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1. 04:53 AM - Re: Stuff 4 sale (Richard Pike)
2. 06:14 AM - GPL ....? (Mike Pierzina)
3. 06:28 AM - Former starter postings (Timandjan@aol.com)
4. 06:33 AM - Re: GPL ....? (John Cooley)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Possible Fiarstar II sale (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
6. 07:27 AM - Re: Gasoline (ZepRep251@aol.com)
7. 12:31 PM - Cleaning Lexan (Bill Vincent)
8. 02:17 PM - Fuel LInes (Larry Bourne)
9. 02:17 PM - Re: Cleaning Lexan (Paul Petty)
10. 03:58 PM - Re: Cleaning Lexan (ZepRep251@aol.com)
11. 05:53 PM - Re: Gasoline (WillUribe@aol.com)
12. 08:44 PM - Re: GPL ....? (Christopher Armstrong)
13. 11:54 PM - Re: Gasoline (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Stuff 4 sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@preferred.com>
Bill, let me know if you sell those items, otherwise I will put the picture
and ad in the For Sale section of our EAA chapter newsletter which will
come out on the 24th of Jan.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 02:24 AM 1/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: BILLBEAM@aol.com
>
>
>Hi gang,
>
>Switched my FireStar instruments to EIS. Have a deal on the
>conventional gages taken out. They are all in good condition and were
>working when we took them out. They include: CHT, EGT, Compass,
>100 MPH ASI, RPM, VSI, ALT, and one old 140 MPH ASI. I had a Rotax 503.
>
>Catalogue is somewhere around $874. I'll take $390 for all of it. I will even
>pay the shipping cost.
>
>Picture (poor) available by clicking <A
>HREF="http://www.pixhost.com/pixb/billbeam/instruments.jpeg">
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixb/billbeam/instruments.jpeg
>
>308 Jessamine Station Road
>Wilmore, Kentucky 40390
>Phone: 859-858-3168
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
_______HI, Thanks for the reply, I'm not familiar with "GPL" ...is that the company?
Will I still be able to mount the "pull start" ? What is the ballpark price ?
I'll be digging thru some of my magazines.....Gotta Fly...Mike
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
Mike,
You got the right combo... just ad a GPL starter (in the
back of all
popular magazines).
Many of us have been flying that combination ... B box +
Ivo + GPL on a 503!
Jon
near Green Bay (COLD!)
www.joncroke.com
www.kolbpilot.com
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
> I just bought my 503 w/"b" box and 66'
IVO ( still in
box )
> It sounds like I should have went for the electric start.......
> What would it take to do that.... can I still
use the "B" box ?
> Gotta Fly...
>
Mike in
MN FSII, Fabric cage stage
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| Subject: | Former starter postings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
I deleted the recent postings from the person looking for a 503 starter. If
interested, please contact me off list, I have a new Rotax starter from
another project I would sell.
Please contact me off list.
timandjan@aol.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hi Mike / Gang,
Yes that is the company name. GPL Electric Starters, Inc. Weight is said to
be 10 lbs and you can retain your pull start. The first Twinstar Mark II
that I owned had a GPL starter on it without the pull start. It worked
great. Basic kit price is 460 dollars and the deluxe kit is 525 dollars. Not
sure of all the differences between the two kits, but I believe the deluxe
kit contains the solenoid, wiring etc. The motor on the starter is mounted
perpendicular to the engine instead of inline. They advertise in Ultralight
Flying Magazine all the time.
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Later,
John Cooley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: GPL ....?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> _______HI, Thanks for the reply, I'm not familiar with "GPL" ...is that
the company?
> Will I still be able to mount the "pull start" ? What is the ballpark
price ?
> I'll be digging thru some of my magazines.....Gotta Fly...Mike
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke"
<Jon@joncroke.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> You got the right combo... just ad a GPL starter
(in the back of all
> popular magazines).
> Many of us have been flying that combination ... B
box + Ivo + GPL on a 503!
>
> Jon
> near Green Bay (COLD!)
>
> www.joncroke.com
> www.kolbpilot.com
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina"
<planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > I just bought my 503 w/"b" box
and 66' IVO ( still in
> box )
> > It sounds like I should have went for the
electric start.......
> > What would it take to do that.... can I
still use the "B" box ?
> >
Gotta Fly...
> >
Mike in
> MN FSII, Fabric cage stage
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Possible Fiarstar II sale |
message of Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:56:06 -0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
'Morning guys. I've thought about this for a little while
now....for several reasons I won't get into just yet. Anyway, here it
is:
1997 FS II, bought from Dennis and the Old Kolb.
White powder-coated fuselage, large wheels with mechanical heel brakes,
polished aluminum streamlined lift struts, polished gear legs, short
windshield, naugahyde seat and back, articulating rudder pedal surfaces,
EIS,
BRS 750 cannister, 4 point seat belts, altimiter, 0-80 ASI, compass,
Hobbs, lexan gap seal, 503 DCDI w/ "C" box and 3.47 gears (recoil start,
direct mix) purchased in 2000 new from Lockwood.
Ground adjustable 68" 3 bladed Powerfin "F" prop and polished
aluminum 2 3/4" extension,
finished in Glacier white trimmed with Christen Eagle blue polytone.
Three cross-coats of silver poly spray underneath for UV block. You can
read a reflected newspaper in the gloss (thanks to Jim and Dondi).
Plane is a FS II but with only one seat installed and has two
standard 5 gallon fuel tanks with only one installed.
All aluminum structure was conversion coated with PPG corrosion
proofing. Wing-tip reinforcing kit was also installed when wing was
built and has factory pre-built ribs. Everything works and plane has
flown in ground effect. Engine broken in by Rotax schedule and has had
the heads re-torqued with a total engine run time of 3.3 hours. Prop
pitch needs flattened about a degree to get the RPMS up to
6200 static.
Also going with the plane is a 24 ft. enclosed trailer. Tandem
torsion axles with one having electric brakes. Steel siding, aluminum
roof, ramp door in the rear and a small portal door in the front.
Trailer is weather tight and is licensed.....legally lighted, and has
aluminum fenders. Trailer brakes need wired to complete.
Weighs around 17-1800 pounds and has a tongue weight of about 100
pounds. 2" x 4" rectangular main frame with 1" square tubing for
studding on 24" centers. Needs fuselage support for the FS inside to
secure the plane while transporting.
Pictures of both avaiable via USPS.
Both plane and trailer were built here in WV by yours truly.....plane
took 900 plus hours and the trailer..... all summer!!
Drive away with both for $16000 firm.
Reasons for the possible sale are several....mainly, I very much need to
prioritize, and cash from the sale would allow this. Things have
changed in my life and times a- wastin'.....
I may be away from the WEBTV for a couple days so......
Hllbilly Mike in West Virginia
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
Bruce. I used only 100LL for the first 2 years--100 Hrs.I,m oil-injected and
other than a white lead bloom on the plugs and 30-40 degree drop in exhaust
temp.I can't tell much difference from 91 octane car gas.You might be able to
remove the alchol from fuel by adding a pint of water to the five gal
container of gas ,shaking it up and let it stand a few minutes then separate
the gas and water.The alchol will stay with the water
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hello Kolb Flyers
For the last couple of years I have been using Pledge Smear Free in the
spray can to clean my Lexan and it had been doing an excellent job.
What I really like about it is that it made the Lexan nice and clear and
was easy to use.
Today I went to buy another can and I found out they changed the
formula, so I bought a can anyway and tried it out...it does not work.
Is there anything else available to clean the Lexan that is inexpensive
and easy to use, even in cold weather.
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Once again, from the Great Procrastinator, come words of belated wisdom.........................(??)
Vamoose has been sitting for a year +, since the re-drive
broke just over a year ago, and about 3 months of that was outside in the
Palm Springs summer sun, tho' the engine was covered with a light tarp. Then
I brought it onto the porch while I was on vacation, etc., and there it's sat
ever since. Yesterday, I finished re-assembling the re-drive, and installed
it, put in the new battery, etc. Today, Vamoose migrated out to the driveway
for a good bath, (nice to have a porch back, too) and look-over. Fine, sun's
shining, neighbors are applauding........................ Disconnected the fuel
return line, stuck it into a jug, and turned on #1 fuel pump to begin flushing
the system. Yes...............Lar left the gas in it. 91 octane unleaded
mogas. It stinks, too. No need for strong comments...............I'm doing
plenty of that to myself, but that's not the reason for this "Heads-Up." When
I built this thing, I used the "imitation" braided fuel line, cause I couldn't
(wouldn't ??) afford the "real" stuff from Earl's or Holley, or wherever.
This is black fuel line inside a loose braided metal (stainless ??) sheath, and
pushes onto a barb inside an end fitting. A partially concealed hose clamp
holds it on. DON'T BUY IT ! ! ! Within a few seconds of turning on the fuel
pump - remember, these are high pressure fuel injection pumps - I was watching
the fuel return line in the jug, and heard the darndest noise. Raining
?? Nah...........sky is clear blue, and temps are 70 deg. Looked up, and fuel
was spraying from all over the place. It would appear that those chintzy, cheap
fuel lines disintegrated inside the braided sheaths. What A MESS ! ! !
And what a smell. You can see several pics of those lines on "Engine & Redrive"
in the "Building Vamoose" section of my website. Soooooo....................time
to shower up & go to work now, and looking eagerly (??) forward to replacing
all those hoses tomorrow morning. Had hoped for engine start today. Oh
well. Boy..............Lar's a happy camper this afternoon. Hope this
helps someone else avoid the same mess. Not Gittin' 'er Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning Lexan |
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USER_IN_WHITELIST)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Bill, Try this. I have been using these for years and the work great on
lexan and will remove bugs and will not scratch. Note, don't let the wife
get a hold of it or you will have to buy more.....
http://magicmicrocloth.com/
pp.....
======================================================================
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning Lexan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
Bill,On GA plexiglas we used Kleer,a milky liquid cleaner and very mild
polish containing alcohol, I believe, from the fragrance in confinded
spaces.I used it Friday on the lexan on the firestar.It is anti-static as
well.Any airport pilot shop should have it or get online to Sporty's pilot
shop.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
All us Rotax users in El Paso purchase the auto gas at the airport, it is
rated at 87 octane. The airport can buy the auto fuel with no additives but
it cost more....You would think if it has no extras it should cost less.
It's a lot easy to taxi up to the pumps and fuel up then having to pickup
them heavy gas jugs. The extra cost is worth saving my back.
Maybe your airport can buy the auto fuel without the additives. Our airport
also sells the gas to off road vehicles, ATVs and dirt bikes.
I have been told the petroleum companies add additives to get a higher octane
ratings.
NTSB Identification: ANC03CA009
accident occurred Friday, November 01, 2002 at Chugiak, AK
Aircraft:Arima Kolb Fire Star II, registration: N8199
Injuries: 1 Uninjured.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors.
Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been
completed.
On November 1, 2002, about 1345 Alaska standard time, a wheel-equipped
experimental homebuilt Arima Kolb Fire Star II airplane, N8199, sustained
substantial damage when it struck trees during a forced landing after takeoff
from the Birchwood Airport, Chugiak, Alaska. The airplane was being operated
as a visual flight rules (VFR) local area personal flight under Title 14, CFR
Part 91, when the accident occurred. The airplane was operated by the pilot.
The solo certificated private pilot was not injured. Visual meteorological
conditions prevailed. The flight originated at the Birchwood Airport, about
1300.
During a telephone conversation with the National Transportation Safety Board
(NTSB) investigator-in-charge on November 1, the pilot reported that the
accident airplane had been stored outside, and had not been utilized within
the last two years. He added that just prior to the accident, he had
accomplished two successful touch-and-go landings on runway 19R. He said that
during the third touch-and-go landing roll, he added power for another
takeoff. As the airplane climbed to about 50 feet above the runway, he said
the engine, a Rotax 503, suddenly lost significant power, and he selected a
forced landing area ahead of the airplane. During the forced landing, the
airplane collided with several trees. The airplane sustained substantial
damage to the wings, fuselage, and empennage.
On November 1, a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) operations inspector,
Anchorage Flight Standards District Office, traveled to the accident airport
to inspect the airplane. The inspector reported that during a postaccident
inspection, both carburetor float bowls were found to contain murky, silty,
and rust-colored fuel.
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce McElhoe" <mcelhoe@cvip.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Gasoline
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce McElhoe" <mcelhoe@cvip.net>
>
> Hello All...
>
> What type of gasoline are you using in your Rotax engine?=A0 I have been using
> auto gas that meets the requirements set forth in my Rotax manual; namely,
a
> minimum Research Octane Rating of 90 and conformance with ASTM D4814.
>
> I checked with an expert at Chevron and found that their unleaded regular
> gas meets Rotax requirements.=A0 Now, here's the problem.....under federal
> mandate, all the refiners in California will soon be adding ethanol to
> gasoline.=A0 They already adding ethanol in Southern California.=A0 So, auto
gas
> will no longer meet ASTM D4814 (which allows only one percent alcohol).
>
> My Rotax operating manual discourages using 100LL avgas.=A0 They do allow=20it
> only when unleaded fuel is not available.=A0 So, I'm interested in hearing
> from you mid-westerners that have already dealt with alcohol in their auto
> gas.=A0 Is leaded 100LL avgas giving you any problems?=A0 Is anyone continuing
> to use auto gas with alcohol?
>
> Regards
>
> Bruce McElhoe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FireFly #88
> Reedley, Calif.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net>
http://www.recreationalmobility.com/Product/Engines/Engine_Accessories/GPL/G
PL_Starters.asp
one of several sources for the gpl starters I found using www.google.com.
Do you guys use web searches to answer your questions? They are usually
very productive.
topher
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Not sure about Texas, but I'd assume they follow the same general track as
California, Idaho, Washington, and Saskatchewan, that I know
of..................gas used for off-road should be *much* cheaper, 'cause
there's no road tax on it. They generally dye it a distinctive color to
keep people honest. (??) Same, same with diesel. Farmers & commercial
fishermen are the main beneficiaries. Then, too, it depends on where
they're buying it, and what kind of deal they can get. Lotsa politics.
Could be a humongous mark up, too................they kinda gotcha, there at
the airport. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> All us Rotax users in El Paso purchase the auto gas at the airport, it is
> rated at 87 octane. The airport can buy the auto fuel with no additives
but
> it cost more....You would think if it has no extras it should cost less.
> It's a lot easy to taxi up to the pumps and fuel up then having to pickup
> them heavy gas jugs. The extra cost is worth saving my back.
> Maybe your airport can buy the auto fuel without the additives. Our
airport
> also sells the gas to off road vehicles, ATVs and dirt bikes.
> I have been told the petroleum companies add additives to get a higher
octane
> ratings.
>
>
> NTSB Identification: ANC03CA009
>
> accident occurred Friday, November 01, 2002 at Chugiak, AK
> Aircraft:Arima Kolb Fire Star II, registration: N8199
> Injuries: 1 Uninjured.
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