my 2nd test today. I seem to have been bumped from the
>List. Tried re-subscribing this morning, but still no results, and my 1st
>test didn't come thru. If I AM coming thru, could someone please email
>me off List ?? Thanks. Lar.
>
It's still not working Lar, but keep trying!!
>=====================================================================
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
I didn't get it either, Lar... Right after Possum didn't get it.... Hope
this helps...
Beauford
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
> At 01:57 PM 1/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> >This is my 2nd test today. I seem to have been bumped from the
> >List. Tried re-subscribing this morning, but still no results, and my
1st
> >test didn't come thru. If I AM coming thru, could someone please email
> >me off List ?? Thanks. Lar.
> >
>
>
> It's still not working Lar, but keep trying!!
>
> >=====================================================================
>
>
---
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> I didn't get it either, Lar... Right after Possum didn't get it.... Hope
> this helps...
> Beauford
Possum, Beauford, Ya'll:
Big Lar's gonna feel so much better now that you
all have hepped him out with his commo problem.
:-)
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Woody and kurious kolbers, yes, as far as I know--and a lie-down four
banger too. -Only one caveat, you would have to rig your own mount.
When I bought my redrive Jeron (Raven) persuaded me to use the
upright since they had everything designed and ready to go. Since both
versions stop about the same amount of air, the only advantage would be
a possible lower thrust line if you use a shorter prop. -BB
woody wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
>
>At 09:43 PM 1/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>>
>>Hi guys, regarding alternative powerplants, my little suzuki putt putt
>>will be flying this spring....the question is, will mine be the first
>>kolb up
>>with one or has someone beat me to it? -the race is on. -BB
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>
>
>I for one am anxious to see what that little Geo can do. Raven had a slick
>set up with the engine mounted horizontal. Is that project still offered by
>Raven?
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
Biglar--sumthin wrong w/ yer address! Tried you off line and bounced
BN
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| Subject: | Lightweight stove |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Lightweight Stove
While this application is intended for lightening equipment for camping it
is also extremely suitable for Ultra lights, or survival equipment, since
every ounce counts. My stove and pot with lid weighs in at 8.5 oz. The
stove burns Denatured Alcohol, and will burn for approximately 30 minutes on
one fluid ounce of fuel. Boiling 2 cups of water in eight minutes. That will
allow you to cook for instance "Top Ramen", or coffee for that matter. The
cost for this little jewel is $.10 cents. It is made by cutting two soda
cans and sticking them together. One is cut about a 1/8 inch from the
bottom. The other is cut about 2 inches from the bottom of the other can.
The smallest bottom is placed "bottom up" on a flat surface. ( I prefer to
"JB weld" the two together, to make sure that they do not leak) Then the
biggest "bottom" is placed "bottom up"over the first. Then pin holes are
punched around the edge of the upturned bottom, I use a thumb tack. A hole
is placed in the center of the upturned bottom for a filler hole. Make it
small enough that a screw can cut threads into it. This will allow you to
plug the filler hole after you have filled the stove. A piece of 1/4 inch
hardware cloth about two inches wide, a piece of "flashing" the same size,
two paper clips and you are in business.
The hardware cloth is coiled to fit the bottom of your pot, paper clips
hold it to size, the flashing is then put inside the circle to keep the wind
from blowing your flame all over. The pot sets on top of the hardware cloth,
with your stove inside the hardware cloth. Fill your stove, reinsert the
screw plug, pour the cavity on the top of the stove full of fuel, light it
up. The stove has to have the fuel heated for it to turn to vapor so that it
will light and burn. This is the function of the fuel on top. Once the fuel
is heated it will cause the vapor to come out the holes around the top and
make a nice hot cooking fire just like a regular gas stove. Once it has
started burning, you will have to let it burn out.
While I would like to tell you that I thought of the whole thing by
myself, that would be untrue. It is borrowed from a friend that helps the
Boy Scouts with their camping trips and activities. I do not know just where
it originates, but I do know a good thing when I see it. Try it you will be
amazed. You will notice that I "made" a jig to do my cuts. You can of course
do the cuts with a pair of scissors, however scoring the can with a
cardboard cutter until the can begins to separate is a much cleaner method.
JB Weld will alleviate this requirement however.
I will post pictures to the Photo share for those that would like to see it.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Suzuki power message of Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:56:14 |
-0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Mike,
Thanks for the nice compliment, I'll give you the $20 bucks next time
you're down this way!
Richard Swiderski
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike and Dixie Shackelford" <dixieshack@webtv.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Suzuki power message of Sat, 4 Jan 2003
23:56:14 -0800
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie
Shackelford)
>
> Hey, Bob....Richard Swiderki near Ocala, Florida is working on a
> Suzuki turbo for his Slingshot. His project is well underway with him
> doing all the alterations and fabbing sysems to make it workable. Check
> the archives .....may want to compare notes.
> He's a top-notch guy.
>
> Mike in WV
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Winter flying fun |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
Nice pics Ken. If I may make a suggestion crop and enlarge the important
parts of the pic before posting them. It is a lot easier and faster for us
dial up modem guys to see them. I'll have to get over and see your Kolb in
person some day
At 03:48 PM 1/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
>My daughter was visiting for the holiday and agreed to come out and shoot
>a few pictures for me the other day, and heeeeeeere they are!
>
>http://www.hiperlightaircraft.com/kolb/winter_fun
>
>-Ken Fackler
>Mark II / 503
>Rochester MI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
At 08:25 PM 1/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
>Woody and kurious kolbers, yes, as far as I know--and a lie-down four
>banger too. -Only one caveat, you would have to rig your own mount.
>When I bought my redrive Jeron (Raven) persuaded me to use the
>upright since they had everything designed and ready to go. Since both
>versions stop about the same amount of air, the only advantage would be
>a possible lower thrust line if you use a shorter prop. -BB
I think the lie down 4 just looks "neater". What was your total cost to
get this drive system ready to go?
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| Subject: | Re: Lightweight stove |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: RWilliJill@aol.com
Larry
I would like to see a picture of this device.
Were do I access photoshare?
Thanks
Ron W
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce L Borg <blborg@juno.com>
blborg
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce L Borg <blborg@juno.com>
Vic Worthington, would you please contact me off list again. Lost all
your info after switch ing e-mail providers
Thanks
do not archive
Bruce Borg
blborg@juno.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Bob,
I just finished the motor mounts except for the filing & polishing.
Still have the radiator to convert from a Cadilac AC condensor & then figure
out where to mount it (or possibly them) as well as the intercooler, oil
cooler & cabin heat. Also have mount the wastgate, airmass sensor, build a
wire harness & airscoop/filter. Then there's the cg test. I'm hoping to
come in under 175# wet & ready to run. I will know shortly. Rather than
add a prop extention & deal with its possible nightmares, I elected to move
the engine 4" back, which then also allowed me to build sump oil tank that
hangs off the rear of the engine. It catches all the oil from the motor &
uses an external hose to return oil to pump. This allowed me to get away
with only 2" clearance between deck of block & Kolb motor mount. Anyway, as
nothing is free when you are having fun changing things, I might have to
relocate the BRS into a modified nose or if push come to shove, I stretch
the cabin 6" & end up with a KolbraSlingShot thingy.
So Bob if I can get a bet going on who will fly a Suzuki Kolb 1st, I'm
gonna put my quarter on you. Spring is my very best case scenario but
Murphy lurkes in the rafters & shadows of my shop. I thank God for the big
gains I've made in my health. I worked 4hrs straight today before I pooped
out. That was 300% increase over what I could do last month, so its looking
good. If my pace continues to pick up then you may want to change your
bets.
Speaking of bets, Im gonna put all my winnings into the
Big-Lar-Will-He-Finish-It pool. I'm picking the winter of 2009. I always
wanted to be rich so we've got to sell it to all on this list. Being the
trustworthy gentlman that I am, I will hold all the $2 bets, and since we
know nothings going to happen for a very very long time, I'll invest the pot
in long term mutual funds & buy me a ready to fly Kolb. Please do not copy
this idea because it came to me 1st right here!
Richard Swiderski
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: geo
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Hi guys, regarding alternative powerplants, my little suzuki putt putt
> will be flying this spring....the question is, will mine be the first
> kolb up
> with one or has someone beat me to it? -the race is on. -BB
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
A few of us went for a fruitshake via ultralight today to "Robert is
Here <http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/001.jpg> "
Had to land in a dirt field and taxi through ploughed fields to get to
the place.
http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/005.jpg
http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/006.jpg
Kolb to Kolb pics taken on the way home:
http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/008.jpg
http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/010.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Lightweight stove |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> Larry
> I would like to see a picture of this device.
> Were do I access photoshare?
>
>
> Thanks
> Ron W
>
I just posted them to the photo share tonight. They should show up soon, or
if you can't wait I can email them to you off list. I have reduced them to
email size.
Larry
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
Richard S/Gents:
Isn't this your old Ultrastar? The one I
affectionately refer to as the Stork? Sure looks
like it. :-)
http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/006.jpg
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>>
>>
>>
For my 1 liter 3 cyl, about $3000 total including the cut down
pan /dry sump, remote tank, mounts, redrive, exhaust, bought
separately-carb,
radiator. Raven strongly recommends the geo fuel injection and they're
right.
It's just that I'm a knothead and had to design a carb system of my own.
I don't have any illusions about it being a super powerhouse, I don't need
that. Just a nice easy starting, smooth running , very reliable and low
maintenance mill. Once it's finished I just want to fly, not fix.-BB
>>
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> I think the lie down 4 just looks "neater". What was your total cost to
>get this drive system ready to go?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
This spring ?? Hmmmm...............where've I heard THAT before ??
Procrastinator Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: geo
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Hi guys, regarding alternative powerplants, my little suzuki putt putt
> will be flying this spring....the question is, will mine be the first
> kolb up
> with one or has someone beat me to it? -the race is on. -BB
> do not archive
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