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1. 12:10 AM - Re: Vamoose On-Going (Larry Bourne)
2. 01:27 AM - Re: prop repair/protection (Vincehallam@aol.com)
3. 03:23 AM - Re: Oil injection (Dave Rains)
4. 07:11 AM - Re:Facet pump priming (Hans vanAlphen)
5. 07:44 AM - Re: Aileron and flap hinges (CaptainRon)
6. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: prop repair/protection (jerb)
7. 08:12 AM - Arrived in FLA and it's another world ()
8. 08:18 AM - kolb? (HillStw@aol.com)
9. 08:24 AM - Re: Arrived in FLA and it's another world (John Hauck)
10. 10:41 AM - Re: Ivo prop repair (Timandjan@aol.com)
11. 01:00 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair ()
12. 01:26 PM - Re: kolb? (Bruce McElhoe)
13. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: prop repair/protection (Richard Swiderski)
14. 03:22 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (jerb)
15. 03:31 PM - Prop Nicks (Lawrence M. Rice)
16. 05:02 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (Larry Bourne)
17. 05:03 PM - Re: The Stork (Richard Swiderski)
18. 05:14 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (John Hauck)
19. 07:05 PM - Re: Ivo prop repair (SGreenpg@aol.com)
20. 07:20 PM - Re: Facet Pump (Jim and Phyllis Hefner)
21. 08:59 PM - Re: Facet Pump (possums)
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| Subject: | Re: Arrived in FLA and it's another world |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> A fellow who has a new house with hangar
> just across from where my trailer is parked has just finished a Mark
> III XTRA with VW power. It's been flown one time and he pranged it
> just a little on the first landing.
> Hauck, come on down and we can fly someplace together.
> Gene Ledbetter
Hi Gene/Gents:
Thanks for the invite. I will fly down soon as I
can make some arrangements. I need a good dose of
fried mullet, shrimp, and oysters. Best seafood
in the world at Panacea, Florida, and the
surrounding area. Growing up in Tallahassee,
Florida, spoils one for eating seafood in other
parts of the world. Also a great place to fly.
Beautiful beaches, islands, wildlife, and food.
The Mark III Extra? Is that the one the gentleman
elected to cover with sheet metal rather than
fabric? He did elect to cover the wings and
flying surfaces in fabric, didn't he?
Got to tie up some loose ends here at hauck's
holler, then I'll be on my way south for a few
days.
Need your St Teresa phone number. I have Duane's.
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
Ivo said that the Polyester resin is preferred, epoxy is second and things
like JP weld is third. Polyester is the first because they said it's the
hardest.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <bweber2@earthlink.net>
I have used the super glue/baking soda solution for a small nick on a
Powerfin. Works fine. When I was doing RC aircraft, there was a product called
micro-balloons. It was extremely light and mixed with epoxy to fill gaps. It
was also easy to sand for shaping after it dried. Don't know if it is still
available or it may be under a different name now.
Bill
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce McElhoe" <mcelhoe@cvip.net>
> Hello:
> I am new to the list, and looking for info.
> I fly an RV, and really like a light, responsive control system. Am
> interested in a light, low, slow plane, and think maybe Kolb is a good
> choice, but have never flown in one.
Jimmy,
I have been flying my Long-EZ for the past six years, and I too like
responsive controls. I recently completed a FireFly and have about 4 hours
on it. I'm sure there are a lot of pilots in this group with far more hours
and far more authoritative opinions about their Kolb, but here's mine....
You will like the responsiveness of the FireFly. Controls are quick and
just what you would expect. Because it can fly so slowly and turn so
tightly, there is a flight regime that is new to us.....with soft controls
in slow flight and a tendency to overbank in a very steep turn (The inside
wing is barely moving!) I find this new regime to be a lot of fun.
>
> Which light plane is most responsive?
>
Jimmy, I can't answer that one....I've flown only the FireFly.
> Which Kolb model is best for a very short strip? Is a 500 -600 foot strip
> practical?
When I get a little better with short-field landings, I'm sure 500-600 feet
would be plenty for the FireFly. The Rotax 447 gives that little plane a
lot of power, and it leaps right off the ground in about 150 feet. My
landings still take a lot more...but I expect better.
Am looking at the Firefly or Firestar. Single seat is ok, or if
> two seat, I prefer tandem seating.
> How does the required building time compare between these two?
>
> What engine has proven best from standpoint of performance and
reliability?
>
> It is probably apparent that I come from the world of Lycoming and do not
> know the Rotax world at all, but would appreciate your advice.
>
>
> Thanks.
> Jimmy
> hillstw@aol.com
> (Oklahoma)
I'll have to leave the rest of your questions for others.
Regards,
Bruce McElhoe FireFly #88
Reedley, Calif.
>
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| Subject: | Re: prop repair/protection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Vince,
I used stainless steel tape from NAPA on a wood prop & it worked fine.
You can cut it with scissors & also notch it if you are following a curve.
Richard Swiderski
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Vincehallam@aol.com
>
> Im about to run a wooden one piece two blader at 6000 rpm on my kids
> hovercraft [lots of dirt in the air].Anybody got a contact or
specification
> /part number for a good prop tape ?? we used to use it on rolls royce
turbo
> props in the far east,and I thought it was a bit mickey mouse then, but
> now..........
> Vnz
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
What material is the prop actually made of?
That could significantly impact the preference of one over the other for
strength and bonding.
jerb
At 01:40 PM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
>
>Ivo said that the Polyester resin is preferred, epoxy is second and things
>like JP weld is third. Polyester is the first because they said it's the
>hardest.
>
>Tim
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Lawrence M. Rice" <tailwind5@juno.com>
If you haven't used it before, remember to be very careful with MEK. It's
nasty stuff. One drop in the eye and it's gone.
Larry the MicroMong guy
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Personally, I'm an epoxy fan for most everything, but if Ivo built the prop,
and Ivo says "Use Polyester;" then I'd use polyester. For just a bit of it,
try taking your prop to a body shop. Bondo is polyester, and it can be
colored to match. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ivo prop repair
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
>
> Ivo said that the Polyester resin is preferred, epoxy is second and things
> like JP weld is third. Polyester is the first because they said it's the
> hardest.
>
> Tim
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Peter,
Thanks for the feedback. I sold the US to a guy in Jacksonville FL who
never flew it. I believe he sold it to Bob. I met him briefly at S & F.
Definitely say hello for me if you see him. You have a great club going on
down there. ...Richard Swiderski
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: The Stork
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
>
> Hi Richard - Peter here. I took that photo last Sunday. I run the LAFA
> (Light Aircraft Flyers Association) web site in Miami.
>
> Your old flame is now owned by Bob Musgrove whom we affectionately call
> Cap'n Bob in our club. He is a retired 747 pilot, our club mentor, and
> with about 26,000 hours of flying experience, a source of very valuable
> information and insight.
>
> Let me assure you that your ex is in very capable hands. Bob does
> things with that plane that I've never seen anybody else do, yet he's as
> quiet and unassuming a person as you could ever hope to meet.
>
> You will see a lot more photos of him and your (his) Kolb on the photo
> pages of our club's web site http://www.lafa.com/PhotosEvents.htm
>
> I also wrote a brief summary about our little escapade on Sunday here:
> http://www.lafa.com/RobertIsHere.htm (which includes the photo that John
> sent you).
>
> Did you sell your plane to Bob directly? Or did somebody else own her
> in-between?
>
> I'm meeting with him at the airport on Wednesday. He isn't into
> computers, but if you have a message for him, I'll be glad to pass it
> on.
>
> Peter
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Swiderski
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Stork
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
> <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
> Hey John,
>
> thats' quite a piece of history you found! Its definitely my old bird .
> It
> just doesn't seem right that she is making an other pilot as happy as
> she
> made me . I think the feeling is called jealousy. I guess I'll just
> not
> look at her & see iff that helps.
> John, where is this picture taken? Is he an active pilot? I lost
> track
> of him, Last I heard he was down miami way. Sentimental Richard
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> >
> > Richard S/Gents:
> >
> > Isn't this your old Ultrastar? The one I
> > affectionately refer to as the Stork? Sure looks
> > like it. :-)
> >
> > http://lafa.com/Photos/Robert%20is%20Here/006.jpg
> >
> > john h
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> What material is the prop actually made of?
> That could significantly impact the preference of one over the other for
> strength and bonding.
> jerb
jerb/Gents:
You all ever find out how big that ding is in the
IVO? Can you put your fist in it, or are you
going to have to glue a blade back together that
got broken in half? Or is it a little ding that
would take a drop or two of something to fill up?
Ya'll should have gotten this prop repair figured
out by now. Must be a really big project. :-)
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Ivo prop repair |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com
In a message dated 1/7/03 1:42:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Timandjan@aol.com
writes:
> Ivo said that the Polyester resin is preferred, epoxy is second and things
> like JP weld is third. Polyester is the first because they said it's the
> hardest.
>
> Tim
>
Tim,
My advice is to do whatever Ivo recommends. You should be able to get
polyester resin with hardener at the local auto parts store. It should be
finishing resin which allows the surface to dry tack free. I would not use
laminating resin, it stays tacky.
Here is an address to a site that has a lot of info about the different
resins and reinforcements. <A HREF="http://www.fibreglast.com">http://www.fibreglast.com
Steven Green
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim and Phyllis Hefner" <hefners_tucson@hotmail.com>
Hi John, I think I met you at Copperstate in Oct. I assumeyou live in San Diego
and owna yellow Firestar ? I own the yellow/green trimmed Firefly. We chatted
a few times at CuState. Interestingly enough, I recently completed doing the
same thing onmy FF. I bought the 2.5-4.5 PSI Facet pump and installed it in parallel
with my pulse pump. My pump is mounted about 1/2 way down the level of
my tank and I draw off the top of the tank. I put a fuel shut-off valve right
after where I tee'd the line off to the new pump, which I close after I fly to
prevent syphoning of fuel and air in the elec pump circuit, like I get in the
pulse pump part of the circuit.Do you get air in the lines ofyour pulse pump
circuit like I doafter a few days of downtime? If so, you will need to get that
air out and the Facet won't helpdo thatand I'm not sure the pulse pump can self
prime if there is enough air in the loop - onlya primer bulb can help that.
Once the Facet loop primes the carb, the floats are full and you won't be able
to get the air out of the pulse pump loop, even with a primer bulb... I found
that out the hard way. You might want to try putting ashut-off valvein the
pulse pump loop (assume you have no primer bulb and bypass loop with the new setup)to
keep it from draining back to the tank, creating air in that part of theloop
- the opposite of what I do, not having a battery to run the Facet with
until the plane is running. With the shut-off valve open, I use the primer bulb
a squeeze or two to make sure the facet loop is primed up to the T before the
carb, then I close the shut-off valve, isolating the facet loop and then hit
the primer bulb 4-5 times to get the air out of thepulse pumploop and fill the
carb bowl and close the float valve.Once I start the engine, I flip on the
facetswitch so they are both operating in parallel during flight.
I havehad acouple cases of engine running fine on start-up, good warming up, I
get in, strap in and get ready to taxi, only to have the engine sputter and die
when I try to give it throttle, which it never did before adding the new pump
loop.It usually restarts without problem anddoesn'thesitates again. I suspect
some air is still somewhere in one of the loops and ends up in the carb after
a little run time, causing it to die. Just a choke restarts it and no repriming
is needed, soI'm not real sure what is going on yet, so I have been doing
some extra warm-upto see if it isgonna sputter. I pulled the pulse line off the
pulse pump to make sure the Facet had enough pressure to run the 447 with no
pulse pump operating. Ran it at 3000 rpm5+ minutes to make sure it wasn't running
on fuel in the bowl and everything was fine. I then flipped the Facet switch
off and in about a minute, the engine died. I've made 2 100+ mile flights
in the past 3 wks (140miles last Sat) and everything was fine with the setup once
warmed-up. The lowest pressure pump works fine on the 447. Think you have
a dual carb 503 if I remember right, but that pressure should work for dual carbs
as well.
Good luck getting the priming problem fixed. Hope to see you again at Copperstate
next year.
If anyone else on thelisthas experienced what I described during warm-up after
installing a parallel electric pump loopand figured out what the cause was and
implemented a fix, please let me know.... gives me an uneasy feeling when I go
out there for the first take-off...Once the rpm's are up, there is not hesitation...
just hesitates to respond to throttle from idle and then dies, which
it never used to do.
Jim Hefner
FF022, Tucson, AZ
From: "Wood, John T." <WOODJT@SPAWAR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Facet Pump
-- Kolb-List message posted by: "Wood, John T." <WOODJT@SPAWAR.NAVY.MIL>
Thanks for the responses to my Facet problem. I have tried the pump both
above and below the tank and it still did not work. That is what prompted me
to seek advise from the experts. Based on your responses it seems that I
might have a bad pump. I purchaed the lowest pressure pump. Maybe I need
more pressure to overcome the air in the lines?
John Wood
Firestar N670JW
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 08:19 PM 1/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim and Phyllis Hefner"
><hefners_tucson@hotmail.com>
>
>Hi John, I think I met you at Copperstate in Oct. I assumeyou live in San
>Diego and owna yellow Firestar ? I own the yellow/green trimmed Firefly.
>We chatted a few times at CuState. Interestingly enough, I recently
>completed doing the same thing onmy FF. I bought the 2.5-4.5 PSI Facet
>pump and installed it in parallel with my pulse
>pump.===================================================================
I'll be darn if I didn't miss the whole "Facet Pump" thing altogether.
Been driving these flying lawn chairs since 1983 - been thru the Cyhuuuna -
ouchh!,
Rotax 377, 447, and now the 503 thing and still have not had a pulse
pump fail yet - 2,000 hours + or -. I know it happens, guess I should
get with the whole redundant /"Spaceshuttle/system".
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