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1. 12:02 AM - Re: Winter flying fun (Larry Bourne)
2. 12:21 AM - Re: Test (Larry Bourne)
3. 12:22 AM - Re: Test (Larry Bourne)
4. 12:47 AM - Vamoose On-Going (Larry Bourne)
5. 02:38 AM - Most days good flying weather (WillUribe@aol.com)
6. 03:09 AM - Re: Most days good flying weather (WillUribe@aol.com)
7. 04:52 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 40 Msgs - 01/05/03 (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
8. 05:49 AM - Facet Pump (Wood, John T.)
9. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 40 Msgs - 01/05/03 message of Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:56:25 -0800 (Peter Volum)
10. 06:13 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Bob Bean)
11. 06:27 AM - Oil injection (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
12. 06:33 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Richard Pike)
13. 06:50 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Terry)
14. 06:54 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Peter Volum)
15. 07:21 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Peter Volum)
16. 07:38 AM - Re: Oil injection ()
17. 08:58 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Richard Pike)
18. 09:08 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Terry)
19. 09:43 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Wood, John T.)
20. 09:44 AM - Re: Facet Pump (John Hauck)
21. 10:40 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Bill Futrell)
22. 10:40 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Terry)
23. 10:41 AM - Re: Facet Pump (John Hauck)
24. 10:42 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Bill Futrell)
25. 10:57 AM - Re: Facet Pump (Peter Volum)
26. 11:45 AM - Aileron and flap hinges (Richard Neitzel)
27. 12:50 PM - Re: Facet Pump (SR3SA2L1@aol.com)
28. 01:06 PM - Re: Facet Pump (John Hauck)
29. 01:14 PM - Re: Facet Pump (Bob Bean)
30. 03:20 PM - Re: Aileron and flap hinges (Don Gherardini)
31. 04:31 PM - Paul Poberezny Visit (Fackler, Ken)
32. 04:46 PM - Re: Facet Pump (Duncan McBride)
33. 04:52 PM - to Will (Paul Petty)
34. 05:25 PM - Re: Facet Pump (Richard Pike)
35. 07:03 PM - Re: Vamoose On-Going (woody)
36. 07:18 PM - Re: UltraStar Wing Mod (Richard Swiderski)
37. 07:32 PM - Re: The Stork (Richard Swiderski)
38. 07:44 PM - Re: Aileron and flap hinges (woody)
39. 07:52 PM - Re: The Stork (John Hauck)
40. 08:06 PM - Ivo prop repair (Timandjan@aol.com)
41. 08:10 PM - Re: The Stork (Peter Volum)
42. 08:32 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (Hugh)
43. 09:05 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (bob n)
44. 09:17 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (jerb)
45. 09:41 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (John Hauck)
46. 09:53 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Winter flying fun |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Great Pics ! ! !.....................but am I ever glad I'm in Palm
Springs.....................until next summer, of course.
Brrrrrrrrr.............. Been There Done That Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Winter flying fun
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> My daughter was visiting for the holiday and agreed to come out and shoot
a few pictures for me the other day, and heeeeeeere they are!
>
> http://www.hiperlightaircraft.com/kolb/winter_fun
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I was just reaching for the "send" button on my original reply, and, for
once I looked at the out-going address. Am I glad I did ! ! !
Pheee--eeewww ! ! ! Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
> At 01:57 PM 1/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> >This is my 2nd test today. I seem to have been bumped from the
> >List. Tried re-subscribing this morning, but still no results, and my
1st
> >test didn't come thru. If I AM coming thru, could someone please email
> >me off List ?? Thanks. Lar.
> >
>
>
> It's still not working Lar, but keep trying!!
>
> >=====================================================================
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, you too. My buddies..............................???? Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
>
>
> > I didn't get it either, Lar... Right after Possum didn't get it....
Hope
> > this helps...
> > Beauford
>
> Possum, Beauford, Ya'll:
>
> Big Lar's gonna feel so much better now that you
> all have hepped him out with his commo problem.
> :-)
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Vamoose On-Going |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Oh Mercy...............now even my buddy Richard's pickin' on me. The shame
! ! ! There IS a ray of hope, tho'. Today, I finished re-assembling my
re-drive, and posted 4 pics to photoshare, detailing the differences.
Whenever Matt gets around to publishing them, I'll write a better
explanation of what's what on them. Today I ran into an interesting
little problem to add to the gremlins that have been after me on my
computer. Richard, be glad you've only got Murphy in the rafters &
shadows...................for me, he's hangin' over my shoulder. The
(latest) problem: the modified drive components came with 4 specially
machined socket head 3/8-24 screws to hold part of the spline ass'y to the
engine. They're just 1/8" longer than the originals, so needed to run the
threads a little deeper into the blind holes in the end of the crankshaft to
compensate. That neat
$%*#@ Chinese tap is just .002 larger than standard,
and when I felt it get tight in the 1st hole, I stopped, and started
checking. Glad I did ! ! ! This is one place where maximum strength is of
utmost importance, and sloppy threads don't get it. Tomorrow, I'll take the
old tap, a bolt, and the micrometer, and start hunting thru the hardware
stores. All going well, (???) there'll be fire in the hole next weekend.
GoGittum Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: geo
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
<swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
> Bob,
> Speaking of bets, Im gonna put all my winnings into the
> Big-Lar-Will-He-Finish-It pool. I'm picking the winter of 2009. I always
> wanted to be rich so we've got to sell it to all on this list. Being the
> trustworthy gentlman that I am, I will hold all the $2 bets, and since we
> know nothings going to happen for a very very long time, I'll invest the
pot
> in long term mutual funds & buy me a ready to fly Kolb. Please do not copy
> this idea because it came to me 1st right here!
> Richard Swiderski
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Most days good flying weather |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/03/03
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
>
>
> > http://members.aol.com/uguribe/pic01.jpg
> >
> > Will Uribe
>
> Will/Gents:
>
> How's the flying weather in your neck of the woods
> this time of year?
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
Hi John,
It has been good flying weather for the last two weeks of my vacation. It was
windy on Sunday with a cross wind. On the first landing I bounced it a
couple of times so I decided to park it and help install the doors on the
Mississippi trip, my holiday vacations are now history, back to work.
Raul like always was flying his FireStar all day until one of the guys in the
soaring club invited him to go glider flying. I think they just wanted to
get his FireStar out of the traffice pattern ;-)
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Most days good flying weather |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
> Hi John,
> It has been good flying weather for the last two weeks of my vacation. It
was
> windy on Sunday with a cross wind.=A0 On the first landing I bounced it a
> couple of times so I decided to park it and help install the doors on the
> Mississippi trip, my holiday vacations are now history, back to work.
> Raul like always was flying his FireStar all day until one of the guys in
the
> soaring club invited him to go glider flying.=A0 I think they just wanted=20to
> get his FireStar out of the traffice pattern ;-)
One of Matt's programs must have cut out some of the text I wrote, let me try
again. Must be the way I wrote xair, I'll change it.
Hi John,
It has been good flying weather for the last two weeks of my vacation. It was
windy on Sunday with a cross wind.=A0 On the first landing I bounced it a
couple of times so I decided to park it and help install the doors on the
XAir.=A0 I couldn't stay late because I had to get ready for my two week
Mississippi trip, my holiday vacations are now history, back to work.
Raul like always was flying his FireStar all day until one of the guys in the
soaring club invited him to go glider flying.=A0 I think they just wanted to
get his FireStar out of the traffice pattern ;-)
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 40 Msgs - 01/05/03 |
message of Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:56:25 -0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
Hey, Peter, were those pictures taken around Homestead? Sorta looks
familiar.
Mike in WV
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem is
no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
John Wood
Firestar N670JW
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 40 Msgs - 01/05/03 message |
of Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:56:25 -0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Yes Mike, they were.
Peter
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike and
Dixie Shackelford
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 40 Msgs - 01/05/03 message of
Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:56:25 -0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie
Shackelford)
Hey, Peter, were those pictures taken around Homestead? Sorta looks
familiar.
Mike in WV
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
John, when the facet comes up to pressure, it will stop clicking or click
just occasionally. Is that what yours is doing? Also, there are different
models with different cut-out pressures. Check which one you have.
-BB do not archive
Wood, John T. wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>
>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem is
>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>
>John Wood
>Firestar N670JW
>
>
>
>
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01/06/2003 08:26:11 AM,
Serialize complete at 01/06/2003 08:26:11 AM,
Itemize by SMTP Server on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002)
at
01/06/2003 08:26:53 AM,
Serialize by Router on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at
01/06/2003
08:26:56 AM,
Serialize complete at 01/06/2003 08:26:56 AM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com
Does anyone out there have a complete oil injection system laying around
that they would want to part with? I have a 377 and would like to get
away from mixing gas and oil.
The Flying Farmer
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>
>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem is
>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>
>John Wood
>Firestar N670JW
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>
>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem
is
>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>
>John Wood
>Firestar N670JW
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
John, do you have the pump installed below the fuel tank?
If I remember correctly, when I installed mine that was one of the
installation requirements.
I think that air in the line BEFORE the pump can be a problem, but after
the pump they shouldn't be. At least, in my set-up air in the line
after the pump hasn't impeded the flow.
Peter
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T."
<woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My
problem is
no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
Carburetor.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
My fuel tank exits from the top, but the fuel line then goes down to
below the base of the tank before entering the pump. This ensures the
required positive (gravity fed) pressure to the pump at all times.
Provided the line remains primed, it makes no difference if your line
comes out of the top or bottom of the tank. IMHO, if you use plastic
tanks, top is better than bottom as it eliminates the chance of leakage.
Peter Volum
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity
fed.
If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T."
<woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>
>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My
problem is
>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears
to
>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system
may
>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet
replace
>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb
in
>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>
>John Wood
>Firestar N670JW
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <dama@mindspring.com>
I have a pump from a 503 that has never been used. Give me an email at
dama@mindspring.com for more deatls.
Thanks,
Kip
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep the
flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
before it starts to work?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:55 AM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
>
>I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
>exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
>
>Terry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
>The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
>If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>>
>>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem
>is
>>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>>
>>John Wood
>>Firestar N670JW
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
I think it will. I don't remember priming the lines the first time I fired
mine up and I have never run it out of gas, thank goodness. I did change
the plumbing one time, so I had the lines disconnected and I didn't do
anything special to get it pumping again.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep the
flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
before it starts to work?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:55 AM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
>
>I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
>exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
>
>Terry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
>The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
>If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>>
>>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem
>is
>>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>>
>>John Wood
>>Firestar N670JW
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
Thanks for the responses to my Facet problem. I have tried the pump both
above and below the tank and it still did not work. That is what prompted me
to seek advise from the experts. Based on your responses it seems that I
might have a bad pump. I purchaed the lowest pressure pump. Maybe I need
more pressure to overcome the air in the lines?
John Wood
Firestar N670JW
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:tswartz@hydrosoft.net]
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
I think it will. I don't remember priming the lines the first time I fired
mine up and I have never run it out of gas, thank goodness. I did change
the plumbing one time, so I had the lines disconnected and I didn't do
anything special to get it pumping again.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep the
flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
before it starts to work?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:55 AM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
>
>I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
>exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
>
>Terry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
>The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
>If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>>
>>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem
>is
>>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>>
>>John Wood
>>Firestar N670JW
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> I think it will. I don't remember priming the lines the first time I fired
> Terry
Terry/Gang:
I use and have used the Facet pump in several
applications:
Rotax 447 (auxilary)
582 "
912 "
912S "
Onan 4 kw generator (primary)
Ford 351W marine engine (auxilary)
All have been self priming. The Onan pulls fuel
from an aux tank in the front of my Dodge/Cummins
truck bed to the rear where the Onan is
permanently installed. No problems with any of
them other than salt water corrosion in the boat
and that was because of the location I picked out
to install it. Lesson learned. :-)
Don't buy a no name look alike product from JC
Whitney and expect it to perform like a Facet. I
have already done that and learned the hard way.
Facet also sells under the Purolator brand name.
john h (Got out and exercised Miss P'fer this
weekend. 1.4 hrs Sat and 4.1 hours Sun. Felt
good!)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Futrell" <Bill-Jo@prodigy.net>
When I installed my Facet it would not pick up the prime [and it is
mounted below the tanks] until I took the line off at the engine driven fuel
pump.Then it picked up the fuel ok and have not had problem since. Pull the
line off at the engine until the pump and lines are primed and you will be
ok.
Bill Futrell
Do Not Archive----- Original Message -----
From: Wood, John T. <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>
> Thanks for the responses to my Facet problem. I have tried the pump both
> above and below the tank and it still did not work. That is what prompted
me
> to seek advise from the experts. Based on your responses it seems that I
> might have a bad pump. I purchaed the lowest pressure pump. Maybe I need
> more pressure to overcome the air in the lines?
>
> John Wood
> Firestar N670JW
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry [mailto:tswartz@hydrosoft.net]
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
>
> I think it will. I don't remember priming the lines the first time I
fired
> mine up and I have never run it out of gas, thank goodness. I did change
> the plumbing one time, so I had the lines disconnected and I didn't do
> anything special to get it pumping again.
>
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
> OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
> Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep the
> flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
> before it starts to work?
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> At 09:55 AM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
> >
> >I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
> >exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
> >
> >Terry
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
> >
> >
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
> >
> >The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
> >If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
> >
> >Richard Pike
> >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
> >
> >At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T."
<woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
> >>
> >>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My
problem
> >is
> >>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
> >>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears
to
> >>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system
may
> >>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet
replace
> >>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb
in
> >>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
> >>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
> >>
> >>John Wood
> >>Firestar N670JW
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
Stay with the low pressure so you don't overpower the float valve.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wood, John T.
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
Thanks for the responses to my Facet problem. I have tried the pump both
above and below the tank and it still did not work. That is what prompted me
to seek advise from the experts. Based on your responses it seems that I
might have a bad pump. I purchaed the lowest pressure pump. Maybe I need
more pressure to overcome the air in the lines?
John Wood
Firestar N670JW
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:tswartz@hydrosoft.net]
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
I think it will. I don't remember priming the lines the first time I fired
mine up and I have never run it out of gas, thank goodness. I did change
the plumbing one time, so I had the lines disconnected and I didn't do
anything special to get it pumping again.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep the
flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
before it starts to work?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:55 AM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
>
>I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
>exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
>
>Terry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
>The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
>If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>>
>>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem
>is
>>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>>
>>John Wood
>>Firestar N670JW
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> I purchaed the lowest pressure pump. Maybe I need
> more pressure to overcome the air in the lines?
>
> John Wood
John W/Gents:
I am no Facet expert, but pressure regulation does
not seem to be your problem.
If you are unsure about the pump, pull it out,
plumb it with a pick up and discharge hose. Wire
it up and see if, in fact it will pump fuel. You
can raise it and lower it depending on how much
hose you plumb to it for your experiment.
I assume the pump is operating (getting the
rattatatta noise) but not self priming and pumping
fuel from the discharge line.
Someone indicated the pump would shut off when it
reached the regulated pressure. None of my Facets
shut down at that point. They continue to operate
even after reaching regulated pressure point.
Make sure you have not air leaks in your lines.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Futrell" <Bill-Jo@prodigy.net>
Richard I have my fuel line coming out the top of the tank with the pump
below the tank and it will work ok,just open the line out the engine until
the lines are primed and you are ok.
Bill Futrell
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
> OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
> Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep the
> flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
> before it starts to work?
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> At 09:55 AM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
> >
> >I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
> >exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
> >
> >Terry
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
> >
> >
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
> >
> >The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
> >If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
> >
> >Richard Pike
> >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
> >
> >At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T."
<woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
> >>
> >>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My
problem
> >is
> >>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
> >>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears
to
> >>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system
may
> >>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet
replace
> >>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb
in
> >>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
> >>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
> >>
> >>John Wood
> >>Firestar N670JW
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
I didn't have to prime the first time on my set-up either. Even if the
auxiliary Facet pump wasn't self-priming, wouldn't the fuel line
self-prime as a result of the main pump doing its work during the
initial cranking? This may take some time the first time, but after
that the lines would remain primed and the Facet pump would do its job
from the start.
Before changing pumps to a higher pressure model make sure you check the
engine manual so you don't exceed the maximum pressure it is designed to
work with. You don't want gas to start spewing out.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
I think it will. I don't remember priming the lines the first time I
fired
mine up and I have never run it out of gas, thank goodness. I did
change
the plumbing one time, so I had the lines disconnected and I didn't do
anything special to get it pumping again.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep
the
flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
before it starts to work?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Aileron and flap hinges |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Neitzel" <neitzel@newnorth.net>
Greetings
I am in the process of mating the ailerons and flaps to the recently completed
wings. The manual on the subject seems straight forward but does anyone have
any hints that will aid in the needed accuracy of hinge placement?
Thank you ahead of time.
Dick Neitzel
Sayner WI
Mark III
neitzel@newnorth.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: SR3SA2L1@aol.com
John and All,
You may want to consider adding a pressure regulator to your fuel system when
you are adding an electric aux fuel pump.
Steve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> You may want to consider adding a pressure regulator to your fuel system when
> you are adding an electric aux fuel pump.
>
> Steve
Steve/Gents:
I personally have not found a pressure regulator
necessary in any of the applications I have used
the Facet as an aux pump.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
John, I like the ratatata description....first time I used mine I just stuck
the suction line in a jerry can on the ground. It sucked fine with no prime.
I have a napa regulator after it which I am not sure I will leave in - it's
heavy pot metal, just another source of failure, and possibly not necessary.
Decisions, decisions. -BB , momentum shot to hell do not archive
Richard Pike wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
>OK, I obviously missed it on that one - question:
>Will the Facet draw the fuel up, over and down to itself and then keep the
>flow going, or does it need to have fuel in the lines to itself (primed)
>before it starts to work?
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>At 09:55 AM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
>>
>>I have a Facet on my MK III mounted below the gas tanks and my fuel lines
>>exit from the top of the tank. It has worked fine from day one.
>>
>>Terry
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
>>
>>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>>
>>The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
>>If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
>>
>>Richard Pike
>>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>
>>
>>At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
>>>
>>>I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem
>>>
>>>
>>is
>>
>>
>>>no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
>>>Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
>>>push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
>>>keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
>>>the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
>>>pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
>>>archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
>>>
>>>John Wood
>>>Firestar N670JW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron and flap hinges |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Dick,
Take a look at how I did it on the wing attachment page of my web site...it
is page 3 or 4.
To get the 3 hinges EXACTLY even with each other on my firefly, I made some
tblocks of aluminum, with a hole the size of the hinge pin just where the
print calls for it. Then cut an extra long section of hinge pin and stick it
thru the hinge, and the "t block"..this was you keep the prescribed distance
from the trailing edge to the aileron and they all 3 will be just right.
when I was finished, those hinges moved like they were on
bearings....perfect, with no a hint of binding.
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini
Firefly 098
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| Subject: | Paul Poberezny Visit |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
For any of you Listers in or near SE Michigan this week:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy Toelle" <ttoelle@eaa.org>
Subject: Paul Poberezny Visit
EAA Chapter 1413 proudly presents:
PAUL POBEREZNY
For 30 years he said "airplane, sir" as he served his country as a pilot,
flight instructor and mechanic. He holds all seven military pilot wings. The
roots of EAA began with Paul's collection of airplane parts from crashes and
junked aircraft, which he turned into a museum in the family basement. EAA's
first fly-in was in Milwaukee in 1953. Paul served as president until 1989,
when he was named chairman of the board. During that time, EAA had grown
from a basement operation into a worldwide organization with more than
100,000 members. Paul has more than 30,000 flight hours in over 400 types of
aircraft, including more than 170 homebuilts and 15 of his own design.
Saturday, July 24, 1999 Paul was inducted into the National Aviation Hall Of
Fame in Dayton, Ohio.
Thursday January 9, 2003 - 7:30pm
Michigan Aviation
Oakland County International Airport
PLEASE JOIN US FOR THIS HISTORIC NIGHT
For more information please e-mail mikeo@eaaptk.org
Or visit our website at www.eaaptk.org
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I have a facet pump that sits even with the bottom of the plastic tanks. I
run the line out the top of the tanks and down in a loop below the bottom of
the tanks and into the pump. From there the line goes up about 30 inches to
the mechanical pump. It primed the mechanical pump and carbs just fine.
With the gas turned off ( valve between the tank and the facet pump) the
facet clicks pretty loud - when I turn on the gas it clicks quieter until
the pressure comes up then it gets a little quieter still, but you can still
hear it ok. Have you disconnected the fuel line between teh carbs and the
mechanical pump to see if the facet is pumping fuel through the mechanical
pump?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@preferred.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
>
> The Facet needs to be at the lowest point in the system, and gravity fed.
> If your fuel line exits your tank from the top, you may be up the creek.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> At 05:49 AM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <woodjt@spawar.navy.mil>
> >
> >I purchased a Facet pump to supplement the Rotax's pulse pump. My problem
is
> >no matter where I locate the pump it will not prime the lines to the
> >Carburetor. In a test of the pump outside the system, the pump appears to
> >push the gas just fine. The instructions talk about air in the system may
> >keep the pump from priming. If this is the case how can the facet replace
> >the squeeze bulb? How does the facet pump differ from the squeeze bulb in
> >pushing the fuel through the air filled lines? I have check out the
> >archives. Did not find a solution to my question.
> >
> >John Wood
> >Firestar N670JW
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@C-GATE.NET>
Hi Will, Tried to e-mail you directly but no response. When do you plan to visit
Mississippi? And what part? I am in central MS.
pp....
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
At 04:16 PM 1/6/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
>John, I like the ratatata description...<snip>
>I have a napa regulator after it which I am not sure I will leave in - it's
>heavy pot metal, just another source of failure, and possibly not necessary.
>Decisions, decisions. -BB , momentum shot to hell do not archive
I use my Facet to fed the Mikuni pump, got rid of the pressure regulator,
everything is happy. The facet I use puts out about 2-3 pounds pressure.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Vamoose On-Going |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
>
>
>$%*#@ Chinese tap is just .002 larger than standard,
>and when I felt it get tight in the 1st hole, I stopped, and started
>checking. Glad I did ! ! ! This is one place where maximum strength is of
>utmost importance, and sloppy threads don't get it.
Gosh Lar I would have just got the old hacksaw out (new blade) and just
hacked an eighth off the end of each bolt and touched it up with a file.
Perhaps just grinding the threads off the first eighth on an inch would be
enough. Probably 5 minutes each.
I got faith in ya pal. Put me down for late summer of 04 for first flight.
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| Subject: | Re: UltraStar Wing Mod |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Ed,
I looked into the options of stiffening my ol US wings also. The
trailing edge tube is only .028" thick. It probably wouldn't take the
stress. John's suggestion about stiffening the inboard edge of the main
spar is what I did. It made such a huge difference that I didn't even
consider doing anything more. I described the process in the archives. If
you can't find them, call me, 352-307-9009
Regarding landing gear, I found that large diameter, thin wall chromemoly
steel tubing with a bungie cord supension was the lightest way to go & still
have the strength you need. They were abused & kept comming.back for more
You can see it at the website John posted
http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/006.jpg. also checkout the nose
job, It weighed only a coupl of lbs as it was out of stitz & thin aluminum
tube
They were abused & kept comming.back for more
>>>> I have decided to attempt to stiffin the wings due to the warpage
created by the ailerons....I am thinking of adding a lift strut to the rear
"spar" and adding some reinforcment to the full ribs.....any ideas? Of
coarse, I am trying to keep the weight down but may have created a "fat one"
already with Azusa brakes and modified landing gear with fiberglass 1.25
inch rods. To stay legal I may have to forget all instruments except engine
gauges and forget the fiberglass nose fairing. The new seat tank is heavy
too , and with 6 gallons the legal issue is comprimised anyway.......
Ed in Western NY
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Hey John,
thats' quite a piece of history you found! Its definitely my old bird . It
just doesn't seem right that she is making an other pilot as happy as she
made me . I think the feeling is called jealousy. I guess I'll just not
look at her & see iff that helps.
John, where is this picture taken? Is he an active pilot? I lost track
of him, Last I heard he was down miami way. Sentimental Richard
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
>
> Richard S/Gents:
>
> Isn't this your old Ultrastar? The one I
> affectionately refer to as the Stork? Sure looks
> like it. :-)
>
> http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/006.jpg
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron and flap hinges |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
At 05:25 PM 1/6/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
>Dick,
>Take a look at how I did it on the wing attachment page of my web site...it
>is page 3 or 4.
>
>
>http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>Don Gherardini
>Firefly 098
Great workmanship and great web site. Kinda puts my rude and crude ways
to shame.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> John, where is this picture taken? Is he an active pilot? I lost track
> of him, Last I heard he was down miami way. Sentimental Richard
Richard/Gents;
Know what you mean. 15 years ago I was chasing
that little Ultrastar around the Gator Ultralight
Strip with my little Firestar.
Richard didn't know I existed. I tailed him for
15 minutes, then let him see me. I might add, I
was right on his tail too. He was flying around
the area north of the field. There was an antenna
tower up there. In the area where HWY 27 and the
interstate interset, IIRC.
I was flying from Alabama to Miami in Nov 1987,
and return. A 1,500 mile flight, round trip. My
first extra long flight. A couple weeks prior, I
had flown from Alabama to Lake City, FL, for the
North Florida Airshow. That was my first
overnight flight. Was a test to see if I had
everything I needed to get the job done. That was
about a 600 mile round trip.
Those two flights were the beginning of many more
ultralight flights over the years. At that time I
had no idea that I would ever fly to Alaska. Six
years later I landed at Dead Horse/Prudoe Bay,
Alaska. Still amazes me...............
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
I have been chatting with Ivo prop about repairing a chip in my prop blade.
They said the best is to use a polyester resin for the repair. I a
wondering if anybody out there has advice/experience on how to use and buy a
polyster resin. How is it purchased? I am familiar with epoxy and fiberglass
resin, but when they say a polyetser resin, what exactly do they mean? Maybe
the fiberglass resin is just that??
Thanks
Tim
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Hi Richard - Peter here. I took that photo last Sunday. I run the LAFA
(Light Aircraft Flyers Association) web site in Miami.
Your old flame is now owned by Bob Musgrove whom we affectionately call
Cap'n Bob in our club. He is a retired 747 pilot, our club mentor, and
with about 26,000 hours of flying experience, a source of very valuable
information and insight.
Let me assure you that your ex is in very capable hands. Bob does
things with that plane that I've never seen anybody else do, yet he's as
quiet and unassuming a person as you could ever hope to meet.
You will see a lot more photos of him and your (his) Kolb on the photo
pages of our club's web site http://www.lafa.com/PhotosEvents.htm
I also wrote a brief summary about our little escapade on Sunday here:
http://www.lafa.com/RobertIsHere.htm (which includes the photo that John
sent you).
Did you sell your plane to Bob directly? Or did somebody else own her
in-between?
I'm meeting with him at the airport on Wednesday. He isn't into
computers, but if you have a message for him, I'll be glad to pass it
on.
Peter
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Swiderski
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Stork
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
<swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Hey John,
thats' quite a piece of history you found! Its definitely my old bird .
It
just doesn't seem right that she is making an other pilot as happy as
she
made me . I think the feeling is called jealousy. I guess I'll just
not
look at her & see iff that helps.
John, where is this picture taken? Is he an active pilot? I lost
track
of him, Last I heard he was down miami way. Sentimental Richard
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
>
> Richard S/Gents:
>
> Isn't this your old Ultrastar? The one I
> affectionately refer to as the Stork? Sure looks
> like it. :-)
>
> http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/006.jpg
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" <hmhumes@attbi.com>
My experience with fiberglass and resin is woodenboat related. There's two
resins that are used with fiberglass. One is epoxy and the other is
polyester. Poly is cheaper but it doesn't stick to wood as well and isn't
impervious to water like epoxy is. The bad rap that fiberglass covered
wooden boats get is due mostly to poly resin delaminating from the wood.
Did IVO specifically say not to use epoxy? From what I've read on the boat
building websites you can put epoxy over polyester but NOT the other way
around. I wonder if epoxy weighs more the poly. Maybe a weight/balance
problem? I'd think it would have to be a pretty big "chip" to throw the
weight off.
Just thinking out loud...
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Ivo prop repair
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
>
> I have been chatting with Ivo prop about repairing a chip in my prop
blade.
> They said the best is to use a polyester resin for the repair. I a
> wondering if anybody out there has advice/experience on how to use and buy
a
> polyster resin. How is it purchased? I am familiar with epoxy and
fiberglass
> resin, but when they say a polyetser resin, what exactly do they mean?
Maybe
> the fiberglass resin is just that??
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
How about the old baking soda and crazy glue repair? Hasn't it been
discussed on this list in the past? Or maybe it was FLY-UL? Good for
small nicks, don't know how big is the nick in question.
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Actually there are three resins commonly used in the home built aircraft,
Epoxy, Polyester, and Vinyl Ester. There are two types of Polyester resin,
one which contains wax for single coat or the finishing layup. The wax
rises to the surface and facilities sanding. The other does not contain
any wax and stay a little tacky. It is used for multiple layups (layers) -
last layup would use the one which contains wax to allow finish
sanding. See Aircraft Spruce - they can provide you with the correct
material for your application. A small quart kit will cost around $20.
How big of nick do you have? I have heard of using baking soda mixed with
super glue as a filler for small nicks. If you have a larger especially
deep nick better use the resin.
Below is the web site link I have for them - it appeared to be down at this
time, try it later and see what happens.
http://www.aircraft-spruce.com/
jerb
At 08:29 PM 1/6/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" <hmhumes@attbi.com>
>
>My experience with fiberglass and resin is woodenboat related. There's two
>resins that are used with fiberglass. One is epoxy and the other is
>polyester. Poly is cheaper but it doesn't stick to wood as well and isn't
>impervious to water like epoxy is. The bad rap that fiberglass covered
>wooden boats get is due mostly to poly resin delaminating from the wood.
>
>Did IVO specifically say not to use epoxy? From what I've read on the boat
>building websites you can put epoxy over polyester but NOT the other way
>around. I wonder if epoxy weighs more the poly. Maybe a weight/balance
>problem? I'd think it would have to be a pretty big "chip" to throw the
>weight off.
>
>Just thinking out loud...
>Hugh
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Ivo prop repair
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
> >
> > I have been chatting with Ivo prop about repairing a chip in my prop
>blade.
> > They said the best is to use a polyester resin for the repair. I a
> > wondering if anybody out there has advice/experience on how to use and buy
>a
> > polyster resin. How is it purchased? I am familiar with epoxy and
>fiberglass
> > resin, but when they say a polyetser resin, what exactly do they mean?
>Maybe
> > the fiberglass resin is just that??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> If you have a larger especially
> deep nick better use the resin.
> Below is the web site link I have for them - it appeared to be down at this
> time, try it later and see what happens.
> http://www.aircraft-spruce.com/
> jerb
Jerb/Gents:
Think I'd go down to Wal*Mart, buy a small epoxy
kit, two little tubes, one of resin, one of
catalyst, for a couple bucks.
I use JB Weld on the Warp Drive. I have used
epoxy on wooden props, the baking soda super glue
process. They all work well.
A $20.00 kit might be an overkill for a nick or
two. :-)
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Tim,
Polyester resin requires a small amount of methyl ethyl ketone
peroxide catylyst. Epoxy resin is a two part mixture. Usually two equal
parts. Both are used with some type of fabric enforcement. Usually fibreglass.
Hope this helps
Ed (in Houston)
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